OpenSuse 12.1 on LapTop Vaio F125 + Win 7

i am trying to install opensuse 12.1 64 bit
i already put aside 32 GB of unallocated partition for Suse
( i have 4 drives in my windows 7 , recovery , that 100 mb one , C , D )
now when i start setup
it’s default solution is to delete all of my exist partitions and get the full hard disk for linux

when i try to change the setting my self
and just use that Unallocated part (32 GB )
it tells me you should choose more parts for it ,or choose a bigger partitions it is too small
=/

how much do i need to put aside for OpenSuse 12.1 ?

regards
-K

i increased it to 45 GB
and it says it is still little
but when i choosed my recovery drive ( 9gb ) to be deleted with it
that was okay

You should look at this
http://forums.opensuse.org/english/information-new-users/unreviewed-how-faq/450291-install-opensuse-alongside-win7-vista-guide.html#post2257084

Make sure you have a backup of your files

hey

so you are saying there is no way for me to keep all of my 4 drives ? =/

http://8202.1.img98.net/out.php/i161557_hard.jpg

this is how my drives looks like , so it is not exactly possible for me to delete Drive D -.-

Unfortuantely
That info (image) is next to useless to us here. It provides no real info.
See the guide about using Parted Magic (or any Linux live cd) to get us: fdisk -l

Then we can advise you

hey sorry

here it is fdisk -l

http://8202.1.img98.net/out.php/i161729_roxterm.png

and a screenshot from Gparted tool

http://8202.1.img98.net/out.php/i161728_gparted.png

as i realized till now i can’t have more than 4 primary partitions , no matter for windows 7 or any other OS

i have lots of info in Drive D and it is hard for me to move all of them to merge drive C and D

don’t you think it is better for me to delete that recovery partition and add that to my drive C .

regards
-K

On 12/24/2011 7:16 PM, kourosh1991 wrote:
>
> hey sorry
>
> here it is fdisk -l
>
> http://8202.1.img98.net/out.php/i161729_roxterm.png
>
> and a screenshot from Gparted tool
>
> http://8202.1.img98.net/out.php/i161728_gparted.png
>
> as i realized till now i can’t have more than 4 primary partitions , no
> matter for windows 7 or any other OS
>
> i have lots of info in Drive D and it is hard for me to move all of
> them to merge drive C and D
>
> don’t you think it is better for me to delete that recovery partition
> and add that to my drive C .
>
>
>
> regards
> -K
>
kourosh1991;

One of your partitions can be an “Extended Partition”. This partition may contain
multiple logical partitions; e.g. /, /swap, /home.


P.V.
“We’re all in this together, I’m pulling for you” Red Green

Looking at that. My advice is to leave it be. Don’t try installing Linux.
It is possible. But it would be messy. You have so much data in sda4 !

But I have to say. It’s the most bizarre setup I have ever seen.
sda3 is set as boot partition but it’s way too big and is also full of data.

Quite frankly it’s an absolute disaster to look at. Who ever would partition an HD like that.

Personally: I’d be more interested about how well openSUSE runs from a LiveCD
What works and what doesn’t.
Make sure I had an external Backup
Then I’d know if I could just wipe it all away and get rid of windows. But that’s Me :smiley:

If you really want to try. I can give you direction. But I’d need a screen of the content of sda1,2,3
Just to be sure

kourosh1991;

One of your partitions can be an “Extended Partition”. This partition may contain
multiple logical partitions; e.g. /, /swap, /home.

Currently it’s not as simple as making a statement like this.
What you say is true
But not so easy to achieve with the current setup

hey here are the screenshots

SDA1 : It is my recovery drive , that is around 10 GB
http://8202.1.img98.net/out.php/i162641_sda1.png

SDA2 : System reserved drive , around 100 mb
http://8202.1.img98.net/out.php/i162642_sda2.png

SDA3 : My windows drive ,
http://8202.1.img98.net/out.php/i162643_sda3.png
i had habit to do it since i was a kid :smiley: to put some space in my windows drive , for installing programs
and use other drive(s) for games , videos ,etc

my windows is about 1.5 years old and it is pretty slow in start up -.-
it takes around 6-7 min for full loading
My windows folder is 30 GB O.o

what is your mind about that i do a system restore
then delete that recovery drive (cause i have got back up discs too )
resize partitions and there also will be slot for me to install OpenSuse :smiley:
if it is ok , please your suggestion on size of drives
or if you think of something better(or easier) let me know :slight_smile:

Regards
-Kourosh

P.S : Merry Christmas

OK
That makes more sense
Except you didn’t say what was on sda4

my windows is about 1.5 years old and it is pretty slow in start up -.-
it takes around 6-7 min for full loading
Good grief … That is crazy

Tell me about sda4 first

Tell me about sda4 first
My guess is it’s some kind of storage for all your video/music ?

Which would lead me to a question: Do you have any external HD storage? Or could you get any?

yes , as i stated earlier about my habit :stuck_out_tongue:
there i have everything except my OS and programs
so video , music , game etc

i already have got an extra 1 TB HD ,but it is kinda full
but i can barrow an empty one from a friend for the use of backing up and moving files .

The problem is two fold.

  1. You need to loose a partition you have dedicated already
  2. You have so much data

Here is the best solution for you. Because I don’t want you to end up with a borked system.
Acquire a HD that can replace sda4 and move all you data to it.
Defrag windows

Using Parted Magic: We can now delete sda4 which will give you loads of space.
Now. With that free space you need to use Parted Magic to create an Extended Partition in all the free space
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10573557/Partitioning%20example%20win7-linux.mpeg
This video shows me shrinking windows, but it shows you the principle. And then creating an Extended. Ignore all the crazy mouse behaviour, it was playing up in the VM.
The video then shows the principle of creating Logical partitions inside the Extended space.
Create a swap equal to your RAM
Create a ext4 of 25GB (this will ultimately be for / your root file system)
Create a ext4 of 100GB (this will ultimately be for your /home file system)
Create a NTFS using all the remaining free space (that will be around 300+ GB) This will give you back some of your windows space.
Apply. It can take a while.

You are now ready to install openSUSE
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10573557/12.1_install/12.1_slideshow (You can download this office document)
or
https://picasaweb.google.com/107564133608385811033/121_kde_LiveCD_Install

really thank you

i will do it in 1-2 days and then let you know

just to be sure

so i can make logical partitions for both linux and my storage on a extended partition ? or do i need to make 2 extended partitions ?

and then , how much do you suggest is enough for my windows partition , don’t wanna it to get slow again any soon-.-

An extended Partition is just like a container. You only create One Extended partition. But you can create as many logical partitions as you like inside it.

So yes, you will create the partitions you require for Linux and your windows storage in the extended space.
But please observe the order I quoted, that will leave the windows storage to be the last partition you create. There is a reason for doing this.

I’m confused by this comment

and then , how much do you suggest is enough for my windows partition , don’t wanna it to get slow again any soon-.-

We are not changing the windows OS partition
Speeding windows up is another subject, usually only resolved by a complete re-install. But I could offer some advice if you like.

advices are always welcome :smiley:

i have another question that is not related to our discussion
but couldn’t find any proper answer by searching
one of my big problems for recovering is that i will loose my skype archive ,
cause my skype archive file is corrupted and when i try to move it i get I/O error
is there any program to move corrupted files (will gparted do that ? )

regards
-Kourosh

I can’t really answer your question about Skype. (I assume you are meaning in windows)
But I would take your question to the Skype forum.

Back to your windows slowness.
Typically the more you install the slower it becomes. All manner of crud is installed with windows software and most of it loads to the startup and or systray. As well as adding more bloat to the registry.
Spybot Search and Destroy has a facility to help you remove unnecessary programs from startup, on top of the main tasks for which it is usually employed.