openSUSE 11.4 and checking for updates / zypper up / dup and Thumbleweed

Hi All,

I have openSUSE 11.4 and added repro for Thumbleweed to the basic repro’s.
As told me I had to do a zypper dup ones for the Thumbleweed-repro to bring system up to date. This all is okay but I have some minor questions:

  1. In KDE I do not see an update-icon in the system-tray anymore: 11.3 had one.
    Does this mean the auto-update function is disabled?

  2. About "levels’ of repro’s: they are all 99, should Thumbleweed in my case
    be more important: say 75 ( at least <99 ) ?

  3. When I use zypper up I have apps that wants updates and some are “hold back”
    Is this related to repro’s that do refresh but not install ?

  4. Someone told me NEVER mesh around with zypper DUP, so he means ONLY use zypper UP. What to believe ?

Thanks for your time and energy :slight_smile:

Hi,

A man zypper would have tell you the difference : zypper dup = distribution upgrade and zypper up = update all installed packages with newer versions, where possible :slight_smile:

On 2011-03-18 00:06, ritslinux wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> I have openSUSE 11.4 and added repro for Thumbleweed to the basic
> repro’s.

If you install tumbleweed you are not simply installing a repo, you are
installing another, different, openSUSE version. You no longer have 11.3 or
11.4. From now on, ask them for your problems…

http://en.opensuse.org/Tumbleweed


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.2 x86_64 “Emerald” at Telcontar)

On 03/18/2011 01:03 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> If you install tumbleweed you are not simply installing a repo, you are
> installing another, different, openSUSE version. You no longer have 11.3 or
> 11.4. From now on, ask them for your problems…
>
> http://en.opensuse.org/Tumbleweed

i guess they have asked for their own forum already??

this should be fun to watch! (or, sad.)


DenverD
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[NNTP posted w/openSUSE 11.3, KDE4.5.5, Thunderbird3.1.8, nVidia
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“It is far easier to read, understand and follow the instructions than
to undo the problems caused by not.” DD 23 Jan 11

On 2011-03-18 14:02, DenverD wrote:
> On 03/18/2011 01:03 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>> If you install tumbleweed you are not simply installing a repo, you are
>> installing another, different, openSUSE version. You no longer have 11.3 or
>> 11.4. From now on, ask them for your problems…
>>
>> http://en.opensuse.org/Tumbleweed
>
> i guess they have asked for their own forum already??

It would make sense.

> this should be fun to watch! (or, sad.)

(IMHO)

People should be aware that T. is a derivative of Factory, in theory more
stable - but it is highly experimental and as dangerous.

We have to be blunt with people that just “enable a repo” and expect things
to work, and us to be able to help if they don’t. It is a version of
factory, no longer the “Distro”.

Only people following factory closely can help, and nearly only the devs
know what they are changing, what works, what not. So the best place to ask
is their mail list.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.2 x86_64 “Emerald” at Telcontar)