Hi,
I got an update notification. When I opened Apper, it had an updae for software management. But when I try and install the update I get the following error message :“The package libzypp is essential to correct operation and cannot be removed using this tool”.
Now i see that Apper notification sits in my taskbar and due to this Yast doesnt launch as it says “Packagekit” is running.
Is there a way to install this update or remove it from the list of updaes?
Thanks,
Prad
On 25/02/12 07:56, Prad viking wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I got an update notification. When I opened Apper, it had an updae for
> software management. But when I try and install the update I get the
> following error message :“The package libzypp is essential to correct
> operation and cannot be removed using this tool”.
>
> Now i see that Apper notification sits in my taskbar and due to this
> Yast doesnt launch as it says “Packagekit” is running.
>
> Is there a way to install this update or remove it from the list of
> updaes?
>
> Thanks,
> Prad
>
>
Don’t use Apper
Configure it not to check for updates
Use your terminal and run this
su -
zypper patch
When it’s done, run it again
and then
zypper up
On 2012-02-25 08:56, Prad viking wrote:
> I got an update notification. When I opened Apper,
We don’t use apper. Broken.
–
Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)
I haven’t seen that, because I disable Apper.
I would call that a bug. It should be reported to the bugzilla.
To solve your immediate problem - if you are using KDE, then you can disable apper startup. Go into “Personal Settings” –> “Startup and Shutdown” –> “Service Manager”. In the bottom window, uncheck “Apper Monitor”. Then logout and log back in, and apper should not be running. I’m not a Gnome user, but there’s probably also a way to disable apper startup in Gnome.
With apper not running, yast online updates should handle things. In my case, it showed a bunch of updates, with only the zypper update checked. I told it to continue. It installed that update. Then it showed me the rest of the updates, which I then installed.
My personal way of handling updates: I disabled apper startup, as described above. I periodically run yast online update (typically around twice a week). Then I manually start apper (from the KDE menus) to check for other updates, since most of the packman updates don’t show up with yast online update. An alternative for those other updates is to run “zypper up” from a root command line.
I agree with the other responders, in that I don’t like apper and find running it automatically will cause more problems than it solves.
su -
zypper patch
Hi,
I ran the above code, but I am getting the following error while update process.
linux-o6mf:/home/viking # zypper patch
Loading repository data…
Reading installed packages…
Resolving package dependencies…
The following NEW patch is going to be installed:
openSUSE-2012-106
The following package is going to be REMOVED:
libzypp
The following packages are going to be upgraded:
python-satsolver zypper zypper-log
“3 packages to upgrade, 1 to remove.
Overall download size: 1.1 MiB. After the operation, 6.9 MiB will be freed.
Continue? [y/n/?] (y): y
Retrieving package python-satsolver-0.44.5-2.3.2.x86_64 (1/3), 242.0 KiB (731.0 KiB unpacked)
Retrieving: python-satsolver-0.44.5-2.3.2.x86_64.rpm [done (54.6 KiB/s)]
Retrieving package zypper-1.6.21-5.14.1.x86_64 (2/3), 884.0 KiB (4.9 MiB unpacked)
Retrieving: zypper-1.6.21-5.14.1.x86_64.rpm [done (65.5 KiB/s)]
Retrieving package zypper-log-1.6.21-5.14.1.noarch (3/3), 25.0 KiB (6.0 KiB unpacked)
Retrieving: zypper-log-1.6.21-5.14.1.noarch.rpm [done (0 B/s)]
Removing libzypp-10.3.5-1.7.1 [error]
Removal of (84824)libzypp-10.3.5-1.7.1.x86_64(@System) failed:
Error: Subprocess failed. Error: RPM failed: error: package libzypp-10.3.5-1.7.1.x86_64 is not installed”
On 02/26/2012 06:16 PM, Prad viking wrote:
> Code:
> --------------------
> su -
> zypper patch
> --------------------
run it again and i guess it will all be swell…
–
DD http://tinyurl.com/DD-Caveat
What does DistroWatch write about YOU?: http://tinyurl.com/SUSEonDW
Still stuck with the same thing.
I tried installing the missing libzypp file but it seems there is a newer version on my system.
So basically zypper/apper are trying to update libzypp(libzypp-10.3.5-1.7.1.x86_64.rpm) but the new version is causing problems(libzypp-10.3.7-1.9.4.x86_64.rpm).
Is there a way to remove the higher version and install the lower version so that my updaes go through?
On 02/26/2012 07:56 PM, Prad viking wrote:
>
> I tried installing the missing libzypp file but it seems there is a
> newer version on my system.
please show us the terminal input/output from
zypper lr -d
copy/paste the in/output back to this thread using the instructions
here: http://goo.gl/i3wnr
So basically zypper/apper are trying to update
you have been told three times in this thread to not use apper, it is
broken…so, how can it be trying to do anything?
disable apper…i can only guess how to do that: try right clicking on
the icon and from the popup menu which results see if there is not
something where you can allow, disallow or select:
-updates
-notifications of pending update
-startup at boot
-shutdown
following that run these commands
su -
rpmdb --rebuilddb
zypper clean --all
zypper ref
zypper patch
> libzypp(libzypp-10.3.5-1.7.1.x86_64.rpm) but the new version is causing
> problems(libzypp-10.3.7-1.9.4.x86_64.rpm).
> Is there a way to remove the higher version and install the lower
> version so that my updaes go through?
first, lets see what happens once apper is out of the picture (for sure
and for good) and the rpm database has been rebuilt…
so, let us hear how it goes…and, be patient that rpm rebuild may take
some time…give it plenty
–
DD http://tinyurl.com/DD-Caveat
What does DistroWatch write about YOU?: http://tinyurl.com/SUSEonDW
On 2012-02-26 19:56, Prad viking wrote:
> So basically zypper/apper are trying to update
> libzypp(libzypp-10.3.5-1.7.1.x86_64.rpm) but the new version is causing
> problems(libzypp-10.3.7-1.9.4.x86_64.rpm).
First: remove apper. I don’t want to hear any problems about it, because
you are not using it, understood?
Then. The current version is indeed libzypp-10.3.7-1.9.4.x86_64, so I have
to wonder what repos you have active that it wants to downgrade.
So show us the list of repos, as Denver said.
–
Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)
Here is the terminal output for zypper lr -d
linux-o6mf:/home/viking # zypper lr -d
# | Alias | Name | Enabled | Refresh | Priority | Type | URI | Service
---+-----------------------------------+-----------------------------------------+---------+---------+----------+----------+---------------------------------------------------------------------------+--------
1 | ATI/AMD-FGLRX | ATI/AMD-FGLRX | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | http://geeko.ioda.net/mirror/ati/openSUSE_12.1/ |
2 | PK_TMP_DIR | PK_TMP_DIR | Yes | Yes | 99 | plaindir | dir:///var/tmp/TmpDir.aeKedx |
3 | Packman Repository | Packman Repository | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | http://packman.inode.at/suse/12.1/ |
4 | download.opensuse.org-Extra | openSUSE BuildService - KDE:Extra | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Extra/openSUSE_12.1/ |
5 | download.opensuse.org-UpdatedApps | openSUSE BuildService - KDE:UpdatedApps | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/UpdatedApps/openSUSE_12.1/ |
6 | download.opensuse.org-games | openSUSE BuildService - Games | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/games/openSUSE_12.1/ |
7 | download.opensuse.org-mozilla | openSUSE BuildService - Mozilla | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/mozilla/openSUSE_12.1/ |
8 | download.opensuse.org-non-oss | Main Repository (NON-OSS) | Yes | Yes | 99 | yast2 | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/12.1/repo/non-oss/ |
9 | download.opensuse.org-non-oss_1 | openSUSE-12.1-Non-Oss | Yes | Yes | 99 | yast2 | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/12.1/repo/non-oss |
10 | download.opensuse.org-oss | Main Repository (OSS) | Yes | Yes | 99 | yast2 | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/12.1/repo/oss/ |
11 | download.opensuse.org-oss_1 | openSUSE-12.1-Oss | Yes | Yes | 99 | yast2 | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/12.1/repo/oss |
12 | download.opensuse.org-oss_2 | Main Repository (Sources) | Yes | Yes | 99 | yast2 | http://download.opensuse.org/source/distribution/12.1/repo/oss/ |
13 | download.opensuse.org-update | Main Update Repository | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/update/12.1/ |
14 | google-chrome | google-chrome | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/rpm/stable/x86_64 |
15 | openSUSE_Factory | openSUSE_Factory | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/graphics/openSUSE_Factory/ |
16 | opensuse-guide.org-repo | libdvdcss repository | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | http://opensuse-guide.org/repo/12.1/ |
17 | packman.inode.at-suse | Packman Repository | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | http://packman.inode.at/suse/12.1/ |
18 | repo-debug | openSUSE-12.1-Debug | No | Yes | 99 | NONE | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/distribution/12.1/repo/oss/ |
19 | repo-debug-update | openSUSE-12.1-Update-Debug | No | Yes | 99 | NONE | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/update/12.1/ |
20 | repo-non-oss | openSUSE-12.1-Non-Oss | Yes | Yes | 99 | yast2 | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/12.1/repo/non-oss/ |
21 | repo-oss | openSUSE-12.1-Oss | Yes | Yes | 99 | yast2 | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/12.1/repo/oss/ |
22 | repo-source | openSUSE-12.1-Source | No | Yes | 99 | NONE | http://download.opensuse.org/source/distribution/12.1/repo/oss/ |
23 | repo-update | openSUSE-12.1-Update | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/update/12.1/
copy/paste the in/output back to this thread using the instructions
here: Posting in Code Tags - A Guide
So basically zypper/apper are trying to update
you have been told three times in this thread to not use apper, it is
broken…so, how can it be trying to do anything?
disable apper…i can only guess how to do that: try right clicking on
the icon and from the popup menu which results see if there is not
something where you can allow, disallow or select:
-updates
-notifications of pending update
-startup at boot
-shutdown
following that run these commands
su -
rpmdb --rebuilddb
zypper clean --all
zypper ref
zypper patch
after Zypper patch I get the following:
linux-o6mf:~ # zypper patch
Loading repository data...
Reading installed packages...
Resolving package dependencies...
The following NEW packages are going to be installed:
libpython2_7-1_0-32bit libtalloc2-32bit libtdb1-32bit samba-client-32bit
The following NEW patches are going to be installed:
openSUSE-2012-100 openSUSE-2012-101 openSUSE-2012-104 openSUSE-2012-108
openSUSE-2012-109 openSUSE-2012-115 openSUSE-2012-120 openSUSE-2012-121
openSUSE-2012-125 openSUSE-2012-126 openSUSE-2012-98 openSUSE-2012-99
The following packages are going to be upgraded:
MozillaFirefox MozillaFirefox-translations-common aaa_base aaa_base-extras autofs
flash-player flash-player-kde4 grub libgnutls28 libldb1 libopenssl1_0_0
libsmbclient0 libtalloc2 libtdb1 libtevent0 libwbclient0 libxslt-devel libxslt1
openssl opensuse-manuals_en oxygen-gtk pm-utils pm-utils-ndiswrapper samba-client
24 packages to upgrade, 4 new.
Overall download size: 55.2 MiB. After the operation, additional 509.0 KiB will be
used.
Continue? [y/n/?] (y): y
Do you agree with the terms of the license? [yes/no] (no): y
Retrieving package MozillaFirefox-10.0.2-2.21.1.x86_64 (1/28), 13.6 MiB (36.0 MiB unpacked)
Retrieving delta: ./x86_64/MozillaFirefox-10.0.1_10.0.2-2.19.1_2.21.1.x86_64.drpm, 251.0 KiB
.....................................................(I have truncated the text as it was too long)
.....................................................
Applying delta: ./samba-client-3.6.1_3.6.3-34.3.1_34.6.1.x86_64.drpm [done]
Installing: MozillaFirefox-10.0.2-2.21.1 [done]
Additional rpm output:
Unknown media type in type 'all/all'
Unknown media type in type 'all/allfiles'
Unknown media type in type 'uri/mms'
Unknown media type in type 'uri/mmst'
Unknown media type in type 'uri/mmsu'
Unknown media type in type 'uri/pnm'
Unknown media type in type 'uri/rtspt'
Unknown media type in type 'uri/rtspu'
Unknown media type in type 'interface/x-winamp-skin'
Installing: aaa_base-12.1-534.107.1 [done]
Additional rpm output:
Updating /etc/sysconfig/language...
Updating /etc/sysconfig/backup...
Updating /etc/sysconfig/boot...
Updating /etc/sysconfig/suseconfig...
Updating /etc/sysconfig/clock...
Updating /etc/sysconfig/proxy...
Updating /etc/sysconfig/windowmanager...
Updating /etc/sysconfig/cron...
Updating /etc/sysconfig/news...
Updating /etc/sysconfig/shutdown...
Updating etc/passwd...unchanged
Updating etc/group...unchanged
Updating etc/shadow...unchanged
Installing: flash-player-11.1.102.62-7.1 [done]
Installing: grub-0.97-177.4.1 [done]
Additional rpm output:
0+1 records in
0+1 records out
102026 bytes (102 kB) copied, 0.000194438 s, 525 MB/s
Installing: libgnutls28-3.0.3-5.3.1 [done]
Installing: libopenssl1_0_0-1.0.0e-34.5.1 [done]
Installing: libpython2_7-1_0-32bit-2.7.2-7.5.1 [done]
Installing: libtalloc2-2.0.5-34.6.1 [done]
Installing: libtdb1-1.2.9-34.6.1 [done]
Installing: libtdb1-32bit-1.2.9-34.6.1 [done]
Installing: libwbclient0-3.6.3-34.6.1 [done]
Installing: libxslt1-1.1.26-15.3.1 [done]
Installing: opensuse-manuals_en-12.1-12.3.2 [done]
Installing: oxygen-gtk-1.1.4-2.4.1 [done]
Installing: pm-utils-1.4.1-12.4.1 [done]
Additional rpm output:
redirecting to systemctl
Warning: Unit file of created job changed on disk, 'systemctl --system daemon-reload' recommended.
Installing: MozillaFirefox-translations-common-10.0.2-2.21.1 [done]
Installing: autofs-5.0.6-5.4.1 [done]
Additional rpm output:
Updating /etc/sysconfig/autofs...
redirecting to systemctl
Installing: aaa_base-extras-12.1-534.107.1 [done]
Installing: flash-player-kde4-11.1.102.62-7.1 [done]
Installing: openssl-1.0.0e-34.5.1 [done]
Installing: libtalloc2-32bit-2.0.5-34.6.1 [done]
Installing: libtevent0-0.9.11-34.6.1 [done]
Installing: libsmbclient0-3.6.3-34.6.1 [done]
Installing: libxslt-devel-1.1.26-15.3.1 [done]
Installing: pm-utils-ndiswrapper-1.4.1-12.4.1 [done]
Installing: samba-client-32bit-3.6.3-34.6.1 [done]
Installing: libldb1-1.0.2-34.6.1 [done]
Installing: samba-client-3.6.3-34.6.1 [done]
Additional rpm output:
Updating /etc/sysconfig/network/dhcp...
There are some running programs that use files deleted by recent upgrade. You may wish to restart some of them. Run 'zypper ps' to list these programs.
On 02/27/2012 05:06 PM, Prad viking wrote:
>
> Here is the terminal output for zypper lr -d
>
>
> Code:
> --------------------
>
>
>
> linux-o6mf:/home/viking # zypper lr -d
> # | Alias | Name | Enabled | Refresh | Priority | Type | URI | Service
> —±----------------------------------±----------------------------------------±--------±--------±---------±---------±--------------------------------------------------------------------------±-------
> 1 | ATI/AMD-FGLRX | ATI/AMD-FGLRX | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | http://geeko.ioda.net/mirror/ati/openSUSE_12.1/ |
> 2 | PK_TMP_DIR | PK_TMP_DIR | Yes | Yes | 99 | plaindir | dir:///var/tmp/TmpDir.aeKedx |
> 3 | Packman Repository | Packman Repository | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | http://packman.inode.at/suse/12.1/ |
> 4 | download.opensuse.org-Extra | openSUSE BuildService - KDE:Extra | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Extra/openSUSE_12.1/ |
> 5 | download.opensuse.o,rg-UpdatedApps | openSUSE BuildService - KDE:UpdatedApps | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/UpdatedApps/openSUSE_12.1/ |
> 6 | download.opensuse.org-games | openSUSE BuildService - Games | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/games/openSUSE_12.1/ |
> 7 | download.opensuse.org-mozilla | openSUSE BuildService - Mozilla | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/mozilla/openSUSE_12.1/ |
> 8 | download.opensuse.org-non-oss | Main Repository (NON-OSS) | Yes | Yes | 99 | yast2 | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/12.1/repo/non-oss/ |
> 9 | download.opensuse.org-non-oss_1 | openSUSE-12.1-Non-Oss | Yes | Yes | 99 | yast2 | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/12.1/repo/non-oss |
> 10 | download.opensuse.org-oss | Main Repository (OSS) | Yes | Yes | 99 | yast2 | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/12.1/repo/oss/ |
> 11 | download.opensuse.org-oss_1 | openSUSE-12.1-Oss | Yes | Yes | 99 | yast2 | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/12.1/repo/oss |
> 12 | download.opensuse.org-oss_2 | Main Repository (Sources) | Yes | Yes | 99 | yast2 | http://download.opensuse.org/source/distribution/12.1/repo/oss/ |
> 13 | download.opensuse.org-update | Main Update Repository | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/update/12.1/ |
> 14 | google-chrome | google-chrome | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/rpm/stable/x86_64 |
> 15 | openSUSE_Factory | openSUSE_Factory | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/graphics/openSUSE_Factory/ |
> 16 | opensuse-guide.org-repo | libdvdcss repository | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | http://opensuse-guide.org/repo/12.1/ |
> 17 | packman.inode.at-suse | Packman Repository | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | http://packman.inode.at/suse/12.1/ |
> 18 | repo-debug | openSUSE-12.1-Debug | No | Yes | 99 | NONE | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/distribution/12.1/repo/oss/ |
> 19 | repo-debug-update | openSUSE-12.1-Update-Debug | No | Yes | 99 | NONE | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/update/12.1/ |
> 20 | repo-non-oss | openSUSE-12.1-Non-Oss | Yes | Yes | 99 | yast2 | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/12.1/repo/non-oss/ |
> 21 | repo-oss | openSUSE-12.1-Oss | Yes | Yes | 99 | yast2 | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/12.1/repo/oss/ |
> 22 | repo-source | openSUSE-12.1-Source | No | Yes | 99 | NONE | http://download.opensuse.org/source/distribution/12.1/repo/oss/ |
> 23 | repo-update | openSUSE-12.1-Update | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/update/12.1/
first, please read and follow the paragraph beginning with “IMPORTANT”
in this posting http://tinyurl.com/33qc9vu, i ask you to read that first
because it will explain what is guiding this:
please open YaST Software Repositorys and disable and stop refreshing
these repos: 1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 7, 9, 11, 12, 14, 15, 16, 17, 20, 21, 23
then stop refreshing these: 8, 10, 18, 19, 22
if i did that right you should then have only four repos enabled (oss,
non-oss, update and packman; and only the last two or those refreshing.
after you have done that, then disable apper–have you done that?
ok, then reboot and do this in a terminal again:
su -
rpmdb --rebuilddb
zypper clean --all
zypper ref
zypper patch
and, next time you have more than four repos or download anything from
factory…you are on your own!!
in fact, i am nowhere near sure that what i have advised will repair all
the damage that (may) have been done with all those repos!!
and, i hope it is smooth because i would not know what else to do…
by the way, if it hurts your feelings that i’m asking you to follow info
in the “new person” FAQ then take a look at my repos:
http://paste.opensuse.org/81397698
–
DD http://tinyurl.com/DD-Caveat http://tinyurl.com/DD-Hardware
http://tinyurl.com/DD-Software
What does DistroWatch write about YOU?: http://tinyurl.com/SUSEonDW
On 2012-02-27 17:06, Prad viking wrote:
>
> Here is the terminal output for zypper lr -d
…
You have duplicated several times the repos oss, non-oss and updates.
Remove the duplicates. How did you manage to do that?
You have the packman repo twice, remove one.
Remove the “PK_TMP_DIR” repo.
Remove the “openSUSE_Factory” - what on earth are you doing with that one,
what are you thinking? It will destroy your system.
> disable apper…i can only guess how to do that: try right clicking
> on the icon and from the popup menu which results see if there is not
> something where you can allow, disallow or select:
At least ignore it completely.
> following that run these commands
You should have stopped here, your repo list is wrong. At this point I
would revise the entire list of installed packages using the yast package
manager, looking at those packages in red or other colors. In the version
tab you can choose which version you want. Some of them you will have
probably to downgrade.
–
Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)
On 02/27/2012 11:08 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>> following that run these commands
> You should have stopped here,
agree…
that was my fault…
i typed the ‘zypper lr -d’ request, scrolled down to read…
the phone rang,
i fed the lion,
built a house,
came back to the email and just picked up where i left off reading…
and THEN copy/pasted in did the zypper fix it magic 1,2,3…
eventually, a dup might be required–no?
–
DD
What does DistroWatch write about YOU?: http://tinyurl.com/SUSEonDW
su -
rpmdb --rebuilddb
zypper clean --all
zypper ref
zypper patch
Hi Denver,
Did all that you told and after the “zypper patch” instruction finally I see that everything is fine.
linux-o6mf:~ # zypper patch
Loading repository data...
Reading installed packages...
Resolving package dependencies...
Nothing to do.
Thanks you for your help… 
On 2012-02-28 08:28, DenverD wrote:
> came back to the email and just picked up where i left off reading…
Understandable 
Anyway, a zypper patch can do no damage as it pulls only from the update
repo, so don’t worry. And the user should have noticed at least part of the
problems in the repo list, the repeated repos are obvious.
> eventually, a dup might be required–no?
I’m afraid so.
–
Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)
On 02/28/2012 03:36 PM, Prad viking wrote:
> Thanks you for your help…
very welcome…keep those repos trimmed down to oss, non-oss, packman
and update all the time and you will not have troubles like these…
and, realize that any software one click that comes from a repo with any
of these words in it might kill you system: unstable, tumbleweed,
playground, experimental, home, maintenance
and, consider downloading from factory about as safe as playing in the
street.
and, after every 1-Click check to make sure all repos it enabled are
disabled and not refreshing…
or, of course it is your machine so do as you wish–but if you break it,
you fix it.
–
DD http://tinyurl.com/DD-Caveat http://tinyurl.com/DD-Hardware
http://tinyurl.com/DD-Software
What does DistroWatch write about YOU?: http://tinyurl.com/SUSEonDW