I am using OpenSUSE 11.2 32 bit for my acer laptop 2420 and 64 bit for my Del Studio 17-in Laptop and Pentium extreme Quad core PC. I found that it could detect most devices in all the machines which is the positive side.
The negative side is that I found our old entries are missing which is highly disappointing. I could not find gnuplot (which is daily bread and butter), xmgrace, xv etc. We use linux in scientific community as it understands our requirements. It is difficult to digest all the reasons for excluding those entries. All the interest was given either to games or to web/server/IT prog development. Lot of people from scientific community enhanced LINUX to bring it to present shape and there should not be any reason to remove programs of their needs. Disgusiting.
Thanks for the reply. I installed from DVD. OSS repository comes into play if I download from Internet which I don’t want now. I want to install everything from DVD only. By the by, OSS and other repositories are enabled - I checked.
Well it’s most likely because they simply can’t fit everything on the DVD - gnuplot etc. are clearly included in the OSS repository.
You could make a mirror of the oss repo on a local server and install all files from there - that’s the best solution I can give you. The overall download for the entire repo + update is about 15GB (I make it myself everytime the distribution gets released).
vegaonline wrote:
> I could not find gnuplot (which is daily bread and
> butter), xmgrace, xv etc. … Disgusiting.
not so fast scienceguy:
you didn’t look very hard huh?
did you try searching in YaST for any of those?
or just type into a terminal (for example)
zypper in gnuplot+xmgrace+xv
i don’t have 11.2 here to check, but i’d be astounded if those
programs and THOUSANDS of others are not just an install away…
i can go to http://software.opensuse.org/search and search for
gnuplot, xmgrace, and xv and find that ALL of those are readily
available for a one click install via the net…
the only thing disgusting here is your (apparent) desire that the
things YOU need are automatically installed for everyone, every time…
I suggest you to check 11.2 first. Those packages I need can be installed automatically if you choose to install everything ZZZ which is not the default case. My desire is not to install everything automatically. My desire is that all those packages must be in DVD so that if required I can install them.
The disgusting thing is that without understanding my statement, you commented.
vegaonline wrote:
> I replied to Palladium AND NOT TO Chrysantine. Pl. don’t think wrongly.
still, you think the openSUSE world should revolve around YOUR needs
and wants!
HELLO! the DVD can’t possibly be big enough to fit every person’s
wants and need…just about everyone has to use the repos eventually…
that you don’t want to just now, is not my problem…it is YOURS!
Pl. talk sensibly. If you can give more than CD for CD version, who forces you not to make more than one DVD? Linux has no limit. If you think about limitation, jump to Microsoft.
> Pl. talk sensibly. If you can give more than CD for CD version, who
> forces you not to make more than one DVD? Linux has no limit.
DistroWatch <http://distrowatch.com/> lists 305 different
distributions…number 41 on today’s list is named Scientific
<http://distrowatch.com/scientific> and according to the info on
DistroWatch it has NONE of your “daily bread and butter” applications
included…
which is simply disgusting…
i suggest you join their mail list and tell them…
i’m sure they WANT to know exactly how to please you and will change
their packaging immediately.
> If you think about limitation, jump to Microsoft.
what is this Microsoft? i have none of that…do they package gnuplot,
xmgrace, xv and etc? write them too…i’m sure Redmond is eager to
hear from you.
> Well it’s most likely because they simply can’t fit everything on the
> DVD - gnuplot etc. are clearly included in the OSS repository.
>
> You could make a mirror of the oss repo on a local server and install
> all files from there - that’s the best solution I can give you. The
> overall download for the entire repo + update is about 15GB (I make it
> myself everytime the distribution gets released).
I think his point is, he wants everything packaged so he has suggested
multiple-DVD’s, which I can see his point. OS used to ship many CD’s, as
the amount of open source materials increase it makes sense to package more
DVD’s. So OS has 2 install DVD’s instead of one. Eventually Blu-Ray will be
required. Not going to argue, just pointing out what may happen. It was
also a reason that I used to justify splitting the DE’s into separate
installations to reduce download size, particularly as each DE expands and
gains new applications of their own. The shoebox method will fail
eventually, or result in ‘left out’ or cherry picked applications. This
persons post only reflects what is already happening.
