OpenSuSE 11.0 - Upgrade or Clean Install?

I’m looking forward to the latest OpenSuse and will be an early adopter. I am wondering if anyone has any recommendations regarding a clean install vs. upgrading a current version (10.2)? Thanks.

with you having 10.2, i would recommend a clean install,whilst preserving your /home partition. that way you won’t lose any kde settings

Andy

FWIW, I never upgrade on any platform, always fresh install… If you have a good back-up solution in place for your /home directories and other odds and ends it shouldn’t be that much of an issue. Just the little tweaks after install…

On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:36:03 +0000, mister anderson wrote:

> FWIW, I never upgrade on any platform, always fresh install… If you
> have a good back-up solution in place for your /home directories and
> other odds and ends it shouldn’t be that much of an issue. Just the
> little tweaks after install…

Same here - I did an in-place upgrade of 11.0 from Beta 3 to RC1, but I
don’t like having all the cruft around from old installs if I can avoid
it.

Jim

I always go for clean install. For minimum hassles with clean install and importing your older content:

  1. Have /home on separate partition, so that with clean install you can always format the system / partition, with all data saved on /home partition

  2. Once installed, import all that you need from your older user account to a newer one. Before clean install, I usually rename my account, ex. old_me, then create new /home/me with install, and later import that all is needed.

Has worked for me for several years.

> I don’t like having all the cruft around from old installs if I can avoid
> it.
>
> Jim

For some reason I thought of that engine sludge commercial when I read your
post. :slight_smile:


Vista…Why risk it? Fdisk it!

rgarrick wrote:

>
> I’m looking forward to the latest OpenSuse and will be an early adopter.
> I am wondering if anyone has any recommendations regarding a clean
> install vs. upgrading a current version (10.2)? Thanks.

I cloned a copy of my 10.2 installation from my laptop to the desktop just
to see how the upgrade went. I upgraded the clone with 11.0 RC1 and it
went a lot better than I expected - I lost a few apps like pdksh and some
browser plugins but the result was entirely satisfactory. I suspect it
depends on how many 3rd party apps you have aboard. Since I was just
testing, I just told the installer to ignore all the conflicts expecting to
have some real problems but none have shown up to date. Much better than
the 10.1 -> 10.3 upgrade but I was trying to avoid a few major
re-installation and rebuild hassles so I gave it a go. Even the DB2
database survived intact.

Unless you have some really good reason for not doing a clean install I
wouldn’t try it without testing a clone copy (or making a full backup)
first myself.


Will Honea

Yep, with openSUSE 11, a clean install is the safest course of action. I am putting mission-critical files on a flash drive, then formatting everything. Squeaky-clean install is what I am calling it.

rivenought <rivenought@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> expounded:

> Yep, with openSUSE 11, a clean install is the safest course of action.
> I am putting mission-critical files on a flash drive, then formatting
> everything. Squeaky-clean install is what I am calling it.

I’ve got a MythTV server at home that I intend to bring up from 10.2 to 11.0. I’ve
already compiled a 2.6.25 kernel for it which made certain firewire things function a
lot nicer. But I’d really like to have the full distro to go with it.

Thanks to the buckets of space on the /video partition, I can tar up the / partition
for disaster recovery if it borks up solid.

As for my laptop… don’t know yet what I’m going to do. Probably should flatten and
install, considering it was upgraded from 10.2 as well.


–Borg Consulate–
Cheap backup software, the bane of my existence

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Hi!

Since you talk about keeping /home partition and so on I think I can ask here instead opening a new thread, if I’m wrong please move this post where it should be, tnx!

I will install OS 11 on a 24gb partition.
I’m new to Linux and I need to know how much space I give to / partition and how much to the /home partition.

Because I have XP too all my multimedia files (aka “My Documents”) are stored on another partition on other drive - actually an NTFS partition.

So, the /home partition will we used to store GUI/system preferences, downloaded files to the desktop and so, not as my primary multimedia container.
I think with 3gb i should be right but I don’t know how much space needs Linux and 3rd party apps to store it’s files/settings.

Thanks for the advice!

Go clean mate.

Thankyou for participating in our forum.

You will need a Linux swap partition, possibly 1GByte or so in size, bringing you down to a approximately 23gb. OpenSUSE installer should create the swap partition for you.

If it were me, I would make the split around 50-50, … ie maybe 12GBytes to / and 11 GBytes to /home. Space permitting, I typically like to give / about 15gb, but for your relatively limited 24gb, that is probably too much (hence my 12gb suggestion). I find its easier to add extra space to /home, so if I were in doubt, I would give to /

… but thats just me.

You mean 3GB for your /home? I would not make it that small. Try to keep it up around 8gb to 11gb.

Good luck!

I already have a swap partition with little more than 2gb (I have 1gb ram) so I’ll go for the 15(/) / 8 (/home).

There’s a good review of OS11 at OpenSUSE 11 RC1: The Mercedes-Benz to Ubuntu’s Volkswagen | Between the Lines | ZDNet.com

Just can’t wait to try OS11, the Deluxe Linux distro with 4.5gb of everything you could ever need plus virtualizing made easy out-of-the-box!!

Thanks for your time (=

Thanks to everyone who has responded. I am going to go with a clean install.

I usually give my “/” partition about 6 - 10 GB and that’s worked pretty good for me, but I don’t install too much

I think you raise a good point, … ie how many applications does one install?

I like to play a lot with various multimedia applications, and I typically have anywhere from 250 to 350 3rd party applications installed on my openSUSE. That takes a up a log of hard drive space, so for a user like me, 15GB is a good number for / (with /home having additional space). For a user who sticks with the default packages 6-10GB is good for /.

In fact I have over 500GB in my /home.

I have a 12GB (or maybe its 15GB) partition on my mother’s old PC, which is dedicated to openSUSE, and it has to hold / and /home. Needless to say, I am very careful as to what I install on her PC.

> 1. Have /home on separate partition, so that with clean install you can
> always format the system / partition, with all data saved on /home
> partition

Or as I like to do, put /home on a separate device altogether.
If you have a giant music or photo library or a lot of VM’s in your
home profile this setup on a large drive is very handy and keeps your
OS drive free to do its thing.

I too install lot of apps, thank you all for your advice

How do you preserve your home partition?

chyrania wrote:

>
> deltaflyer44;1815825 Wrote:
>> with you having 10.2, i would recommend a clean install,whilst
>> preserving your /home partition. that way you won’t lose any kde
>> settings
>>
>> Andy
>
> How do you preserve your home partition?
>
>
you should have /home on it’s own partition, separate from /, it’s
considered good Linux practice


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