I have installed openSuSE 11.1 on 3 systems with kde 4 and all 3 are different.
I have one ThinkPad (1.13GHz) with 10.3 and kde 3 on it and well it smokes!
My problem:
the thinkpad and 2 generic AMD (1 1700+ and one 2400+) systems rock with 11.1 and kde4, but…
I have a NetVista (IBM) with a 1.5GHz P4 processor and a 32MB nVidia card (old stuff i know, but that’s what Was nice about Linux… it worked) and 128MB 133 RAM…
It (the NetVista) is So SLOW!!!
Everytime i move the mouse it’s hitting the HDD (hard disk drive) and i have to wait and wait and wait… Switching desktops takes forever etc… It’s Always on the HDD… Forget using FireFox. The system info says it’s running (the processor) at 1,43xx.xx something MHz (just under 1.5GHz) Why is it so SLOW?
I wont even go into KDE4… It SUCKS! I can’t edit Anything… I don’t want every app in the taskbar from every desktop… What the **** good are multiple desktops if your taskbar is ****ing full of apps???
told you i shouldn’t go into KDE… It Sucks. enough said.
KDE 4 trying to out do MSucks? Giving us very little control. So i feel.
Anyways, whys is the P4 so **** slow???
Any ideas? ps, the HDD is a small 30Gig 27.xxGB and an 800+/- MB swap…
> p.s., what is Xfce and Lxde? guess i could look them up : )
caf always gives good advice…and, you may find happiness with
openSUSE and one of those low resource using desktop environments he
mentioned…
if not, which SO little RAM (both main and video) you may need to go
to some other distro…but, even with them you may need to pump up
both RAM sets…here is my usual response to folks who wanna run
machines with museum piece RAM levels:
i’ve not actually run any of these more than a few minutes, but i hear
they might do what you need:
[try first!] Puppy Linux. <http://www.puppylinux.org/> Needs 64MB
RAM for versions before 1.0.2. More recent versions need 128MB RAM and
166MHZ CPU
Elive <http://www.elivecd.org/> (has Enlightenment window manager).
Needs 100MHz CPU and 64MB of RAM for one of the older versions. More
recent version needs a faster CPU and more RAM
DSL (D**N Small Linux).<http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/> needs 16MB
RAM on a fast 486 CPU. But that will be slow!! Better off with 64 MB
RAM and a Pentium with 200MHZ CPU
Vector Linux. <http://vectorlinux.com/> Needs 32MB RAM and 166MHZ
CPU. I suspect much more RAM is desirable.
-SliTaz <http://www.slitaz.org/> When it runs, the 25 MB compressed CD
image expands to about 80 MB, so any computer with 128 MB of RAM will
be able to load it fully into memory, ensuring blazing fast program
execution.
landis wrote:
> I have installed openSuSE 11.1 on 3 systems with kde 4 and all 3 are
> different.
> I have one ThinkPad (1.13GHz) with 10.3 and kde 3 on it and well it
> smokes!
> My problem:
> the thinkpad and 2 generic AMD (1 1700+ and one 2400+) systems rock
> with 11.1 and kde4, but…
> I have a NetVista (IBM) with a 1.5GHz P4 processor and a 32MB nVidia
> card (old stuff i know, but that’s what Was nice about Linux… it
> worked) and 128MB 133 RAM…
> It (the NetVista) is So SLOW!!!
You do understand that a 1.5Ghz P4 is about the same as a 800Mhz or
so PIII right? That’s a very low end processor.
However, the main problem is likely the 128MB. I’m afraid KDE4, possibly
even KDE3, might not be a good solution anymore… at least not with
11.x.
I don’t have a good answer except to possibly get more memory and realize
you’re actually using a machine that’s slower than even the slowest
netbooks out there.
caf4926, palladium, cjcox and the rest of you,
Thank you all for your input.
I’ve been running Linux since 1992,3 something.
I’ve Always thought of Linux as small, light and fast.
Guess Everything has gotten Bigger with xml…
You all gave me good advice, but i think it would be best if i stuck with SuSE (been using since 4 or 5) and 9, Novell having aquired it, as a former CNE, Love Novell, what ever. I like SuSE (openSuSE).
Anyway, memory is less expensive than icecream these days. I have a bunch of memory, but none will work in the IBM… nothing new there. I would think pc133 is p133… again, not with ibm…
p.s., cjcox, No i did not know it was less than PIII 800.
I have my old workstation, an HP setting here with dual PIII-800’s… would that work??? is the 1GB ?Rambus MEM? ok with SuSE?
and as far as you’r saying faster than notebooks, that’s one of the things i was wondering about and thought something was wrong. i have a thinkpad t23 and it’s a 1.13GHz and goes along just fine… Thanks.
microchip8,
it does run and even works, ff and everything… just takes days to do it. LOL.
As i said, when i move the mouse so it does not ‘fall asleep’, the hdd goes to work, not the pc… lol again.
On Mon, 2009-10-19 at 01:16 +0000, landis wrote:
…
> p.s., cjcox, No i did not know it was less than PIII 800.
> I have my old workstation, an HP setting here with dual PIII-800’s…
> would that work??? is the 1GB ?Rambus MEM? ok with SuSE?
I would think that a dual 800Mhz PIII system with 1G would do fine.
The P4 was simply designed for the megahertz race. The
Core (contemporary) designs are more PIII-ish.
There are a couple of cases where the higher clock frequency
matters… but overall, you’ll probably get more out of the
dual PIII system.
Put a couple of dual 1.4Ghz PIII’s in it and you’ll best
many dual Xeon 3.0Ghz machines out there…
On Mon, 2009-10-19 at 22:16 +0000, cjcox wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-10-19 at 01:16 +0000, landis wrote:
> …
> > p.s., cjcox, No i did not know it was less than PIII 800.
> > I have my old workstation, an HP setting here with dual PIII-800’s…
> > would that work??? is the 1GB ?Rambus MEM? ok with SuSE?
>
> I would think that a dual 800Mhz PIII system with 1G would do fine.
>
> The P4 was simply designed for the megahertz race. The
> Core (contemporary) designs are more PIII-ish.
>
> There are a couple of cases where the higher clock frequency
> matters… but overall, you’ll probably get more out of the
> dual PIII system.
>
> Put a couple of dual 1.4Ghz PIII’s in it and you’ll best
> many dual Xeon 3.0Ghz machines out there…
>
>
Granted, it might appear that the 1.4Ghz P4 does well against
the 1Ghz PIII, but even so, the number on these synthetic tests
do show the PIII winning in some cases. I’m basing my opinion
on my own experience with the P4 and P4-ish Xeons.
I had some DL380G2 platforms with dual 1.2Ghz PIII Xeons that
seemed to perform much better than the DL380G3 with even 2.4Ghz
P4 style Xeons in it. YMMV of course.
Well, baught me another simm…
I’m loving it…
I really didn’t want to get rid of the ‘pretty’ black IBM WS.
It’s old but the old ones have always been great Linux WS’.
Now this one is too.
I have it running nicely so when my Mom comes up to visit, she can use it… she’ll never know it’s Linux.
Thanks to all who had something to say, to all i say, i like it.
(oepnSuSE, 11.1 - KDE 4). Just wish i could edit things more easly.
p.s, you’ve got to try ‘Namoroka’ (firefox 3.6b2 pre)… Nice.
just can’t figure out how to change the language to Russian (Руссийка).
cjcox,
it’s running nicely with added memory.
the dual PIII 800, can’t get it to boot, sees the drives, but that’s it… will not boot to any of them in any configuration…
i think the controller (onboard) is bad. have a ATA SCSI controller that reports DVD…
Nope !!!
Still locked up… no ctrl esc, kill, no ctrl f# for desktops, Nothing…
this time it took an hour or so to lock up (freeze).
worked fine in the meen time.
Any ideas?
the other day i noticed that the usb mouse would lagg badly when first moved, after being idel for some time, so i shut down and attached a ps/2 mouse, seemed to work fine… but that was a few days ago…
i’m digging most of 11.1 with KDE 4 and Namoroka (FireFox 3.6b.2pre)…
still don’t like the lack of drag n drop in a lot of things, but mostly in konqueror4… Dolphin Sucks!
p.s., i’m using the IBM P4, added memory and it is Rock Solid!
Not worries here.
