openSUSE 11 - KDE 3 or KDE 4

For the KDE users:

During your new install of openSUSE 11, did you stick with the tried and true KDE 3.5 or did you make the switch to KDE 4?

Note sure if I’ve actually switched, but I did decide to give KDE 4 a good run. :slight_smile:

From what I’ve seen so far from KDE4, I think I’ll have a hard time loving it. Give me KDE3 over KDE4 anytime.

I stuck with KDE 3.5. Migration will be difficult if I can’t have most the advanced features already found in KDE 3.5.


KDE4 is still a beta product. The KDE repos for “factory” contain another beta that’s the latest and I’m told it’s more functional. Since that and the default in Suse are both beta versions, wouldn’t hurt to try the later version. But I don’t think KDE4 will be a viable workplace product for another year IMHO.

I’ve been using 4.1 snapshots since 11.0 RC3. Actually, was using them in 10.3 before that.

It’s much better than 4.0. Even though to openSUSE’s credit, the devs did a great job of backporting some of the patches and improvements from 4.1 to 4.0.x which makes the openSUSE KDE4 a sort of hybrid between 4.0 and 4.1, 4.1 is still more usable. And once people can let go of the old “files on the desktop” metaphor, they’ll find that folderview in plasma is much more powerful and flexible. It’s cool to play with, because this is the stage at which plasma is really starting to take shape.

Just my 2c…


@else_where I’ve upgraded to this
Help → about KDE → shows this: Version 4.00.82 release 4.1
I used this repo:
Index of /repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/UNSTABLE:/Desktop/openSUSE_Factory

But I got a few broken dependencies and a very improved but nonetheless broken result.
I’m due a new DVD in a few days and will reinstall. How do I move from that to the “snapshots” you speak of and how do I enable “folder view”?



I’d say install with gnome first or any other WM of your choosing, or if add the 4.1 repo during install. But anyway what worked best for me was not to upgrade to 4.0.82 but install it “fresh” from a gnome installation.


I installed both (nice feature) and use 3.5 more often due to the still ongoing lack of desktop features in KDE4 beta.

you can move to KDE4 unstable by adding the build-service community repo in yast that says:

Index of /repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Factory:/Desktop/openSUSE_11.0

the folder view he spoke of is new and default in KDE4.0.81+. It is a new way of thinking. You do not have the classical desktop icons anymore but merely a new widget that can be configured to show you the contents of a filesystem folder on the desktop (so it can show ~/Desktop as well to use it in the oldschool way) and you can more of these at once to show different folders.

this might be nice to watch regarding folder view:
Free as in free speech » Blog Archive » What can KDE 4.1 do for you ?


After a few updates yesterday. KDE4 and OpenSuse 11.0 has become more stable for my system. So I won’t complain too much right now.

My system if faster and better then it had been under 10.3. If I could only get suspend resume to work I think I may have everything under 11.0. Working perfectly

KDE4 included with openSUSE 11 is stable, but I would still install 3.5. What a couple weeks and install KDE 4.1. That is the KDE4 that everyone was waiting for.

I installed KDE 3.5.9, I’ll wait till KDE 4.1 comes out, it’s only a month or so. :slight_smile:

I installed KDE that gave me both 3.5 and 4.0 automatically hence I have my ‘usual’ desktop 3.5.x and open KDE4.0.x as a separate user.

I do my work still on 3.5.x but a few hrs per day I switch to 4.0.x to get used to the new feel and tweak it until I’m happy.

My guess is that I’ll use both till the end of the year.

i chose kde 4(.0) then immediately upgraded to 4.1.

KDE 4 definitely. Already on 4.1 Beta.

I agree with others who have pointed out that desktop icons seem to be one of the major points of division between those who are less enthusiastic about KDE 4.0.x.

Never been a desktop icon person so that hasn’t hampered the move to KDE 4. The big advantage in using 4.1 for me is the improved KWin. KDE PIM was the big incentive but the Suse KDE Team did a good job to backport it to 4.0.x.

Folderview is a good idea though. Though it would be nice to easily remove the shaded widget background.

The more I read the more I think that’s good advice

Where did you get that; link to repo?

I can’t decide: on the one hand kde 3.5 is very stable and on the other hand 4.0 looks good, is usable but still has some issues. For me kde 4.0 does a good job and but 4.1 will be much better when it is released and I will upgrade then.

Currently what i don’t like is that I have so many kde3 apps installed :frowning: and that i cannot sort my favorites in the start menu :eek:

After a couple of days of time with 4.0.x, I removed the pattern from installation. Repeatedly booting to a black screen, having the taskbar fail to appear, or be able to do simple things such as minimise or close a window were mildly frustrating to say the least. For the forseeable future, I shall remain with 3.5.9.

My only hope is that it remains an option for installation in openSUSE 11.1 and further.

While I’m sure 4.x.x will improve and mature over time, it’s far from something I can afford to have fail on me while working. 3.5.9 is tried and tested. It surprises me a little that the KDE 4 option wasn’t more clearly noted as being anything other than “less mature” at the installation screen. With the greatest respect to the developers who are no doubt working so hard on 4.x.x. “less mature” is something of an understatement.

Yes, KDE 4.x.x is improving in leaps and bounds, but in my eyes, it should have been made more clear than 4.x.x was quite possibly only for those who enjoyed the bleeding edge. Bluntness over ambiguity is sometimes needed. For the installation choice, bluntness should have won over.

openSUSE 11.0 with 3.5.9 is an absolute joy and wonder to use. I wonder how many would have missed out on this experience after having chosen 4.0.x.

I’m happily using the KDE 4.0.82 release (also known as KDE 4.1 Beta 1) on both of my openSUSE 11.0 boxes (one laptop, one desktop). In my opinion, it’s significantly better than the 4.0.4 version that was shipped with 11.0.

Would you say that it is significantly better than KDE 3.5?