openSUSE-11.2-Updates repo has 11.3 milestone 1 patterns?

[russlar]

All,
I just ran zypper -lu, and all the patterns-openSUSE packages want to be updated to 11.3-1.1.1 from 11.2-20.22.1. I am running KDE4.4 from the 11.2 Factory desktop repos.

what’s up with that?

russellg@knomad:~> sudo zypper lr
#  | Alias                               | Name                                  | Enabled | Refresh
---+-------------------------------------+---------------------------------------+---------+--------
1  | KDE:Factory:11.2                    | KDE:Factory:11.2                      | Yes     | Yes
2  | KDE:Factory:11.2:Community          | KDE:Factory:11.2:Community            | Yes     | Yes
3  | Lazy-Kent                           | Lazy-Kent                             | No      | No
4  | Packman                             | Packman                               | Yes     | Yes
5  | download.opensuse.org-Backports     | openSUSE BuildService - KDE:Backports | Yes     | Yes
6  | download.opensuse.org-mozilla       | openSUSE BuildService - Mozilla       | Yes     | Yes
7  | http-download.opensuse.org-3aa2fcbd | openSUSE-11.2-Updates                 | Yes     | Yes
8  | libdvdcss                           | libdvdcss                             | No      | No
9  | repo-debug                          | openSUSE-11.2-Debug                   | No      | No
10 | repo-non-oss                        | openSUSE-11.2-Non-Oss                 | Yes     | Yes
11 | repo-oss                            | openSUSE-11.2-Oss                     | Yes     | Yes
12 | repo-source                         | openSUSE-11.2-Source                  | No      | No

and the openSUSE patterns…

v | openSUSE-11.2-Updates | mkinitrd                             | 2.5.10-4.5.2          | 2.5.10-4.6.1          | x86_64
v | openSUSE-11.2-Updates | patterns-openSUSE-apparmor           | 11.2-20.22.1          | 11.3-1.1.1            | x86_64
v | openSUSE-11.2-Updates | patterns-openSUSE-apparmor_opt       | 11.2-20.22.1          | 11.3-1.1.1            | x86_64
v | openSUSE-11.2-Updates | patterns-openSUSE-base               | 11.2-20.22.1          | 11.3-1.1.1            | x86_64
v | openSUSE-11.2-Updates | patterns-openSUSE-devel_C_C++        | 11.2-20.22.1          | 11.3-1.1.1            | x86_64
v | openSUSE-11.2-Updates | patterns-openSUSE-devel_basis        | 11.2-20.22.1          | 11.3-1.1.1            | x86_64
v | openSUSE-11.2-Updates | patterns-openSUSE-devel_kde          | 11.2-20.22.1          | 11.3-1.1.1            | x86_64
v | openSUSE-11.2-Updates | patterns-openSUSE-devel_qt4          | 11.2-20.22.1          | 11.3-1.1.1            | x86_64
v | openSUSE-11.2-Updates | patterns-openSUSE-enhanced_base      | 11.2-20.22.1          | 11.3-1.1.1            | x86_64
v | openSUSE-11.2-Updates | patterns-openSUSE-enhanced_base_opt  | 11.2-20.22.1          | 11.3-1.1.1            | x86_64
v | openSUSE-11.2-Updates | patterns-openSUSE-fonts              | 11.2-20.22.1          | 11.3-1.1.1            | x86_64
v | openSUSE-11.2-Updates | patterns-openSUSE-fonts_opt          | 11.2-20.22.1          | 11.3-1.1.1            | x86_64
v | openSUSE-11.2-Updates | patterns-openSUSE-games              | 11.2-20.22.1          | 11.3-1.1.1            | x86_64
v | openSUSE-11.2-Updates | patterns-openSUSE-imaging            | 11.2-20.22.1          | 11.3-1.1.1            | x86_64
v | openSUSE-11.2-Updates | patterns-openSUSE-imaging_opt        | 11.2-20.22.1          | 11.3-1.1.1            | x86_64
v | openSUSE-11.2-Updates | patterns-openSUSE-kde4               | 11.2-20.22.1          | 11.3-1.1.1            | x86_64
v | openSUSE-11.2-Updates | patterns-openSUSE-kde4_basis         | 11.2-20.22.1          | 11.3-1.1.1            | x86_64
v | openSUSE-11.2-Updates | patterns-openSUSE-kde4_games         | 11.2-20.22.1          | 11.3-1.1.1            | x86_64
v | openSUSE-11.2-Updates | patterns-openSUSE-kde4_imaging       | 11.2-20.22.1          | 11.3-1.1.1            | x86_64
v | openSUSE-11.2-Updates | patterns-openSUSE-kde4_internet      | 11.2-20.22.1          | 11.3-1.1.1            | x86_64
v | openSUSE-11.2-Updates | patterns-openSUSE-kde4_laptop        | 11.2-20.22.1          | 11.3-1.1.1            | x86_64
v | openSUSE-11.2-Updates | patterns-openSUSE-kde4_multimedia    | 11.2-20.22.1          | 11.3-1.1.1            | x86_64
v | openSUSE-11.2-Updates | patterns-openSUSE-kde4_office        | 11.2-20.22.1          | 11.3-1.1.1            | x86_64
v | openSUSE-11.2-Updates | patterns-openSUSE-kde4_pure          | 11.2-20.22.1          | 11.3-1.1.1            | x86_64
v | openSUSE-11.2-Updates | patterns-openSUSE-kde4_utilities     | 11.2-20.22.1          | 11.3-1.1.1            | x86_64
v | openSUSE-11.2-Updates | patterns-openSUSE-kde4_utilities_opt | 11.2-20.22.1          | 11.3-1.1.1            | x86_64
v | openSUSE-11.2-Updates | patterns-openSUSE-kde4_yast          | 11.2-20.22.1          | 11.3-1.1.1            | x86_64
v | openSUSE-11.2-Updates | patterns-openSUSE-laptop             | 11.2-20.22.1          | 11.3-1.1.1            | x86_64
v | openSUSE-11.2-Updates | patterns-openSUSE-multimedia         | 11.2-20.22.1          | 11.3-1.1.1            | x86_64
v | openSUSE-11.2-Updates | patterns-openSUSE-multimedia_opt     | 11.2-20.22.1          | 11.3-1.1.1            | x86_64
v | openSUSE-11.2-Updates | patterns-openSUSE-non_oss            | 11.2-20.22.1          | 11.3-1.1.1            | x86_64
v | openSUSE-11.2-Updates | patterns-openSUSE-non_oss_opt        | 11.2-20.22.1          | 11.3-1.1.1            | x86_64
v | openSUSE-11.2-Updates | patterns-openSUSE-office             | 11.2-20.22.1          | 11.3-1.1.1            | x86_64
v | openSUSE-11.2-Updates | patterns-openSUSE-office_opt         | 11.2-20.22.1          | 11.3-1.1.1            | x86_64
v | openSUSE-11.2-Updates | patterns-openSUSE-sw_management      | 11.2-20.22.1          | 11.3-1.1.1            | x86_64
v | openSUSE-11.2-Updates | patterns-openSUSE-sw_management_kde4 | 11.2-20.22.1          | 11.3-1.1.1            | x86_64
v | openSUSE-11.2-Updates | patterns-openSUSE-x11                | 11.2-20.22.1          | 11.3-1.1.1            | x86_64
v | openSUSE-11.2-Updates | patterns-openSUSE-x11_opt            | 11.2-20.22.1          | 11.3-1.1.1            | x86_64
v | openSUSE-11.2-Updates | patterns-openSUSE-yast2_basis        | 11.2-20.22.1          | 11.3-1.1.1            | x86_64
v | openSUSE-11.2-Updates | patterns-openSUSE-yast2_install_wf   | 11.2-20.22.1          | 11.3-1.1.1            | x86_64

[jlgm]

Hi there, I also notice that change but don’t really know what it means. If we “zypper up” to these changes we would be installing unstable packages?.

Please a good Samaritan could clarify this for us simple mortals

Thanks in advance,
Jose Luis

[Cloddy]

On 23/02/10 23:06, russlar wrote:
>
> All,
> I just ran zypper -lu, and all the patterns-openSUSE packages want to
> be updated to 11.3-1.1.1 from 11.2-20.22.1.
>
> what’s up with that?
>
>

Nothing, I hope, as I’ve updated my system! I saw the 11.3 version
numbers but didn’t twig its significance. Oh dear. No problems yet but
that might change after a reboot. It would probably be best if I reverse
the change.

–
Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks., UK. E-mail: newsman not newsboy
“I wear the cheese. It does not wear me.”

[oldcpu]

I’ve been playing with openSUSE-11.3 milestone2 (LXDE desktop) for a number of days now, and IMHO its fairly stable. I also briefly booted to openSUSE-11.3 milestone2 with KDE (the liveCD) but only ran it for a dozen minutes or so.

My personnel view is things may get rather difficult with openSUSE-11.3 milestone3, when the new GCC version is introduced. But milestone2 appears to be fairly harmless.

So as long as your factory update did not include the new GCC, you may be reasonably ok.

[russlar]

@oldcpu

I’ve been playing with openSUSE-11.3 milestone2 (LXDE desktop) for a number of days now, and IMHO its fairly stable. I also briefly booted to openSUSE-11.3 milestone2 with KDE (the liveCD) but only ran it for a dozen minutes or so.

My personnel view is things may get rather difficult with openSUSE-11.3 milestone3, when the new GCC version is introduced. But milestone2 appears to be fairly harmless.

So as long as your factory update did not include the new GCC, you may be reasonably ok.

That’s great info, but what about those of us who don’t want to go to 11.3 at all, until after it is released?

[oldcpu]

@russlar

That’s great info, but what about those of us who don’t want to go to 11.3 at all, until after it is released?

At the risk of telling “those of you” to close the barn door after the horse is gone, I would have said STAY AWAY FROM FACTORY. This was self inflicted.

Stick with OSS, Non-OSS, Update and Packman repos. Just those 4. No others. …

Sorry, apologies … thats my reply to "what about … "

[oldcpu]

@russlar

I just ran zypper -lu, and all the patterns-openSUSE packages want to be updated to 11.3-1.1.1 from 11.2-20.22.1. I am running KDE4.4 from the 11.2 Factory desktop repos.

what’s up with that?

I note there is a massive update available today for openSUSE-11.2 from KDE-4.3.1 to KDE-4.3.5.

What makes you certain those are openSUSE-11.3-1.1.1 patterns and not patterns associated with openSUSE-11.2 with the KDE-4.3.5 update? I ask that as someone who NEVER uses factory, and I’m interested in learning.

[Cloddy]

On 24/02/10 17:36, oldcpu wrote:
>
> russlar;2126345 Wrote:
>> That’s great info, but what about those of us who don’t want to go to
>> 11.3 at all, until after it is released?At the risk of telling “those of you” to close the barn door after the
> horse is gone, I would have said STAY AWAY FROM FACTORY. This was self
> inflicted.
>
> Stick with OSS, Non-OSS, Update and Packman repos. Just those 4. No
> others. …
>
> Sorry, apologies … thats my reply to "what about … "
>
>

Sorry, but I don’t understand your response. The apparent 11.3 versions
of the “patterns” modules are on the 11.2 update repo - nothing to do
with factory at all. Have a look at
http://download.opensuse.org/update/11.2/rpm/x86_64/ So sticking with
OSS, Non-OSS and Update - never mind Packman - got me into this trouble,
if trouble there is.

–
Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks., UK. E-mail: newsman not newsboy
“I wear the cheese. It does not wear me.”

[oldcpu]

@Cloddy

Sorry, but I don’t understand your response. The apparent 11.3 versions of the “patterns” modules are on the 11.2 update repo - nothing to do with factory at all

Indeed, hence my second post. What makes you think these are 11.3 versions and not updates to 11.2 for the new KDE update from KDE-4.3.1 to KDE-4.3.5 ?

[Cloddy]

On 24/02/10 19:28, Graham P Davis wrote:
> On 24/02/10 17:36, oldcpu wrote:
>>
>> russlar;2126345 Wrote:
>>> That’s great info, but what about those of us who don’t want to go to
>>> 11.3 at all, until after it is released?At the risk of telling “those of you” to close the barn door after the
>> horse is gone, I would have said STAY AWAY FROM FACTORY. This was self
>> inflicted.
>>
>> Stick with OSS, Non-OSS, Update and Packman repos. Just those 4. No
>> others. …
>>
>> Sorry, apologies … thats my reply to "what about … "
>>
>>
>
> Sorry, but I don’t understand your response. The apparent 11.3 versions
> of the “patterns” modules are on the 11.2 update repo - nothing to do
> with factory at all. Have a look at
> http://download.opensuse.org/update/11.2/rpm/x86_64/ So sticking with
> OSS, Non-OSS and Update - never mind Packman - got me into this trouble,
> if trouble there is.
>
>

Oops? I am using KDE factories for 4.4 but I don’t see how that affects
picking up 11.3 patterns from 11.2 update.

–
Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks., UK. E-mail: newsman not newsboy
“I wear the cheese. It does not wear me.”

[oldcpu]

@Cloddy

Oops? I am using KDE factories for 4.4 but I don’t see how that affects picking up 11.3 patterns from 11.2 update.

It may not.

I NEVER recommend using factory as it can be very problematic and too cutting edge … but as noted, I am very suspicious that this pattern you are noting is NOT 11.3 but rather I suspect it could be is the pattern associated with a massive unprecedented update of KDE from 4.3.1 to 4.3.5.

[malcolmlewis]

@oldcpu

Cloddy;2126430 Wrote:
> Sorry, but I don’t understand your response. The apparent 11.3
> versions of the “patterns” modules are on the 11.2 update repo -
> nothing to do with factory at all
Indeed, hence my second post. What makes you think these are 11.3
versions and not updates to 11.2 for the new KDE update from KDE-4.3.1
to KDE-4.3.5 ?

Hi
Reported it on the openSUSE user mailing list, seems strange to me to
have 11.3 patterns in the 11.2 update repository…

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[malcolmlewis]

@malcolmlewis

@oldcpu

Cloddy;2126430 Wrote:
> Sorry, but I don’t understand your response. The apparent 11.3
> versions of the “patterns” modules are on the 11.2 update repo -
> nothing to do with factory at all
Indeed, hence my second post. What makes you think these are 11.3
versions and not updates to 11.2 for the new KDE update from KDE-4.3.1
to KDE-4.3.5 ?

Hi
Reported it on the openSUSE user mailing list, seems strange to me to
have 11.3 patterns in the 11.2 update repository…

Back from the mailing list;

“Coolo, Stephan Kulow, advised yesterday that it was an oversight that
would cause no harm.”

–
Cheers Malcolm °¿° (Linux Counter #276890)
SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 11 (x86_64) Kernel 2.6.27.42-0.1-default
up 16 days 14:59, 4 users, load average: 0.11, 0.17, 0.13
GPU GeForce 8600 GTS Silent - CUDA Driver Version: 190.53

[russlar]

@oldcpu

At the risk of telling “those of you” to close the barn door after the horse is gone, I would have said STAY AWAY FROM FACTORY. This was self inflicted.

Index of /repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Factory:/Desktop/openSUSE_11.2

Index of /repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Community/openSUSE_11.2_KDE4_Factory_Desktop

Those are both 11.2 repos… just factory KDE4.4 desktop…

Not sure how this would effect the packages coming from the 11.2 update repo.

[russlar]

@malcolmlewis

Back from the mailing list;

“Coolo, Stephan Kulow, advised yesterday that it was an oversight that
would cause no harm.”

Thanks for the heads up. Are they going to change the versions on those packages to avoid future confusion?

[Wilson_Phillips]

If they advised yesterday, why couldn’t they come to the forums and advise here, so that everyone would have a heads up on this? That’s not asking too much.

[Wilson_Phillips]

Even putting it on the News section of the opensuse.org home page that doesn’t seem to get updated very often.

[user]

russlar wrote:

>
> All,
> I just ran zypper -lu, and all the patterns-openSUSE packages want
> to be updated to 11.3-1.1.1 from 11.2-20.22.1.
>
> what’s up with that?
>
>
Did anyone see the announcement on opensuse.org.news.tech-news
marked Attention All KDE Users. Saying:
16-Feb-2010 09:05

<quote>

KDE SC 4.3.5 is about to become available for openSUSE 11.2 as an
online update (from 4.3.1). This release fixes many bugs, so we
decided to push it as an online update instead of making it an
optional update in the Build Service, and by fixing bugs we give our
KDE contributors more time …]

‘More…’
(http://news.opensuse.org/2010/02/16/attention-all-kde-users/)
</Quote>

I already have KDE 4.3.5 and its been fairly STABLE from the
begining.

–
Russ
| openSUSE 11.2 (2.6.31.12-0.1-desktop) x86_64 | KDE 4.3.5 release 3
| Intel Core 2 Dual E7200 | 4 GB RAM | GeForce 8400 GS | 320GB Disc
(2) |

[malcolmlewis]

@russlar

Thanks for the heads up. Are they going to change the versions on those
packages to avoid future confusion?

Hi
Here is some more;

[QUOTE]
The version change was an unhappy mistake. The pattern-openSUSE packages
in the 11.2-update repo are the correct one for openSUSE 11.2, although
they have the version number 11.3

Don’t worry. This inadvertent version number raising doesn’t brake
anything and it is not an upgrade to 11.3

Greetings,
chris

openSUSE Maintenance Team

--
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SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 11 (x86_64) Kernel 2.6.27.42-0.1-default
up 16 days 19:02, 4 users, load average: 0.29, 0.15, 0.16
GPU GeForce 8600 GTS Silent - CUDA Driver Version: 190.53

[cguetot]

Hi all,

I think the easiest way to upgrade OpenSUSE 11.2 to 11.3 is following the instructions of this link

How To Upgrade To openSUSE 11.3 Milestone 4 | Liberian Geek

humbly,