So, now it’s been a while since 11.2 was released. I have found myself reinstalling it a few times until I got satisfied. The reason for that is that after solving various issues I had, I wanted to get rid of the packages etc. I used during experimentation and that wasn’t needed anymore.
Anyways, what are you enjoying the most with 11.2 and what issues do you still have/what broke?
I made the KDE -> Gnome switch during the installation of 11.2 as well, so I had a hard time with PulseAudio. After trying everything I could to get Skype working along with other applications I gave up and installed OSS 4.2 which solved the problem. Now I don’t have audio support (it seems) in every Gnome application, but at least in those I run (Wine, VLC, Skype etc.). To bad Totem wouldn’t give me sound with gstreamer, but I don’t have any hard feelings against VLC.
I do like the openSUSE look of Gnome. The ATI drivers work (as good as they can at least).
I can’t really complain about much in 11.2. I have a working desktop system and have no reason at all to go back to Windows.
My major issue at the moment is trying to get xmonad to coexist with XFCE, but not affect KDE.
I can get xmonad and XFCE to play nicely together, but every time I run KDE I have xmonad and Kwin running simultaneously, which is predictably disastrous.
I suspect much more experimenting is in order, so I’m going to start again from the GM, and see how I go…
Obviously, this is nothing to do with SUSE 11.2 whatsoever… it’s to do with me wanting to run silly unusual window managers and multiple desktops - but hey…
Normally I do a clean install twice a year. This time I did an upgrade, although I already had most packages for 11.2 and KDE 4.3.x still a lot of things get broken.
I mean; Skype, screensaver settings, fstab, mtab etc.
Actually all packages that I installed myself after the last clean install.
Sound was gone…
Webcam was gone…
Printer was gone and the driver for HP-PSC 2350 gone…
etc.
These are the moments I hate Linux/openSuSE.
Ok, OK, I have it all fixed in a few hours (well most) and the rest after a few days.
But why ?
Why is my question, I keep the same /home dir and there is no reason to reset sound/webcam/printer.
Only problem I have is Scribus looks like rubbish.
Seems to be lacking the ability to pick up the theme.
Tried configuring via qtconfig, but it doesn’t accept
anything from there either.
Other than that it is wonderful. I have it running on two
machines at present. No install problems, both on nVidia hardware.
Both Intel based machines. P4 vintage.
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> So, now it’s been a while since 11.2 was released. I have found myself
> reinstalling it a few times until I got satisfied. The reason for that
> is that after solving various issues I had, I wanted to get rid of the
> packages etc. I used during experimentation and that wasn’t needed
> anymore.
>
> Anyways, what are you enjoying the most with 11.2 and what issues do
> you still have/what broke?
>
> I made the KDE -> Gnome switch during the installation of 11.2 as well,
> so I had a hard time with PulseAudio. After trying everything I could to
> get Skype working along with other applications I gave up and installed
> OSS 4.2 which solved the problem. Now I don’t have audio support (it
> seems) in every Gnome application, but at least in those I run (Wine,
> VLC, Skype etc.). To bad Totem wouldn’t give me sound with gstreamer,
> but I don’t have any hard feelings against VLC.
>
> I do like the openSUSE look of Gnome. The ATI drivers work (as good as
> they can at least).
>
> I can’t really complain about much in 11.2. I have a working desktop
> system and have no reason at all to go back to Windows.
>
>
Despite a few bugs that seemed to fix themselves, 11.2 has been splendid.
11.2 is certainly my distro for the next 6 months until Ubuntu Lucid Lynx 10.04LTS comes out.
What has me hooked is how well KDE 4.3 is integrated, perhaps my best KDE 4 experience so far though I still think KDE 4.3 is very unstable compared to KDE 4.2
In terms of functionality 4.3 is just about where I want it, but in terms of stability sorry but 4.2 was more stable.
Its the amount of crashes I have bumped into that makes me wonder about 4.3, granted its improved a lot in functionality but in terms of stability its got some work to do.
But I am hoping for 4.4, hoping it will bring me both stability and functionality.
Why not remove them with the software manager? Whilst automatic ‘orphan’ detection to remove unneeded dependancies isn’t there yet (just in Fate & Bugzilla), removing the large packages is easy; especially if you keep a note of packages installed when experimenting. It won’t let you remove something required by another package, so it’s safe to get rid of things.
Wow! I only just wiped openSUSE 10.3 & I had a box with SuSE 8.2 still useable until last year. I don’t need to re-install a release, they just keep going. I’m not even that good at moving to a new release, most of the main reasons to upgrade are made available by OBS.
I have 11.2 on 4 PCs (more than I originally planned by this time) and thus far all is going well, albeit there is more that I have still yet to figure out or complete. I had some hiccups that I had thought might be 11.2 problems, but turned out it was something else.
Could not boot X
. sandbox PC, after 4 days with openSUSE-11.2 refused to boot to X, but kept giving me the log in over and over. After rebooting to run level 3 (where I could log in) I discovered problem to be 4 files in /var/log taking up 25GB of hard drive space, effectively filling the hard drive! Further investigation indicated a bad network print job that was hung, was filling the log file at massive rate of errors. Killing the print job and deleting the 4 massive files, restored the boot capability. The reason I did not know about the problem, is I told the openSUSE installer NOT to send me system email/notifications, and hence I never received a warning of the impending problem. mea cupla and not the fault of 11.2.
sftp speed
. PC with print server was incredibly slow for sftp transfers. Turns out it was the above problem, clogging the print server PC bandwidth with useless warning messages. Once again, mea cupla and not the fault of 11.2
ATI graphics
: wife’s PC with old ATI graphic hardware works well with openGL driver and no special desktop effects. But if I enable desktop effects, the display deteriorates. This worked in 11.1, so the openGL graphic driver for 11.2 has problems. Nothing serious, but a fix would be nice.
Web cam:
Phillips web cam works ok under amsn but not with any other app (cheese, nor ffmpeg, nor mencoder). I have not figured out why, but I suspect v4l application is the cause of the problem.
Packman packaged MPlayer for wma format.
libxine1 and vlc will play .wma audio files but Packman MPlayer will not (only gives scratching sound). But packman packagers can not reproduce the problem (despite a number of us experiencing this). Hence any fix has been slow coming. Not an 11.2 problem per se.
Firewire interface not recognized
. This happened on one 11.2 PC, where firewire interface to external drive not recognized. External drive did NOT show up in “fdisk -l” . I tried external firewire drive on another 11.2 PC and it worked perfect. I need to re-investigate problem with 1st PC. Still under investigation.
I’m still waiting for a proprietary Virtual Box rpm (although I may just install via the script/binary) to test Virtual Box. Also waiting for an rpm of the proprietary nx to test nx.
What was I happy to see work?
vnc
. vnc works fine from 11.2 to 11.2 PC.
Special desktop effects
(the cube rotation) works well on all 3 PCs with nVidia graphic cards (PCI 8400GS, AGP FX5200, PCI-3 GTX260).
All 4 PCs appear snappier with 11.2 than with 11.1 (possibly due to EXT4 file system).
My wife’s **Epson scanner **
was a breeze to configure under 11.2, compared to the pain of every other openSUSE release.
Network Printing
. I was able to setup network printing (using IP) with YaST gui for the first time. On all previous openSUSE releases I need to copy config files from /etc/cups of previoius openSUSE versions. Both winXP PCs and Linux PCs can print via the IP protocol to the openSUSE-11.2 PC with the printer. I do note I caused a problem by leaving a hung print job in the print queue (see above).
KDE-4.3.1 on 11.2 appears stable
, … just as stable as KDE-4.3.2 on 11.1 with openSUSE community KDE updates
I still need to test 11.2 wine with virtual box/deshaker plugin. Also still waiting for many apps to be packaged by Packman, although my gut feel compared to previous years is they have more packaged now after 1 week, than they did in previous openSUSE releases after 2 weeks.
@Taralkeda: from various posts, I get the idea that a lot of things you describe as bugs, instability come from your own homedir. A clean install will do one thing, a clean .kde4 for example will do a lot too. Just this example: from 4.1.0 to 4.2.0 changes were made in plasma. These changes are not always maintained in the plasmoids. This can result in plasma-crashes or even a non running desktop. On my laptop a reconfiguration of KDE4 made logging in and off seconds faster. But I don’t have to bother about mail etc. since I use Opera.
AFAICS now, after dozens of installs, the comments of users in networks I manage, the Ubuntu 9.10 switchers around me, openSUSE has produced THE linux distro of the year. Anywhere I can vote for this, I will.
Mind you it won’t compile and neither does the .rpm if you download it manually.
** Compiling vboxdrv
Makefile:150: Warning: using /usr/src/linux as the source directory of your Linux kernel. If this is not correct, specify KERN_DIR=<directory> and run Make again.
make KBUILD_VERBOSE= -C /usr/src/linux SUBDIRS=/tmp/vbox.0 SRCROOT=/tmp/vbox.0 modules
ERROR: Kernel configuration is invalid.
include/linux/autoconf.h or include/config/auto.conf are missing.
Run 'make oldconfig && make prepare' on kernel src to fix it.
WARNING: Symbol version dump /usr/src/linux-2.6.31.5-0.1/Module.symvers
is missing; modules will have no dependencies and modversions.
/tmp/vbox.0/Makefile:150: Warning: using /usr/src/linux as the source directory of your Linux kernel. If this is not correct, specify KERN_DIR=<directory> and run Make again.
CC [M] /tmp/vbox.0/linux/SUPDrv-linux.o
/tmp/vbox.0/linux/SUPDrv-linux.c:1: error: code model ‘kernel’ not supported in the 32 bit mode
/tmp/vbox.0/linux/SUPDrv-linux.c:1: sorry, unimplemented: 64-bit mode not compiled in
make[2]: *** [/tmp/vbox.0/linux/SUPDrv-linux.o] Error 1
make[1]: *** [_module_/tmp/vbox.0] Error 2
make: *** [vboxdrv] Error 2
>> You’ll have logged these to bugzilla then?
>> Otherwise your comments are more or less hyperbole.
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> I filed a few bug reports here and there so I am covered.
I’m just glad I’m not you guys, I haven’t seen a KDE induced
crash since 4.1.
11.2 has been the best release on my text boxes, ever. Not a single component failed to work out of the box and not a single crash - the only thing I have managed to crash was Dolphin once because I had an outdated Audacious integration plugin in it.
Updated to 4.3.3 and it’s smoking good.
Oh and I installed it twice, another installation for GNOME for writing that Audigy / X-Fi guide I promised to do…
No I cleaned out the .kde4 directory before installing 11.2, whatever is causing my crashes must be something else.
Maybe its a config somewhere, I dunno.
Hard to say where my issue is coming from.
