Ogg Theora, firefox, blip...

warning: this post is consisted of mostly rethorical rants…

I like the codec, to be honest. Not because it is free, but it performs good on lower bitrates and as good as H264, where higher bitrates, my eyes actually cannot see the difference.
As I read, anyways, no matter if codec is free, all cameras use mpeg, so no matter if you repack it in free codec, you’re still under crappy license.

Ok, lets pack in Theora… Good for safekeeping. I read blip.tv supports upload of ogg/ogv… Good… lets test it.

It does, but guess what:

  1. it starts converting it to FLV
  2. Firefox (3.6.3), complains that there is not plugin to see ogg/theora.

a?

What happened to that html5 blah-blah which is all over the web? Firefox does not open theora, not by a longshot, at least here.
Bilp converts it to FLV, and of course, h264.

WTF, is converting to Theora actually worthwile?

beli0135 wrote:
> warning: this post is consisted of mostly rethorical rants…
>
> I like the codec, to be honest. Not because it is free, but it performs
> good on lower bitrates and as good as H264, where higher bitrates, my
> eyes actually cannot see the difference.
> As I read, anyways, no matter if codec is free, all cameras use mpeg,
> so no matter if you repack it in free codec, you’re still under crappy
> license.
>
> Ok, lets pack in Theora… Good for safekeeping. I read blip.tv supports
> upload of ogg/ogv… Good… lets test it.
>
> It does, but guess what:
> 1. it starts converting it to FLV

Well… upload doesn’t mean they preserve the format. Sounds just like youtube
and others. They allow many types to be uploaded, but then they convert it into
their common (and often times, proprietary, patent laden) form.

> 2. Firefox (3.6.3), complains that there is not plugin to see
> ogg/theora.

Not sure what that is. My firefox 3.6.3 starts playing ogg/theora files
immediately.

http://endlessnow.com/ten/Video/samba-ad-os112.ogv

It’s possible that there is something missing in your install/config??
Not sure.

>
> a?
>
> What happened to that html5 blah-blah which is all over the web?
> Firefox does not open theora, not by a longshot, at least here.
> Bilp converts it to FLV, and of course, h264.

flv is NOT h246. flv is a flash container file extension.

>
> WTF, is converting to Theora actually worthwile?
>

It’s the best bet bet right now for a non patent encumbered codec (though there
is some debate there apparently). Google recently acquired the vp8 codec…
it’s possible that becomes a desirable choice in the future.

h246 is more or less hopeless with regards to being legally available in Linux.
Obviously we have the less than legal x264 out there… for those that enhance
their Linux distro without worrying about the legality of such things (encoding
side esp.).