Hi,
System is SuSe 13.1 3.11.10-7 KDE 4.11.5 Phenom QC 9950 8GB RAM on Asus M3A32-MVP
Gfx card Nvidia GeForce 9500GT
System was running well using the default Nouveau Gfx driver, but some reason in a moment of madness I decided I would install the Nvidia driver.
Being a tad lazy I used the 1 click method which installed Driver version 331.49 - seems to me to be the appropriate one for my chip.
However since using this driver I have been plagued with random freezes requiring a reboot of the system. These typically but not always happen when scrolling web pages, although it can occur completely randomly even when there is no obvious ‘on screen’ activity. The result is that the image is still on the screen and sometimes I can move the mouse cursor, but keyboard or mouse clicks do not get a response. Sometimes the display image will fragment too. There is no set time interval that this will occur - sometimes it will behave for half a day or more other times it will freeze up 2 or 3 times in just an hour.
I am doubtful that this issue can be resolved - the nvidai settings are currently at default and I dont see anything obvious to change that could help with this issue. My HP LA2306x screen is also correctly identified.
Given that I was quite happy with the nouveau driver I would like to revert back to it but I am a little stuck on how to restore the nouveau driver again. Yast will helpfully un-install the Nvidia driver but when I reboot I only get as far as run level 3 and dumped in terminal prompt window… startX no longer seems to be a command that is recognised so all I could do then was reboot and select one of the four Suse Advanced boot options which at least then did get me into a graphical environment - albeit at a horribly low resolution, but at least good enough to let me use Yast to re-install the flaky Nvidia driver.
So unless someone knows a tweak to get the Nvidia driver to work reliably, what I_really_need_to_know is how to get back to using the reliable nouveau driver again…
Most probably you created an /etc/X11/xorg.conf . Remove that file and your system should boot again using nouveau.
But actually the nvidia driver should run stable on your system. I guess something went wrong during installation.
Since you already uninstalled it, it won’t be possible to troubleshoot this anymore though.
the nouveau driver is probably still blacklisted. Have in look in /etc/modprobe.d/, look for a *blacklist-nouveau.conf file, or look for blacklisted nouveau driver in 50-blacklist.conf in the same folder.
another remainder of the NVIDIA installer can be modesetting being disabled. Yast - System - Sysconfig editor, search for “KMS”, set found variable to “no”
Reboot.
Well actually as I said the only way I could get a gui again was to boot one of the advanced options and re-install the Nvidia driver - so yes it IS installed now so I’m up for any troubleshooting ideas you may have…
Again, check the “NO_KMS_IN_INITRD” setting in Yast - System - Sysconfig editor. I’ve seen cases where the NVIDIA install set it to “yes”, and it shouldn’t do that, since the NVIDIA driver supports modesetting.
But when this is still set to “yes” it can cause problems with nouveau (that’s why I filed that bug report).
So set this to “no” if necessary, but you have to run “sudo /sbin/mkinitrd” fro the change to take effect. For nvidia it should not matter.
And please post the output of:
rpm -qa | egrep "(kernel|nvidia)"
And again: have you checked whether you have /etc/X11/xorg.conf? If this is present (and specifies the nvidia driver) it will cause X failing to start when the nvidia driver is not installed.
Yes, and now I am confused too…
I’m unsure as to whether Knurpht reply was aimed at getting me to be able to uninstall the Nvidia driver and boot successfully into the GUI using the default nouveau driver, or whether he is trying to help me troubleshoot the problem with the installed Nvidia driver…
Could any further responses please state clearly whether they are advice to reboot correctly after uninstalling Nvidia - or just things to do to try and get Nvidia to work reliably.
Yes I do have an xorg.conf specifying the nvidia driver - so if uninstall nvidia I guess you are inferring I also need to delete this file?
and I guess also that if I uninstall nvidia drivers with Yast and delete xorg.conf I dont have to worry about the
NO_KMS_IN_INITRD=yes setting as that is not relevant for nouveau??
I read somewhere that I should add the nomodeset option to grub at boot up but this didnt seem to offered as an available command when I tried to do that by hitting e at the grub screen…
/etc/modprobe.d/ does not contain a blacklist-nouveau.conf file and nor is the nouveau driver listed in the 50-blacklist file… Is this OK given that I am actually using the Nvidia driver??
What I do see in the 50-blacklist file is nvidiafb
However also in modprobe.d is nvidia-desktop conf which contains just the single line <blacklist nouveau>
I don’t think you should have BOTH of those packages installed.
Please uninstall the first and then re-install install nvidia-gfxG03-kmp-desktop:
sudo rpm -e nvidia-uvm-gfxG03-kmp-desktop
sudo zypper in -f nvidia-gfxG03-kmp-desktop
Maybe that helps?
If not, please post /var/log/Xorg.0.log.
Yes I do have an xorg.conf specifying the nvidia driver - so if uninstall nvidia I guess you are inferring I also need to delete this file?
Yes.
And even with nvidia, you don’t need this file.
and I guess also that if I uninstall nvidia drivers with Yast and delete xorg.conf I dont have to worry about the
NO_KMS_IN_INITRD=yes setting as that is not relevant for nouveau??
Well, in theory you shouldn’t. But I have seen problems with nouveau when this is set to “yes”.
And the nvidia driver doesn’t need it anyway.
So better set it to no if it isn’t.
I read somewhere that I should add the nomodeset option to grub at boot up but this didnt seem to offered as an available command when I tried to do that by hitting e at the grub screen…
No that’s not necessary. The blacklist should take care of preventing nouveau from loading.
/etc/modprobe.d/ does not contain a blacklist-nouveau.conf file and nor is the nouveau driver listed in the 50-blacklist file… Is this OK given that I am actually using the Nvidia driver??
The nvidia rpms create a file called nvidia-desktop.conf for blacklisting nouveau.
That I do see in the 50-blacklist file is nvidiafb
That’s something completely different.
However also in modprobe.d is nvidia-desktop conf which contains just the single line <blacklist nouveau>
Yes. This is created by the nvidia driver RPMs to prevent the loading of nouveau. If that’s done you don’t need “nomodeset”.
Thanks Wolfi - legend answer!! So for now I have uninstalled the UVM version and reinstalled the other one as suggested. I’ve also checked the NO_KMS_IN_INITRD and that was already set to ‘no’. About to reboot it now so I’ll see how it behaves itself tomorrow. It would be nice to get the Nvidia driver reliable as there is a discernible difference in the sharpness and clarity of fonts.
Afraid to say the problem is still with me - if anything it seems worse since uninstalling the UVM driver and refreshing the other one. Instead of teh screen simply freezing now the display goes completely crazy fashing black with elements of the images garishly displayed at low resolutions before completely locking up or a new one today, logging me out…
3rd attempt now to post this - last time when trying to submit my Xorg.0.log I receievd an error saying my post had too many lines so I’ll try again now and post it in 2 seperate sections…
:~> cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log
47.803]
This is a pre-release version of the X server from The X.Org Foundation.
It is not supported in any way.
Bugs may be filed in the bugzilla at http://bugs.freedesktop.org/.
Select the "xorg" product for bugs you find in this release.
Before reporting bugs in pre-release versions please check the
latest version in the X.Org Foundation git repository.
See http://wiki.x.org/wiki/GitPage for git access instructions.
47.803]
X.Org X Server 1.14.3.901 (1.14.4 RC 1)
Release Date: 2013-10-26
47.803] X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
47.803] Build Operating System: openSUSE SUSE LINUX
47.803] Current Operating System: Linux phy-katana 3.11.10-7-desktop #1 SMP PREEMPT Mon Feb 3 09:41:24 UTC 2014 (750023e) x86_64
47.803] Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-3.11.10-7-desktop root=UUID=7eeccad6-76a1-4c58-9402-7a29ef53e663 resume=/dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WD5000AAKS-55V0A0_WD-WCAWFD841844-part1 splash=silent quiet showopts
47.803] Build Date: 19 December 2013 01:42:00PM
47.803]
47.803] Current version of pixman: 0.30.2
47.803] Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
to make sure that you have the latest version.
47.803] Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
47.803] (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Wed Mar 26 08:42:13 2014
47.803] (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
47.803] (==) Using config directory: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d"
47.803] (==) Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d"
47.881] (==) ServerLayout "Layout0"
47.881] (**) |-->Screen "Screen0" (0)
47.881] (**) | |-->Monitor "Monitor0"
47.881] (**) | |-->Device "Device0"
47.881] (**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard0"
47.881] (**) |-->Input Device "Mouse0"
47.881] (==) Automatically adding devices
47.881] (==) Automatically enabling devices
47.881] (==) Automatically adding GPU devices
47.882] (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/misc/sgi" does not exist.
47.882] Entry deleted from font path.
47.882] (==) FontPath set to:
/usr/share/fonts/misc:unscaled,
/usr/share/fonts/Type1/,
/usr/share/fonts/100dpi:unscaled,
/usr/share/fonts/75dpi:unscaled,
/usr/share/fonts/ghostscript/,
/usr/share/fonts/cyrillic:unscaled,
/usr/share/fonts/truetype/,
built-ins
47.882] (==) ModulePath set to "/usr/lib64/xorg/modules/updates,/usr/lib64/xorg/modules"
47.882] (WW) Hotplugging is on, devices using drivers 'kbd', 'mouse' or 'vmmouse' will be disabled.
47.882] (WW) Disabling Keyboard0
47.882] (WW) Disabling Mouse0
47.882] (II) Loader magic: 0x803c20
47.882] (II) Module ABI versions:
47.882] X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4
47.882] X.Org Video Driver: 14.1
47.882] X.Org XInput driver : 19.1
47.882] X.Org Server Extension : 7.0
47.882] (II) xfree86: Adding drm device (/dev/dri/card0)
47.883] (--) PCI:*(0:1:0:0) 10de:0640:1682:400a rev 161, Mem @ 0xfd000000/16777216, 0xd0000000/268435456, 0xfa000000/33554432, I/O @ 0x00007800/128, BIOS @ 0x????????/524288
47.883] Initializing built-in extension Generic Event Extension
47.883] Initializing built-in extension SHAPE
47.883] Initializing built-in extension MIT-SHM
47.883] Initializing built-in extension XInputExtension
47.883] Initializing built-in extension XTEST
47.883] Initializing built-in extension BIG-REQUESTS
47.883] Initializing built-in extension SYNC
47.883] Initializing built-in extension XKEYBOARD
47.883] Initializing built-in extension XC-MISC
47.883] Initializing built-in extension SECURITY
47.883] Initializing built-in extension XINERAMA
47.883] Initializing built-in extension XFIXES
47.883] Initializing built-in extension RENDER
47.883] Initializing built-in extension RANDR
47.883] Initializing built-in extension COMPOSITE
47.883] Initializing built-in extension DAMAGE
47.883] Initializing built-in extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
47.883] Initializing built-in extension DOUBLE-BUFFER
47.883] Initializing built-in extension RECORD
47.883] Initializing built-in extension DPMS
47.883] Initializing built-in extension X-Resource
47.883] Initializing built-in extension XVideo
47.883] Initializing built-in extension XVideo-MotionCompensation
47.883] Initializing built-in extension XFree86-VidModeExtension
47.883] Initializing built-in extension XFree86-DGA
47.883] Initializing built-in extension XFree86-DRI
47.883] Initializing built-in extension DRI2
47.883] (II) LoadModule: "glx"
47.932] (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/updates/extensions/libglx.so
49.134] (II) Module glx: vendor="NVIDIA Corporation"
49.134] compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0
49.134] Module class: X.Org Server Extension
49.134] (II) NVIDIA GLX Module 331.49 Wed Feb 12 20:17:10 PST 2014
49.149] Loading extension GLX
49.149] (II) LoadModule: "nvidia"
49.168] (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/updates/drivers/nvidia_drv.so
49.447] (II) Module nvidia: vendor="NVIDIA Corporation"
49.447] compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0
49.447] Module class: X.Org Video Driver
49.461] (II) NVIDIA dlloader X Driver 331.49 Wed Feb 12 19:57:36 PST 2014
49.461] (II) NVIDIA Unified Driver for all Supported NVIDIA GPUs
49.483] (++) using VT number 7
49.488] (II) Loading sub module "fb"
49.488] (II) LoadModule: "fb"
49.495] (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/libfb.so
49.495] (II) Module fb: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
49.495] compiled for 1.14.3.901, module version = 1.0.0
49.495] ABI class: X.Org ANSI C Emulation, version 0.4
49.495] (WW) Unresolved symbol: fbGetGCPrivateKey
49.495] (II) Loading sub module "wfb"
49.495] (II) LoadModule: "wfb"
49.496] (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/libwfb.so
49.496] (II) Module wfb: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
49.496] compiled for 1.14.3.901, module version = 1.0.0
49.496] ABI class: X.Org ANSI C Emulation, version 0.4
49.496] (II) Loading sub module "ramdac"
49.496] (II) LoadModule: "ramdac"
49.496] (II) Module "ramdac" already built-in
49.544] (**) NVIDIA(0): Depth 24, (--) framebuffer bpp 32
49.544] (==) NVIDIA(0): RGB weight 888
49.544] (==) NVIDIA(0): Default visual is TrueColor
49.544] (==) NVIDIA(0): Using gamma correction (1.0, 1.0, 1.0)
49.550] (**) NVIDIA(0): Enabling 2D acceleration
50.761] (II) NVIDIA(0): Display (HP LA2306 (DFP-0)) does not support NVIDIA 3D Vision
50.761] (II) NVIDIA(0): stereo.
50.761] (II) NVIDIA(GPU-0): Found DRM driver nvidia-drm (20130102)
50.762] (II) NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA GPU GeForce 9500 GT (G96) at PCI:1:0:0 (GPU-0)
50.762] (--) NVIDIA(0): Memory: 1048576 kBytes
50.762] (--) NVIDIA(0): VideoBIOS: 62.94.4b.00.96
50.762] (II) NVIDIA(0): Detected PCI Express Link width: 16X
50.764] (--) NVIDIA(0): Valid display device(s) on GeForce 9500 GT at PCI:1:0:0
50.764] (--) NVIDIA(0): CRT-0
50.764] (--) NVIDIA(0): CRT-1
50.764] (--) NVIDIA(0): TV-0
50.764] (--) NVIDIA(0): HP LA2306 (DFP-0) (boot, connected)
50.764] (--) NVIDIA(0): CRT-0: 400.0 MHz maximum pixel clock
50.764] (--) NVIDIA(0): CRT-1: 400.0 MHz maximum pixel clock
50.764] (--) NVIDIA(0): TV-0: 400.0 MHz maximum pixel clock
50.764] (--) NVIDIA(0): HP LA2306 (DFP-0): Internal Dual Link TMDS
50.764] (--) NVIDIA(0): HP LA2306 (DFP-0): 330.0 MHz maximum pixel clock
50.764] (**) NVIDIA(0): Using HorizSync/VertRefresh ranges from the EDID for display
50.764] (**) NVIDIA(0): device HP LA2306 (DFP-0) (Using EDID frequencies has been
50.764] (**) NVIDIA(0): enabled on all display devices.)
50.766] (==) NVIDIA(0):
50.766] (==) NVIDIA(0): No modes were requested; the default mode "nvidia-auto-select"
50.766] (==) NVIDIA(0): will be used as the requested mode.
50.766] (==) NVIDIA(0):
50.766] (II) NVIDIA(0): Validated MetaModes:
50.766] (II) NVIDIA(0): "DFP-0:nvidia-auto-select"
50.766] (II) NVIDIA(0): Virtual screen size determined to be 1920 x 1080
50.797] (--) NVIDIA(0): DPI set to (95, 94); computed from "UseEdidDpi" X config
50.797] (--) NVIDIA(0): option
50.797] (--) Depth 24 pixmap format is 32 bpp
50.797] (II) NVIDIA: Using 768.00 MB of virtual memory for indirect memory access.
50.800] (II) NVIDIA(0): ACPI: failed to connect to the ACPI event daemon; the daemon
50.800] (II) NVIDIA(0): may not be running or the "AcpidSocketPath" X
50.800] (II) NVIDIA(0): configuration option may not be set correctly. When the
50.800] (II) NVIDIA(0): ACPI event daemon is available, the NVIDIA X driver will
50.800] (II) NVIDIA(0): try to use it to receive ACPI event notifications. For
50.800] (II) NVIDIA(0): details, please see the "ConnectToAcpid" and
50.800] (II) NVIDIA(0): "AcpidSocketPath" X configuration options in Appendix B: X
50.800] (II) NVIDIA(0): Config Options in the README.
50.802] (II) NVIDIA(0): Setting mode "DFP-0:nvidia-auto-select"
50.849] Loading extension NV-GLX
50.859] (==) NVIDIA(0): Disabling shared memory pixmaps
50.859] (==) NVIDIA(0): Backing store disabled
50.859] (==) NVIDIA(0): Silken mouse enabled
50.860] (**) NVIDIA(0): DPMS enabled
50.860] Loading extension NV-CONTROL
50.860] Loading extension XINERAMA
50.860] (II) Loading sub module "dri2"
50.860] (II) LoadModule: "dri2"
50.860] (II) Module "dri2" already built-in
50.860] (II) NVIDIA(0): [DRI2] Setup complete
50.860] (II) NVIDIA(0): [DRI2] VDPAU driver: nvidia
50.860] (--) RandR disabled
50.866] (II) Initializing extension GLX
50.962] (II) config/udev: Adding input device Power Button (/dev/input/event3)
50.962] (**) Power Button: Applying InputClass "evdev keyboard catchall"
50.962] (**) Power Button: Applying InputClass "evdev keyboard catchall"
50.962] (**) Power Button: Applying InputClass "LocalKeyboard"
50.962] (II) LoadModule: "evdev"
50.962] (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/input/evdev_drv.so
50.962] (II) Module evdev: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
50.962] compiled for 1.14.3, module version = 2.8.2
50.962] Module class: X.Org XInput Driver
50.962] ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 19.1
50.962] (II) Using input driver 'evdev' for 'Power Button'
50.962] (**) Power Button: always reports core events
50.962] (**) evdev: Power Button: Device: "/dev/input/event3"
50.962] (--) evdev: Power Button: Vendor 0 Product 0x1
50.962] (--) evdev: Power Button: Found keys
50.962] (II) evdev: Power Button: Configuring as keyboard
50.962] (**) Option "config_info" "udev:/sys/devices/LNXSYSTM:00/LNXPWRBN:00/input/input3/event3"
50.962] (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Power Button" (type: KEYBOARD, id 6)
50.962] (**) Option "xkb_rules" "evdev"
50.962] (**) Option "xkb_model" "pc104"
50.962] (**) Option "xkb_layout" "gb"
50.990] (II) config/udev: Adding input device Power Button (/dev/input/event2)
50.990] (**) Power Button: Applying InputClass "evdev keyboard catchall"
50.990] (**) Power Button: Applying InputClass "evdev keyboard catchall"
50.990] (**) Power Button: Applying InputClass "LocalKeyboard"
50.990] (II) Using input driver 'evdev' for 'Power Button'
50.990] (**) Power Button: always reports core events
50.990] (**) evdev: Power Button: Device: "/dev/input/event2"
50.990] (--) evdev: Power Button: Vendor 0 Product 0x1
50.990] (--) evdev: Power Button: Found keys
50.990] (II) evdev: Power Button: Configuring as keyboard
50.990] (**) Option "config_info" "udev:/sys/devices/LNXSYSTM:00/device:00/PNP0C0C:00/input/input2/event2"
50.990] (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Power Button" (type: KEYBOARD, id 7)
50.991] (**) Option "xkb_rules" "evdev"
50.991] (**) Option "xkb_model" "pc104"
50.991] (**) Option "xkb_layout" "gb"
50.991] (II) config/udev: Adding drm device (/dev/dri/card0)
50.992] (II) config/udev: Adding input device PIXART USB OPTICAL MOUSE (/dev/input/event0)
50.992] (**) PIXART USB OPTICAL MOUSE: Applying InputClass "evdev pointer catchall"
50.992] (**) PIXART USB OPTICAL MOUSE: Applying InputClass "evdev pointer catchall"
50.992] (II) Using input driver 'evdev' for 'PIXART USB OPTICAL MOUSE'
50.992] (**) PIXART USB OPTICAL MOUSE: always reports core events
50.992] (**) evdev: PIXART USB OPTICAL MOUSE: Device: "/dev/input/event0"
50.992] (--) evdev: PIXART USB OPTICAL MOUSE: Vendor 0x93a Product 0x2510
50.992] (--) evdev: PIXART USB OPTICAL MOUSE: Found 3 mouse buttons
50.992] (--) evdev: PIXART USB OPTICAL MOUSE: Found scroll wheel(s)
50.992] (--) evdev: PIXART USB OPTICAL MOUSE: Found relative axes
50.992] (--) evdev: PIXART USB OPTICAL MOUSE: Found x and y relative axes
50.992] (II) evdev: PIXART USB OPTICAL MOUSE: Configuring as mouse
50.992] (II) evdev: PIXART USB OPTICAL MOUSE: Adding scrollwheel support
50.992] (**) evdev: PIXART USB OPTICAL MOUSE: YAxisMapping: buttons 4 and 5
50.992] (**) evdev: PIXART USB OPTICAL MOUSE: EmulateWheelButton: 4, EmulateWheelInertia: 10, EmulateWheelTimeout: 200
50.992] (**) Option "config_info" "udev:/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:13.2/usb4/4-1/4-1:1.0/input/input0/event0"
50.992] (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "PIXART USB OPTICAL MOUSE" (type: MOUSE, id 8)
50.992] (II) evdev: PIXART USB OPTICAL MOUSE: initialized for relative axes.
50.992] (**) PIXART USB OPTICAL MOUSE: (accel) keeping acceleration scheme 1
50.992] (**) PIXART USB OPTICAL MOUSE: (accel) acceleration profile 0
50.992] (**) PIXART USB OPTICAL MOUSE: (accel) acceleration factor: 2.000
50.992] (**) PIXART USB OPTICAL MOUSE: (accel) acceleration threshold: 4
50.993] (II) config/udev: Adding input device PIXART USB OPTICAL MOUSE (/dev/input/mouse0)
50.993] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
50.993] (II) This device may have been added with another device file.
50.993] (II) config/udev: Adding input device CHICONY HP Basic USB Keyboard (/dev/input/event1)
50.993] (**) CHICONY HP Basic USB Keyboard: Applying InputClass "evdev keyboard catchall"
50.993] (**) CHICONY HP Basic USB Keyboard: Applying InputClass "evdev keyboard catchall"
50.993] (**) CHICONY HP Basic USB Keyboard: Applying InputClass "LocalKeyboard"
50.993] (II) Using input driver 'evdev' for 'CHICONY HP Basic USB Keyboard'
50.993] (**) CHICONY HP Basic USB Keyboard: always reports core events
50.993] (**) evdev: CHICONY HP Basic USB Keyboard: Device: "/dev/input/event1"
50.993] (--) evdev: CHICONY HP Basic USB Keyboard: Vendor 0x3f0 Product 0x24
50.993] (--) evdev: CHICONY HP Basic USB Keyboard: Found keys
50.993] (II) evdev: CHICONY HP Basic USB Keyboard: Configuring as keyboard
50.993] (**) Option "config_info" "udev:/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:13.2/usb4/4-2/4-2:1.0/input/input1/event1"
50.993] (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "CHICONY HP Basic USB Keyboard" (type: KEYBOARD, id 9)
50.994] (**) Option "xkb_rules" "evdev"
50.994] (**) Option "xkb_model" "pc104"
50.994] (**) Option "xkb_layout" "gb"
50.994] (II) config/udev: Adding input device HDA Digital PCBeep (/dev/input/event5)
50.994] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
50.994] (II) This device may have been added with another device file.
50.995] (II) config/udev: Adding input device HDA ATI SB Line Out Front (/dev/input/event10)
50.995] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
50.995] (II) This device may have been added with another device file.
50.995] (II) config/udev: Adding input device HDA ATI SB Line (/dev/input/event11)
50.995] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
50.995] (II) This device may have been added with another device file.
50.995] (II) config/udev: Adding input device HDA ATI SB Rear Mic (/dev/input/event12)
50.995] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
50.995] (II) This device may have been added with another device file.
50.996] (II) config/udev: Adding input device HDA ATI SB Front Mic (/dev/input/event13)
50.996] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
50.996] (II) This device may have been added with another device file.
50.996] (II) config/udev: Adding input device HDA ATI SB Front Headphone (/dev/input/event6)
50.996] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
50.996] (II) This device may have been added with another device file.
50.996] (II) config/udev: Adding input device HDA ATI SB Line Out Side (/dev/input/event7)
50.996] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
50.996] (II) This device may have been added with another device file.
50.997] (II) config/udev: Adding input device HDA ATI SB Line Out CLFE (/dev/input/event8)
50.997] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
50.997] (II) This device may have been added with another device file.
50.997] (II) config/udev: Adding input device HDA ATI SB Line Out Surround (/dev/input/event9)
50.997] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
50.997] (II) This device may have been added with another device file.
50.997] (II) config/udev: Adding input device PC Speaker (/dev/input/event4)
50.998] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
50.998] (II) This device may have been added with another device file.
81.942] (II) NVIDIA(GPU-0): Display (HP LA2306 (DFP-0)) does not support NVIDIA 3D Vision
81.942] (II) NVIDIA(GPU-0): stereo.
83.160] (II) NVIDIA(GPU-0): Display (HP LA2306 (DFP-0)) does not support NVIDIA 3D Vision
83.160] (II) NVIDIA(GPU-0): stereo.
The only thingthat jumps out at me is the reference to my display not supporting Nvidia 3d Vision which surprises me as it is quite a new and good quality display…
Maybe someone else can see some other problem that I am missing…
Anyway, I don’t think there’s anything wrong with the driver installation (the log looks ok).
Maybe the G03 driver just doesn’t support your card too well any more?
Try to uninstall it and install the G02 driver instead:
Sometimes problems like this can also be caused by a buggy BIOS. So please check whether there’s an update available.
The only thingthat jumps out at me is the reference to my display not supporting Nvidia 3d Vision which surprises me as it is quite a new and good quality display…
[QUOTE=wolfi323;2633130]You could upload it to http://susepaste.org/ or similar and post a link.
Anyway, I don’t think there’s anything wrong with the driver installation (the log looks ok).
Maybe the G03 driver just doesn’t support your card too well any more?
Try to uninstall it and install the G02 driver instead:
Sometimes problems like this can also be caused by a buggy BIOS. So please check whether there’s an update available.
OK now using the G02 driver - seems slightly more stable but already had one complete freeze after some frantic web page scrolling and normal scrolling seems to induce momentary screen blackouts…
My BIOS is about 20 revisions out of date!! I’ll struggle through the rest of the work day scrolling_ very_ slowwwwly and then try updating the BIOS…
I’m not hugely optimistic that this will fix it but I don’t think there’s much else to try now. Im wondering if the problem might actually be the card itself which although has the Nvidia 9500 chip is actually a cheap Zotac card - maybe the Nvidia driver is stressing it in some way that the nouveau doesnt? Anways at least I now know how to de-install the Nvidia driver and be able to reboot using nouveau so thanks for all the help and advice.
Ohh one final question - I’ve noticed that every time the Nvidia driver is installed it will disable Open GL in desktop compositing effects - even though I am still experiencing the freeze issues with Open GL disabled is it then not a good idea to use Open GL with Nvidia hence why it gets disabled??
Well, I have it working perfectly on a Zotac card. But that is a newer one (GTX 550 Ti).
The graphics chip itself should be the same regardless of the card’s manufacturer.
But it could of course also be some hardware fault which does not show up with the nouveau driver, as that one doesn’t fully support all the cards features/doesn’t push the card to its limits/uses the card differently.
Ohh one final question - I’ve noticed that every time the Nvidia driver is installed it will disable Open GL in desktop compositing effects - even though I am still experiencing the freeze issues with Open GL disabled is it then not a good idea to use Open GL with Nvidia hence why it gets disabled??
Actually, if you have full hardware OpenGL support (as you do with the nvidia driver), OpenGL should work better.
KWin disables it automatically though if something is wrong with OpenGL.
Does it work if you enable it manually? Or is it getting switched back to XRender?
Btw, this remembers me of one thing we have forgotten to check.
Please install the package “Mesa-demo-x” and post the output of:
glxinfo | grep render
This should show whether OpenGL/direct rendering is fully working. (it might no because of permission issues)
Okies I had open GL enabled before beginning to use Nvidia - at some point after the very first ‘one click’ nvidia install it must have been disabled as I noticed desktop effect weren’t working any more so I enabled it under advanced desktop effects. After the removal of the UVM driver and re-install of Desktop driver I noticed that once again it been disabled so I again re-enabled it. After the final attempt with the G02 installation, no desktop effects and this time when I went to re-enable it I see a message telling me that effects have been disable “due to OpenGL compositing has crashed kWin in the past, most likely due to a driver bug”
I have now ignored the warning and re-enabled it and so far it’s OK.
Well the G02 driver with Open GL enabled again has been the best behaved so far - however it was still freezing occasionally so I have now de-installed all the Nvidia packages, removed xorg.conf and it is now using the nouveau driver quite happily
Many thanks for all your effort and patience in trying to get Nvidia sorted - even though we didn’t get there I have learnt a few things along the way thanks to your well structured and comprehensive answers to my many questions.
Not so much a contribution, rather an observation…
I’ve been a Linux convert (specifically openSUSE) for several years and currently have 24 PCs running the OS, along with several IPCops and Asterisk.
However, since making the migration the most problematic issue has always been graphics (with network printing in second place)! Just recently I noted that two of my PCs suddenly appeared to have both Nvidia G02 and G03 drivers loaded and consequently both failed to boot beyond a terminal when I restarted them. Removing both sets of drivers, and then reinstalling only one set fixed the problem.
As a friend recently commented, until graphics work properly, ‘out-of-the-box’, Linux cannot be considered to be a serious opponent to Windows or Apple by the average PC user.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m a true convert and am still amazed at what can be done with this great product, I just wish they could fix these issues, once and for all.
This should not be possible in 13.2 any more, because then YaST/zypper will check for file conflicts in the packages they install.
As a friend recently commented, until graphics work properly, ‘out-of-the-box’, Linux cannot be considered to be a serious opponent to Windows or Apple by the average PC user.
Well, actually graphics does work properly, ‘out-of-the-box’, for most graphics card models at least.
It’s true that the open source nouveau and radeon drivers does have problems with certain cards, and that you need to install the proprietary driver manually if you want to use the full performance of your graphics card in that case.
But this is not so true anymore with radeon (especially with the latest kernel and driver versions), and should hopefully get better with nouveau as well, as nvidia announced a few months ago that they will finally support nouveau’s development.
And you do need to install the proprietary graphics drivers manually on Windows as well.
For intel cards f.e. the situation looks completely different anyway as there is only an open source driver, which is included in openSUSE of course.
> Don’t get me wrong, I’m a true convert and am still amazed at what can
> be done with this great product, I just wish they could fix these
> issues, once and for all.
The main issue is legal, not technical. There is very little that can be
done, when this is intentional.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” at Telcontar)
