openSUSE 11 - First Experiences

People can understandably get a little weary of re-embracing their desktop environment.

Well, I don’t know how things went with KDE 2.x because back then I stuck to the command line and I used GUI only in Windows for Photoshop and Corel Draw (nothing has changed on that front actually :D). Of course back then, on Debian, you had to compile X from scratch and even getting Netscape to work took 5 days of tweaking.

But back then is back then and now is now. Things have changed a lot and statements like this won’t change the fact that KDE 4 is unusable at this stage and if some of its philosophy doesn’t change, it will remain unusable and will drive many people away.

I completely agree with you that KDE 4 is a very exciting project and it has a lot of potential. But having potential is one thing and realizing it is another - it could go either way. And just because KDE 2.x ended up a big success doesn’t mean that KDE 4 will too. So far I am not convinced at all.

I installed 11 on my laptop Saturday night. It went REALLY fast. That
image-based install really does its job. Unfortunately I had
‘autoconfigure’ checked so I had to go back and tweak some settings.

Very pretty.

The new startup sound is a startle, though. When I logged in for the first
time and that high PING sounded, the cat on my lap dematerialized and
rematerialized 6 feet away. And looked death at me. He HAD been sleeping.

Unfortunately I’ve run into a bit of a critical bug. Something, and it
looks to be in the network stack, is causing hard lockups on my latop (a
Dell inspiron E1505). It’s an annoying bug since it isn’t doing anything
nice like dumping a lot of information about what just happened. I think
network stack because there are log entries about access-point association
near the lock-up time. No proof, though.


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it can’t by accident be related to this bug, right?

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=389656

I had my system freeze to. it seemed to be wireless at first when I investigated further I discovered that I ran into the attr/reiser/beagle bug.

stefan

stefan1975 <stefan1975@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> expounded:

> it can’t by accident be related to this bug, right?

> https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=389656

> I had my system freeze to. it seemed to be wireless at first when I
> investigated further I discovered that I ran into the
> attr/reiser/beagle bug.

I’m 90% certain my root partition is ext3. That said, due to inconvenience
I haven’t tried to ssh into the laptop when it is in the hung state. That
should help tell me if its an X issue or a kernel issue. I haven’t run
into the issue yet while in command-line mode, but then I’m generally not
as network intenseive when I’m there.

Thanks for pointing me at the bug. I’ll stop beagle and see if that incurs
better stability.

I haven’t customized much yet, so a nuke-n-rebuild is very much a
possibility.


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My hope is that it will be dropped completely and start instead on KDE 5. :slight_smile:

I was disappointed to…one more ugly thing…my touchpad is broken and I cannot use it properly in OS 11.
It works hard sometimes it acts like multitouch and his sensivity is bad.
I suppose it is because bad driver however in OS 10.3 everything worked smoothly.

My laptop is Acer 5315 .

This is true, but note that KDE4 is preselected as the default desktop option in the installer. This could be a trap for new OpenSUSE users?

I installed KDE4… 10 minutes of use convinced me to go back to KDE3!

Paul

prhunt wrote:
> FizzyFanta;1821512 Wrote:
>> I decided to stick with kde 3.
>>
>> To be fair the installer does state to the end user that kde 4 is not
>> as mature as the other desktop environments and has less functionality.
>>
>
> This is true, but note that KDE4 is preselected as the default desktop
> option in the installer. This could be a trap for new OpenSUSE users?
>
> I installed KDE4… 10 minutes of use convinced me to go back to KDE3!
>
> Paul
>
>
This is not true. openSUSE 11 has no “default” desktop option. Only time
you are defaulted to KDE4 is if you use the KDE live cd, otherwise the
DVD gives no default and gives both KDE options, Gnome and XFCE.

My mistake. I’ve just set up another openSUSE 11 box and indeed no desktop was pre-selected.

Paul