OpenSuSE 11.1 Gnome and Desktop Effects vs. KMail

I resolved my (Intel) based lack of working desktop effects and other
screwy video problems by installing an nVidia card. Now I have Gnome and
desktop effects working fine with one exception: KMail.

When KMail starts, it goes to the full screen, with no window
decorations, and disables desktop effects.

Any suggestions? (Comments on why I shouldn’t want desktop effects will
be ignored.) I’m not totally opposed to switching from KMail to Evolution
if I have to. I got used to KMail with my old setup (SuSE 9.2/KDE), but I
don’t like the new version as much as the old one.

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David Gersic adjusted his/her AFDB on Friday 19 Jun 2009 16:29 to write:

> I resolved my (Intel) based lack of working desktop effects and other
> screwy video problems by installing an nVidia card. Now I have Gnome and
> desktop effects working fine with one exception: KMail.
>
> When KMail starts, it goes to the full screen, with no window
> decorations, and disables desktop effects.
>
> Any suggestions? (Comments on why I shouldn’t want desktop effects will
> be ignored.) I’m not totally opposed to switching from KMail to Evolution
> if I have to. I got used to KMail with my old setup (SuSE 9.2/KDE), but I
> don’t like the new version as much as the old one.
>
>

IIRC there is a setting in the compiz control to fix the missing decorations
for KDE apps, but I do not run gnome or compiz so I have no idea where it is
:slight_smile:

Just have a look about or else someone might jump in with the right place.

HTH

Mark

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On Fri, 19 Jun 2009 22:14:06 +0000, baskitcaise wrote:

> IIRC there is a setting in the compiz control to fix the missing
> decorations for KDE apps, but I do not run gnome or compiz so I have no
> idea where it is

Any idea what it might be called? I don’t see anything in there that
looks likely.

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Hi, which version of compiz-fusion are you using?

You can find out by opening a terminal and typing:

compiz --version

Good Luck,

Ian

David Gersic adjusted his/her AFDB on Saturday 20 Jun 2009 16:29 to write:

> On Fri, 19 Jun 2009 22:14:06 +0000, baskitcaise wrote:
>
>> IIRC there is a setting in the compiz control to fix the missing
>> decorations for KDE apps, but I do not run gnome or compiz so I have no
>> idea where it is
>
> Any idea what it might be called? I don’t see anything in there that
> looks likely.
>
>

I am not sure I don`t have compiz here, but IIRC there might be a section
under Workrounds for QT???

Also it might be down the window decs you have set for the QT apps, the one
time I did try compiz I think I had to set the decs to a theme tht was
compat with it.

But that was ages ago so might be completely out of date info

I just did a google for compiz+qt+deorations+missing and got this:

http://tinyurl.com/mklw2p

Have a look at the archlinux result, might help but I cannot test as I don`t
do Gnome or compiz.

HTH

Mark

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On Sat, 20 Jun 2009 16:16:02 +0000, ijbreakey wrote:

> Hi, which version of compiz-fusion are you using?

dgersic@linux:~> compiz --version
compiz 0.7.8

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Alright, try opening up CompizConfig Settings Manager (CCSM) and Under Utility, Workarounds should be checked. Then go into it and make sure Legacy Fullscreen Support is UNCHECKED. I think that should do the trick.

Unless when you say the desktop effects are disabled, there’s a message that pops up that says desktop effects have been disabled. This should work if that’s not the case.

Good Luck,

Ian

On Sun, 21 Jun 2009 15:56:01 +0000, ijbreakey wrote:

> Alright, try opening up CompizConfig Settings Manager (CCSM) and Under
> Utility, Workarounds should be checked. Then go into it and make sure
> Legacy Fullscreen Support is UNCHECKED. I think that should do the
> trick.

Ah, ha. Thanks, that did the trick!

> Unless when you say the desktop effects are disabled, there’s a message
> that pops up that says desktop effects have been disabled.

No, no message pop up. Just going back in to SCCSM and finding the
“enable” box unchecked.

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On Sun, 21 Jun 2009 15:56:01 +0000, ijbreakey wrote:

> Alright, try opening up CompizConfig Settings Manager (CCSM) and Under
> Utility, Workarounds should be checked. Then go into it and make sure
> Legacy Fullscreen Support is UNCHECKED. I think that should do the
> trick.

I spoke too soon. It does half the trick. I can now start Kmail without
desktop effects shutting down, but now when I exit Kmail, desktop effects
dies again. Same as before, there’s no warning or anything, just it’s no
longer enabled and going in to the SCCSM tool finds the “enable desktop
effects” box unchecked.

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Hmm… whereas 0.7.8 should be working for you, you could always try upgrading to 0.8.2 since it does have some bugfixes.

You can follow this threads advice for that (don’t get rid of the fusion-icon as it still works with 0.8.2):

Compiz hell ? Need help - openSUSE Forums

Good Luck,

Ian

FWIW when I moved from KDE3 to Gnome, I was hesitant about KMail versus Evolution.

Fortunately, when I plucked up the courage to try it, Evolution imported my KMail folders no problem, just some mouse clicking needed.

OTOH, if you do get KMail working under Gnome, that’s good too.

On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 05:36:05 +0000, ijbreakey wrote:

> Hmm… whereas 0.7.8 should be working for you, you could always try
> upgrading to 0.8.2 since it does have some bugfixes.

Upgraded to 0.8.2 and that seems to have done it. I can now start, and
exit, Kmail without compiz crashing.

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On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 08:06:02 +0000, KJ44 wrote:

> FWIW when I moved from KDE3 to Gnome, I was hesitant about KMail versus
> Evolution.

At this point, I don’t really like Kmail or Evolution, so I’m just
sticking with what I’m most used to. I have Kmail as the mail front end,
but the mail gathering and delivery are done via fetchmail/procmail and
filtered through SpamAssassin before Kmail ever sees it. I’d have to
figure out how to do that with Evolution.

I liked Kmail in KDE3. The changes in it for KDE4 are what I don’t like.

> Fortunately, when I plucked up the courage to try it, Evolution imported
> my KMail folders no problem, just some mouse clicking needed.

Interestingly, I did look in to doing this at one point and couldn’t see
where Evolution would import the Kmail maildir at all. Where’s that
hiding, just in case I decide to go that way?

> OTOH, if you do get KMail working under Gnome, that’s good too.

Yep, got it, finally. KMail under Gnome was easy. The problem was getting
KMail + Gnome + compiz working correctly.

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