Nothing happens

Hello everyone,

I am hoping between the different Linux environments and by now it is openSUSE time!
so i am switching from Ubuntu 12.04 to the latest open SUSE 12.3.
It took me some time to find out how to make a usb stick with live cd but i did it.
then, the next step was to install SUSE but unfortunately i got an error which i could overcome by using this forum.
it was something about the grub which make sense if i just tried to move from Ubuntu to here.
i have realized i should choose use the whole hard drive and so i did.
since then i have stopped seeing the error message and instead, nothing happens (just black screen).
so i plugged back the usb thing and this is how i am writing to you.

my Hard Drive is good, my usb stick and the iso are good and ubuntu worked fine on my system.
i will not go back because this one looks fun. but i need it to work first so if you can advice for anything, please :\

Tell us more about your PC and about your video system. How far does the installation get? I had one PC where I had to select text mode install, even though it loaded a GUI desktop just fine when the install was complete. You can select different graphic setups and text before you elect to install openSUSE.

Thank You,

Hi, welcome.

IMHO there’s no need for a reinstall. AFAICT it’s the bootloader that’s not installed properly. This can have various causes, amongst which remains of Ubuntu’s GRUB in the MBR of the disk (if you installed openSUSE’s GRUB on a partition. From the Live environment open a terminal, and do


/sbin/fdisk -l

and post oupout here, between CODE tags.

from the live cd, for some reason fdisk is not working.
by just copying the code Knurpht wrote, i get a new line when nothing happen.
by going to the location /sbin i get a message states that i might need prevailing etc:

Absolute path to ‘fdisk’ is ‘/usr/sbin/fdisk’, so running it may require superuser privileges (eg. root).

i know it doesn’t make sense and probably i am doing something wrong.
i will try anyway to reinstall with different graphic setting and if it will solve the issue i will let you know.
thank you guys, both!

Dotan

You neeed to be root

try sudo fdisk -l
just press enter when asked for a password the live DVD does not have a password set for root.

this is weird…
if i type just fdisk i get “Absolute path to ‘fdisk’ is ‘/usr/sbin/fdisk’, so running it may require superuser privileges (eg. root).
it doesn’t matter where i try to run it i always get this replay.
but when i type sudo fdisk -l i get “command not found” :\

reinstalling with different graphic modes didn’t solve the problem

in the meantime i will tell you about my computer:
it’s X220Tablet by Lenovo. i am looking for a nice Linux platform that can work better than Microsoft Windows with the touch option.
it has i-5 2.5ghz
4gb ram
and 7mm hdd of 320 gb on 7200rpm.
12.1" wide screen with intel graphics hd 3000

cheers

Use sudo su - with your password and try the command again.

On 2013-07-04 09:16, dothque wrote:
>
> this is weird…
> if i type just fdisk i get “-Absolute path to ‘fdisk’ is
> ‘/usr/sbin/fdisk’, so running it may require superuser privileges (eg.
> root).-”

Correct.

> it doesn’t matter where i try to run it i always get this replay.
> but when i type sudo fdisk -l i get “-command not found-” :\

Correct.

Nothing wrong there. What’s the problem? In other words, why don’t you
do as the message says, use the full path, ‘/usr/sbin/fdisk’? With sudo,
of course.

Computers are testy things. If they tell you to do things in a certain
way, DO SO!


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 12.3 x86_64 “Dartmouth” at Telcontar)

On 07/04/2013 11:08 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> use the full path, ‘/usr/sbin/fdisk’? With sudo of course.

maybe someone should mention to this distro hopper (welcome, by the
way) that sudo is not the same on all distros…especially not the
same as in Ubuntu and children…

in openSUSE sudo retains the user path, which does not (in openSUSE)
contain /usr/sbin/

so, what would work in Ubunu (sudo fdisk) won’t work here…(but sudo
/usr/sbin/fdisk will and so will becomming root first by using “su -”)

other differences in http://tinyurl.com/ubuntu-to-openSUSE
http://tinyurl.com/Ubuntu-Differences and other spots…


dd

Ok! so now i got it with the sudo /give/me/location and it works, so we can go back to the previous issue, why it doesn’t works at all -
the output of fdisk is:

WARNING: GPT (GUID Partition Table) detected on ‘/dev/sda’! The util fdisk doesn’t support GPT. Use GNU Parted.

Disk /dev/sda: 320.1 GB, 320072933376 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 38913 cylinders, total 625142448 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x00000000

Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sda1 1 625142447 312571223+ ee GPT

Disk /dev/sdb: 8000 MB, 8000110592 bytes
64 heads, 32 sectors/track, 7629 cylinders, total 15625216 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x7cc6f9b1

Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sdb1 * 0 1822719 911360 17 Hidden HPFS/NTFS

Disk /dev/sdb1: 933 MB, 933232640 bytes
64 heads, 32 sectors/track, 890 cylinders, total 1822720 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x7cc6f9b1

 Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System

/dev/sdb1p1 * 0 1822719 911360 17 Hidden HPFS/NTFS

just to remind you, i had ubuntu, i want to move to openSUSE, i tried to install it fresh and clean from a usb stick.
when i start my computer without the stick i get nothing.

thanks for your support guys , or girls

On 2013-07-04 14:46, dothque wrote:
>
> Ok! so now i got it with the sudo /give/me/location and it works, so we
> can go back to the previous issue, why it doesn’t works at all -
> the output of fdisk is:

What is it that doesn’t work? :-?


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 12.3 x86_64 “Dartmouth” at Telcontar)

On 07/04/2013 03:43 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> What is it that doesn’t work? :-?

at the end of his message: " i tried to install it fresh and clean
from a usb stick. when i start my computer without the stick i get
nothing."

so, it won’t boot without the USB inserted, i guess…what is that, a
grub setup problem…


dd
http://tinyurl.com/DD-Caveat

On 2013-07-04 21:50, dd wrote:
> On 07/04/2013 03:43 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>> What is it that doesn’t work? :-?
>
> at the end of his message: " i tried to install it fresh and clean from
> a usb stick. when i start my computer without the stick i get nothing."
>
> so, it won’t boot without the USB inserted, i guess…what is that, a
> grub setup problem…

I’m absolutely baffled. What has that to do with getting sudo to work?

Ok, I’ll read his posts again.

#1… I don’t understand. From jdmcdaniel3 I gather it is something
about installation. From Knurpht it is something about the bootloader.
You also say it is boot.

So it must be about boot.

So the fdisk think was to gather information about his system; but he
has a GPT system, thus fdisk output is useless. We need output from
gparted instead.

Sigh… I leave it to you, people, as I don’t understand his
descriptions, I can not be of help.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 12.3 x86_64 “Dartmouth” at Telcontar)

That’s the problem at the end. We told, what he should do (many commands). The TO has got the help, which he need and used that.
After that you get the thank and don’t know, what the problem was.
I think, it would be better helping step by step and not too many answers to one question.

this dude had the same problem:
UEFI boot on Lenovo Thinkpad X220 (USB thumb drive)
so it appears that the hopper should hop once again.
any suggestion for another nice black and green distro?

“sorry suse, it’s not gonna work between us, no matter how much open you are gonna be :’(”

On 07/05/2013 06:46 PM, dothque wrote:
> any suggestion for another nice black and green distro

‘they’ say the easiest to break in on is Ubuntu…so if you left it
because you couldn’t get it to work you probably need to go back to
its easiness…

otherwise, if you left it because it was so boringly simple, then you
might wanna have a look at Mint…i hear it is next easiest after
the Easy King, Ubuntu…

on the other hand if you can’t get openSUSE to work only because you
expected it to have all the same operating procedures and
requirements that you had well learned with Ubuntu…then, you still
need to go back to Ubuntu (or Mint) and then come back here when
you are ready to learn how to operate openSUSE–there are
differences (i mentioned some earlier)…

and, by the way all the various distros have their own quirks…


dd

dear dd,

you were helping me from the first moment i have posted this thread.
i am not looking for an easy solution i am looking for a working one.
openSUSE looks great but it appears that something which i am not so familiar with and has to do with the
HDD architecture, makes it impossible (GPT,UEFi etc.)
then there is nothing i can do. of course if it is so important i can always switch my computer instead of OS…

right now i am trying to figure out if SUSE itself can work with my laptop.
thanks for your support, it seems like you know a lot!

cheers and have a nice weekend
D Brand