When invoking my fresh 11.1 installation’s update function (after having initialized the update service) and rebooting after it has finished, the system doesn’t display the login screen anymore, but loops between displaying the X server’s X shaped cursor and the “wait” cursor (disk with rotating black dots).
I was told the update changes the X server which renders any proprietary gfx drivers inoperable, so I tried to be smart and install the proprietary gfx driver only after applying the updates. But it seems hardware acceleration is already available right after the initial OS installation w/o my explicitly installing an ATI driver, which makes me wonder whether such a driver is installed by the 11.1 installer. In that case there’s probably trouble ahead.
You can tell what driver you have installed by typing:
grep -i driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf
You can check which graphic modes are available with your installed driver by typing:
xrandr
Typically, for nvidia graphics, the drivers are:
vesa - the vesa driver - low perforance but VERY hard to break
nv - the opensource openGL driver (typically installed by default - typically difficult to break … );
nvidia - the proprietary nvidia driver (typically requires one do a custom install of the proprietary driver - easy to break but gives best performance)
I hope that helps you determine a bit better what you have setup.
As I said previously, you need to reinstall drivers each time X or kernel is updated. Sadly, you’re on ATI (and I can’t help much on this) which has probably the most broken drivers for Linux. It’s them failing, not Linux itself. NV is lightyears ahead when it comes to drivers
The propriatery ATI driver you only need if the internal X radeon driver doesn’t offer HW acceleration for your card and you need it. If it does, there’s no real need to install the ATI proprietary driver as both it and radeon from X offer similar performance
If HW acceleration is already available just after install, it means the X readon driver supports 3D acceleration for your card so no need to mess with cr@ppy ATI prop drivers (how did you check you had accel after OS install, btw?)
Also read this before going on a wild goosechase yourself and messing with stuff you don’t get yet ATI - openSUSE
… and if you can’t get into your system because of the broken graphics, type the numeral ‘3’ at the grub screen (where you choose between normal boot and failsafe), then hit return to select normal ‘openSUSE’. It should boot into ‘text only’ mode. To reset again safely, type
vesa - the vesa driver - low perforance but VERY hard to break
ati - really ancient opensource driver
radeon - openGL opensource driver - can be installed by openSUSE , more difficult to break than proprietary driver
radeonhd - openGL opensource driver - can be installed by openSUSE , more difficult to break than proprietary driver
*]fglxr - proprietary ATI driver - one has to set this up themselves. Typically better performance, but easier to break
Thanks for the replies so far. The proprietary drivers I use are “fglxr”. It gives me about 30,000 fps with glxgears. The current one only yields about 20,000.
The system survived the update, so I reckon the installed driver survived it and I can now proceed to setup my system.
it’s his choice. If he yet again breaks something and comes to rant about how SUSE or Linux is responsible but at the same time didn’t even knew why something acts like this, I won’t be here helping anymore. Too bad others will jump in and try to enlighten him. It’s a hopeless case I’ve seen too many times
Sadly, it seems that it’s becoming a trend recently for newbies or outsiders to just come over here and start bashing, ranting and trolling about SUSE and breaking every single rule the forum has. And the funny thing is, when you fire back, they claim they had so many experience with Linux or programming in general. That’s a very contradictorily statement when you see they didn’t even know that they had to reinstall something after a certain update of a graphical system. Just look in the past half year. How many ranters did we get? A lot! By whom? newbies and people claiming this or that. I have yet to see a decent rant by some of the regulars around here who have a lot of Linux experience… hmmm, makes you wonder
The funny thing is that when they come here, you can clearly read in their rants that they have no clue what they were doing, broke the system or didn’t even knew that they had to update something so instead they all blame it on SUSE.
Great! And it took me only three times to tell you to stay away. Let me rob you of the illusion you were helpful before we finally part. You were not. All you did was to bolster your ego by giving smartassed hints about things not significant here, because there was nothing else left for you by others who had been what you are not: Helpful and kind.
Happy butt kissing. People like you have to do everything to get some “friends”.
Just to make that clear: It was you who broke forum rules here by personally insulting others. Apparently you are not just a stalker, but also a habitual liar.
lmao more lies, huh? Butt kissing? I don’t even know Havoc. I only know him superficially from the forum as he’s a regular, I don’t even have him on my friends list nor do I personally talk to him. Don’t believe me? check my profile. Get your “facts” straight first before going on wild assumptions, mmmmkay pumpkin?
Also, you broke the rules first by coming here and ranting, lying and making baseless accusation. And stalker? wow you really know how to blow things out of proportion. Thanks for the good laugh though rotfl!
Let me rob you of the illusion you were helpful before we finally part. You were not. All you did was to bolster your ego by giving smartassed hints about things not significant here, because there was nothing else left for you by others who had been what you are not: Helpful and kind.
Really? Let’s see. Who told you you need to reinstall drivers each time X or kernel is updated? and not only that but also explained the reason why?
Who told you that there are other ways to check acceleration support and not just glxgears?
who told you that glxgears is not a benchmark and you shouldn’t rely on it to know if your acceleration is working?
Who pointed you to the ATI SUSE wiki link with instructions how to deal with ATI cards under Linux?
hmmm, lets see, oh it was me. you’re right, I’m very delusional
