openSUSE 11.3 RC1

First Impression:
Installed RC1 with 4.4.86 (KDE 4.4.86 (KDE 4.5 >= 20100616)) “release 3” yesterday. Used Yast and updated from MS7 to RC1.

Inital problems were:

  1. Every time I rebooted my desktop folder and my Trash Can disappeared. (Found possible reason today but have not rebooted to see if fixed yet)
  2. Got an install error which I have not followed up on yet:
    update error: /lib/apparmor/rc.apparmor.functions line 171 8380 Segmentation fault
    $Parser $ Abstraction $Parser_Args “$profile” > /dev/nul
    will report as bug.
  3. Installed KMyMoney4 and restored the .kmy file from 11.2. Saved as a datbase (had to creat inital DB KMyMoney on mysql server first) Then the save as DB created all the tables etc. Seems to be working good.
  4. Only major issue appears to be regression on powerdown. If select shutdown as option from lock/logout the system does not powerdown. Last line sdisplayed are:
    The system will halt immediately
    [3601, 725746] powe down
    reboot works. Seems we had this on some 11.2 systems.

My system is an Intel DX48BT2 motherboad, Intel(R) Core™2 Duo CPU E7200 @ 2.53GHz

  1. Installed Nvidia driver (hardway) with no problem.
    NVIDIA 256.35
  2. Even some issues I was having with Akonadi - Contacts
    seem to be fixed. Only thing not working is getting contacts to MySQl Server on local host.

rotfl! upscope

I’ve seen this with a bad nVidia proprietary graphic driver, where some aspect of the proprietary driver blocks the gui shutdown. However a “shutdown -h now” works. Any chance your beta NVIDIA 256.35 driver is at fault ?

Does it shut down properly if you type:

su -c 'shutdown -h now'

Installed 11.3 rc1 yesterday

System: phenom 9650 quad-core 2,300 mhz, nVidia GeForce 8500 GT with nouveau Gallium 7.8.1 and 3g for memory, linux 2.6.34-9 x86_64, kde 4.4.4 , computer with ez-swap drive with no other os installed.

Installation went well, except that i have no composite on graphic. Scanner epson v200 was easy (with iscan), printer konica pagepro 1350w was also easy. Skype with a few tweaking and is fonctionning ok now with logitech quickcam pro 9000 (usb audio). Wanted to install kmymoney4 but have to roll back on a lot of files, soo i went for kmymoney kde3 and its performing properly with the ofx addon. The mp3 files worked without any addon with Amarok (very nice by the way) and for dvd i installed vlc and it is also working perfectly. As for usb hdd and pendrive, all is well.

The only things that i dont understand (for now) is that in firefox and thunderbird the fonts are very small on the left pane but with the proper size on the right pane.
Up to now, i am very impress with 11.3

I think to obtain that you need to install the proprietary graphic driver from nVidia. Which means you need to black list the nouveau driver and also possibly apply an edit to the /etc/sysconfig … I tried to document some of the considerations here in this brand new wiki: SDB:Configuring graphics cards - openSUSE

oldcpu wrote:

>
> upscope;2179765 Wrote:
>>
>> 4. Only major issue appears to be regression on powerdown. If
>> select shutdown as option from lock/logout the system does not
>> powerdown. Last line sdisplayed are:
>> The system will halt immediately
>> [3601, 725746] powe down
>> reboot works. Seems we had this on some 11.2 systems. I’ve seen
>> this with a bad nVidia proprietary graphic driver, where some
> aspect of the proprietary driver blocks the gui shutdown.
> However a
> “shutdown -h now” works. Any chance your beta NVIDIA 256.35
> driver is at fault ?
>
> Does it shut down properly if you type:
>
> Code:
> --------------------
> su -c ‘shutdown -h now’
> --------------------
>
Thought I mentioned I had not tried manual shutdown yet. Guess I
didn’t because I don’t see it in my message. I planned to try it
today but haven’t yet. I post results later today.

Thanks for your reply. Just finished looking at your Wiki page on
Nvidia, looks good. I’ve been using the hard way for most updates
to my driver.


Russ
| openSUSE 11.2 (2.6.31.12-0.2-desktop) x86_64 | KDE 4.4.3 | Intel
Core 2 Dual E7200 | 4 GB RAM | GeForce 8400 GS | 320GB Disc (2) |

@oldcpu : thanks, i now have: nVidia 256.35 driver installed and made it permanent in /boot/grub/menu.lst :wink:

oldcpu wrote:

> to document some of the considerations here in this brand new wiki:
> ‘SDB:Configuring graphics cards - openSUSE’
> (http://wiki.opensuse.org/SDB:Configuring_graphics_cards)
>
>
Read that and it looks good but
was it intentional in “4th thing to try (edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/
directory)” to use the nv driver with a radeon card?

Let me explain :slight_smile:

When one installs 11.1 RC1, with the nouveau driver, the default /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-device.conf looks like this:

Section "Device"
  Identifier "Default Device"
   
  #Driver "radeon"
 
  ## Required magic for radeon/radeonhd drivers; output name
  ## (here: "DVI-0") can be figured out via 'xrandr -q'
  #Option "monitor-DVI-0" "Default Monitor"
   
EndSection

ie the reference " #Driver “radeon” is commented out, and there is no driver entered. This will be intuitively OBVIOUS to anyone who opens the file. I assume you did not open it. :slight_smile: or you managed somehow :confused: to get a different 50-device.conf file.

Please, I’m curious now. Did you actually look inside the default file (and see something different) ?

oldcpu wrote:

>
> upscope;2179765 Wrote:
>>
>> 4. Only major issue appears to be regression on powerdown. If
>> select shutdown as option from lock/logout the system does not
>> powerdown. Last line sdisplayed are:
>> The system will halt immediately
>> [3601, 725746] powe down
>> reboot works. Seems we had this on some 11.2 systems. I’ve seen
>> this with a bad nVidia proprietary graphic driver, where some
> aspect of the proprietary driver blocks the gui shutdown.
> However a
> “shutdown -h now” works. Any chance your beta NVIDIA 256.35
> driver is at fault ?
>
> Does it shut down properly if you type:
>
> Code:
> --------------------
> su -c ‘shutdown -h now’
> --------------------
>
Finally tried the manual shutdown. Yesterday I did a fresh install
of RC1 from the DVD. I have not updated KDE so it is 4.4.3 for now.
Did the reinstall because of some problems I had not related to
this. Tried shutdown from Gui lock-logout icon, it failed after
same power down message in earlier thread.

Today I tried your command from konsole:

/code:
su -c shutdown -h now keep getting messages that -h is not an
option for su. also tried complete path as /sbin/shutdown etc. Got
message: The system will shutdown immediately
linux-xxxx [3157.405371] logon: Power down

Did su to root, the executed /sbin/shutdown -t 5 -h now. got the
same message as above.

Is not the NVIDIA beta 256 35 causing problem as its not installed.
System is using the nouveau driver. Before reinstall it was the
NVIDIA driver 256 35. Problem showed up after installing RC1.

One change that was made during clean install was to boot from
/boot instead of mbr. Could this cause problem? system boots OK.

11.2 (same hardware different disk) with same KDE version shutdown
OK.

Thanks for your help.

Russ
| openSUSE 11.2 (2.6.31.12-0.2-desktop) x86_64 | KDE 4.4.3 | Intel
Core 2 Dual E7200 | 4 GB RAM | GeForce 8400 GS | 320GB Disc (2) |

Thats because you mistyped what I provided. I’ll repeat what I provided:

su -c 'shutdown -h now'

NOTE the single quotations!!

oldcpu wrote:

>
> graham;2180375 Wrote:
>> oldcpu wrote:
>>
>>
>> > to document some of the considerations here in this brand new wiki:
>> > ‘SDB:Configuring graphics cards - openSUSE’
>> > (‘SDB:Configuring graphics cards - openSUSE’
>> (http://wiki.opensuse.org/SDB:Configuring_graphics_cards))
>> >
>> >
>> Read that and it looks good but
>> was it intentional in “4th thing to try (edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/
>> directory)” to use the nv driver with a radeon card?
> Let me explain :slight_smile:
>
> When one installs 11.1 RC1, with the nouveau driver, the default
> /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-device.conf looks like this:
>
> Code:
> --------------------
> Section “Device”
> Identifier “Default Device”
>
> #Driver “radeon”
>
> ## Required magic for radeon/radeonhd drivers; output name
> ## (here: “DVI-0”) can be figured out via ‘xrandr -q’
> #Option “monitor-DVI-0” “Default Monitor”
>
> EndSection
> --------------------
> ie the reference " #Driver “radeon” is commented out, and there is no
> driver entered. This will be intuitively OBVIOUS to anyone who opens
> the file. I assume you did not open it. :slight_smile: or you managed somehow
> :confused: to get a different 50-device.conf file.
>
> Please, I’m curious now. Did you actually look inside the default file
> (and see something different) ?
>
>
I don’t actually have 11.3 RC1 installed, so, no I didn’t look inside the
file. I assumed that the file would have picked up the correct type of
card, i.e radeon rather than nvidia and so nv would not be correct.
I could not be sure of that because I couldn’t look at the actual file.

Ahh ok …

I think with the many changes taking place, it is important to do an ACTUAL install, in order to improve the quality of the observations. Or at least boot to a liveCD and check, again with the intention to improve the quality of the observations.

I installed 11.3 RC1 on 2 PCs, and I have booted the liveCD to 6 PCs (where in the liveCD memory the /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d structure is also in place). I’ve done this for nVidia, ATI and Intel graphic hardware. My recollection is that file content does NOT change. Its just an example file with lines commented out in most places.

oldcpu wrote:

>
> upscope;2180685 Wrote:
>>
>> /code:
>> su -c shutdown -h now keep getting messages that -h is not an
>> option for su.
>
> Thats because you mistyped what I provided. I’ll repeat what I
> provided:
>
>
> Code:
> --------------------
> su -c ‘shutdown -h now’
> --------------------
> NOTE the single quotations!!
>
Sure did, I missed those quote maks. I’ll try it again after I
finish reading my email and log onto 11.3.

Thanks for keeping me honest.


Russ
| openSUSE 11.2 (2.6.31.12-0.2-desktop) x86_64 | KDE 4.4.3 | Intel
Core 2 Dual E7200 | 4 GB RAM | GeForce 8400 GS | 320GB Disc (2) |

upscope wrote:

> oldcpu wrote:
>
>>
>> upscope;2180685 Wrote:
>>>
>>> /code:
>>> su -c shutdown -h now keep getting messages that -h is not an
>>> option for su.
>>
>> Thats because you mistyped what I provided. I’ll repeat what I
>> provided:
>>
>>
>> Code:
>> --------------------
>> su -c ‘shutdown -h now’
>> --------------------
>> NOTE the single quotations!!
>>
> Sure did, I missed those quote maks. I’ll try it again after I
> finish reading my email and log onto 11.3.
>
> Thanks for keeping me honest.
>
Just retired command. Stopped in same place. same message. Also tried from
safe mode with same results. Stepped thru startup (single command at time)
everything completed correctly so its not something not starting correctly.

Made a change to boot from mbr instead of /boot to see if that make a
difference on shutdown. will try shutdown again later. I am also on KDE
4.3.3 since reinstalling openSUSE 11.3 RC1 yesterday. Will upgrade again to
4.5 and see if shutdown works from there. Was failing there also, last known
good shutdown on openSUSE 11.3 was MS6.

Haven’t reported bug yet but probably should instead of working on it more.
Try to do that after I try shutdown later today. Will post bug number.

Thanks for your continuing help.

Hi. I have been using openSUSE since yesterday. I was using Ubuntu before openSUSE and now trying to discover to my new operating system.

I installed 11.3 RC1 but would like to ask some questions:

1- Can I upgrade RC version to the stable version of 11.3 on the existing system? My internet speed is not good and i want to upgrade it on update manager.

2- My KDE version is being seen 4.4.3 but in this forum they are saying that RC1 comes with 4.4.86. How can i get 4.4.86 and why my KDE is 4.4.3? Yesterday i tried to upgrade it but after my try, couldn’t open the desktop until reinstall OpenSUSE again.

3- How can I install the latest NVIDIA drivers. I have already tried to install yum package but there was an error. yum package was not identified on my system. Please explain me if there is an easy way or give me a link for the harder way.

4- Some of the icons on the desktop and on the panel are seeing faulty. Is this because of the graphic card drivers or KDE?

Thanks in advance for your quick replies.

On 06/27/2010 11:06 AM, Belki wrote:
>
> Hi. I have been using openSUSE since yesterday. I was using Ubuntu
> before openSUSE and now trying to discover to my new operating system.
>
> I installed 11.3 RC1 but would like to ask some questions:
>
> 1- Can I upgrade RC version to the stable version of 11.3 on the
> existing system? My internet speed is not good and i want to upgrade it
> on update manager.

Use ‘sudo zypper dup’ or download the NET install CD and use that to upgrade.

Thank you. Can we upgrade 11.2 to 11.3 same way?

On 06/27/2010 04:16 PM, Belki wrote:
>
> lwfinger;2181903 Wrote:
>>
>> Use ‘sudo zypper dup’ or download the NET install CD and use that to
>> upgrade.
>
> Thank you. Can we upgrade 11.2 to 11.3 same way?

You are supposed to be able to do it. When upgrading from 11.2, you will
need to get the Factory repo listed. I would suggest the NET install
method as it does this step automatically. It usually runs about 2 GB of
downloads on my system.