Official and supported parts of Tumbleweed; questions

Hi,
I was upgrading from 13.2 to Tumbleweed, no total success.

Where can I find the list/description of the officially existing (working) and supported parts of the Tumbleweed (mainly servers, desktops and semi-system parts - for example logging -)?
If some parts already are not supported, can I deleted them painlessly?
How can I install (or where can I find) an proper nvidia driver?

Thanks for your help

Every package in Tumbleweed is supported, otherwise it would not be in the repo. At least that’s how I understand the policy.

And regarding your nvidia issue: there is a mountain of complaints about nvidia’s linux drivers, they are, well, suboptimal. I have no idea about a nvidia driver for kernel 4.3.0, please consider searching at software.opensuse.org .

Hmmm… none of the desktops are worked after upgrade (and I can not install some of them also)… and there are concurrent applications such as syslog subsystems.
If a program works it is not sure that it can be cooperate with others… so the list needs which are working after the upgrade.
There is NO nvidia driver in the repos after upgrade… but I have a working one from before the upgrade. The X server managing is mysterious. If an operating system can not handle the peripherals (mainly the display) then it is a bit useless… why don’t care they about it?

You have to compile the hard way in Tumbleweed for NVIDIA driver since the kernel changes so often.

You can not use a NVIDIA driver compiled for an older kernel on a newer kernel.

Show us zypper lr -d

Please use the code tags for computer output to stop the fourm editor from reformatting the text. (# in the menu bar above the edit window)

If you mix OS versions you can have a huge number of problems

I upgraded 13.2 to Tumbleweed. The zypper could do it.
I recompiled the driver, mkinitrd and reboot. Successful.
After this the KDE and Plasma5 crashes (I can not install other desktops, IceWM works).
I sent the developer’s crash list to the KDE.
It worked with the 13.2.
I have no any other idea.

Well tumbleweed is tricky since it constantly changes. It really is not for people that want a constant stable experience. Stick with 13.2 or try leap

Hmmm. I should downgrade to 13.2 or change to Leap from now existing/upgraded Tumbleweed change to the Leap repositories?
I am full of errors after upgrade (I could fix only the non-working syslog).
Is it legal upgrading from 13.2 to Tumbleweed at all? The zypper let it for me…
I am afraid of if I change to an untested upgrade environment than my system will become totally wrong and deteriorated… it is an existing system with lots of useful programs and data…

Well it is totally legal to do what you will. You do understand that in generla downgrade is not supported and you may run into problems because some config files may have changed.

So in general you set the basic repos back to 13.2 and do a zypper dup. But first to be sure show us zypper lr -d You may need to do in several steps first the base repos then any special repos you may use.

To move to leap you set the repos to leap and do the same. To be honest at the moment 13.2 is far more stable then leap appears to be. But them 13.2 at this stage was a little wobbly also

When riding the cutting edge prepare to bleed :open_mouth:

I have changed the repos to the Tumbleweed repositories, of course. The upgrade went smoothly… but the result…

Pfff… then where to? No graphical environments (but IceWM yes), no usable nvidia driver (I think), the MTA setup results system crash and NO reboot possibility… I am no so brave to test the whole system…
13.2, Leap or Tumbleweed? The suse guys did not let real choose for me after 13.2 if I want some user servers and setups… :frowning:

gogalthorpe’s advice was to post

zypper lr -d

here if you wanted advice before doing things.

You did not post it to get help, but preferred to do changes yourself. Now the results are not what you want. And you ask for help again (I assume). Thus again you are asked to post

zypper lr -d

We realy can not provide adequate help when you do not give us the information we think we need to help you.

Well 13.2 is supported for at least another year until 42.2 comes out. 13.1 is now or soon under evergreen support which will last probably at least 2 years. IMO Tumbleweed is not a proper OS for a stable system like a web server since it constantly changes. 42.1 at the moment is still having teething problems since it was such a major change in how openSUSE is done and KDE 4 is dead and we are forced to use plasma 5 since that is what the KDE developers have said. Or you can use another desktop. Gnome does not seem to be having as many problems as Plasma5 at the moment and there are others. If you are really setting web or other servers then why have a GUI at all just run command line. GUI’s just use lots of resource that can be put to better use in a server.

NVIDA driver do not get updated like the rest you must reinstall

With out zypper lr -d can give no further advice

| Alias | Name | Enabled | GPG Check | Refresh | Priority | Type | URI | Service

–±-------------------±-------------------±--------±----------±--------±---------±-------±--------------------------------------------------------------------±-------

1 | NONOSS | non-oss | Yes | (r ) Yes | No | 99 | yast2 | http://download.opensuse.org/tumbleweed/repo/non-oss/ |
2 | TUMBIKA | oss | Yes | (r ) Yes | No | 99 | yast2 | http://download.opensuse.org/tumbleweed/repo/oss/ |
3 | packi | packman | Yes | (r ) Yes | No | 99 | rpm-md | Index of /pub/linux/misc/packman/suse/openSUSE_Tumbleweed/ |
4 | packman-essentials | packman-essentials | Yes | (r ) Yes | No | 99 | rpm-md | http://packman.inode.at/suse/openSUSE_Tumbleweed/ |
5 | probs | packman | Yes | (r ) Yes | No | 99 | rpm-md | Index of /pub/linux/misc/packman/suse/openSUSE_Tumbleweed/ |
6 | repo-update | repo-update | Yes | (r ) Yes | No | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/update/tumbleweed/ |

[QUOTE=gogalthorp;2743851 … Or you can use another desktop. Gnome does not seem to be having as many problems as Plasma5 at the moment and there are others. If you are really setting web or other servers then why have a GUI at all just run command line. GUI’s just use lots of resource that can be put to better use in a server.
NVIDA driver do not get updated like the rest you must reinstall

With out zypper lr -d can give no further advice[/QUOTE]

Plasma5 crashes also. I reinstalled nvidia driver after upgrade. Only the IceWM desktop works.
I did not install and use Gnome. I use only that programs of the distribution what I need.
I can send any config or whatever what you want.

Last chance: change to Leap?