Not getting automatic updates notification on OpenSuse 11.1

I installed OpenSuse 11.1 (switched from Fedora 11) last week. I installed my apps and also updgraded them using the yast2–install ‘upgrade’ tab. However i have not got a single notification to get security patches/bugs/enhancements. I have configured for daily updates & notification through Control center. I have seen OpenSuse screenshots where a ‘blue?’ button appears on taskbar notifying you of updates (Fedora had something similar too); but i have never seen something like that on my system yet.

Is something wrong? I am really starting to get worried now since it’s a home computer which my entire family uses.

Would appreciate early response !

Open a terminal and type:

zypper lr --details

post result so we can see your repo status

Here is what i got as output:

| Alias | Name | Enabled | Refresh | Priority | Type | URI | Service
—±----------------------±----------------------------------------------------±--------±--------±---------±-------±------------------------------------------------------------------------------------±-------

1 | Google | Google | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | http://dl.google.com/linux/rpm/stable/i386 |
2 | Packman Repository | Packman Repository | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | Index of /pub/packman/suse/11.1 |
3 | openSUSE-11.1-Updates | openSUSE-11.1-Updates | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | Index of /update/11.1 |
4 | repo | NVIDIA Repository | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.nvidia.com/opensuse/11.1 |
5 | repo-debug | openSUSE-11.1-Debug | Yes | Yes | 100 | yast2 | Index of /debug/distribution/11.1/repo/oss |
6 | repo-non-oss | openSUSE-11.1-Non-Oss | Yes | No | 99 | yast2 | Index of /distribution/11.1/repo/non-oss |
7 | repo-oss | openSUSE-11.1-Oss | Yes | No | 99 | yast2 | Index of /distribution/11.1/repo/oss |
8 | repo-source | openSUSE-11.1-Source | Yes | Yes | 100 | yast2 | Index of /source/distribution/11.1/repo/oss |
9 | repo-update | openSUSE-11.1-Update | Yes | No | 99 | rpm-md | Index of /update/11.1 |
10 | repo_1 | Main Repository (NON-OSS) | Yes | Yes | 99 | yast2 | Index of /distribution/11.1/repo/non-oss |
11 | repo_10 | openSUSE BuildService - Virtualization (QEMU) | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | Index of /repositories/Virtualization:/Qemu/openSUSE_11.1 |
12 | repo_11 | openSUSE BuildService - Virtualization (VirtualBox) | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | Index of /repositories/Virtualization:/VirtualBox/openSUSE_11.1 |
13 | repo_12 | openSUSE BuildService - X11:Compiz | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | Index of /repositories/X11:/Compiz/openSUSE_11.1 |
14 | repo_13 | openSUSE BuildService - XFCE | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | Index of /repositories/X11:/xfce/openSUSE_11.1 |
15 | repo_14 | openSUSE BuildService - Drivers for webcams | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | Index of /repositories/drivers:/webcam/openSUSE_11.1 |
16 | repo_15 | openSUSE BuildService - Games | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | Index of /repositories/games/openSUSE_11.1 |
17 | repo_16 | openSUSE BuildService - Mozilla | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | Index of /repositories/mozilla/openSUSE_11.1 |
18 | repo_17 | openSUSE BuildService - Database | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | Index of /repositories/server:/database/openSUSE_11.1 |
19 | repo_18 | openSUSE BuildService - Mail Server | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | Index of /repositories/server:/mail/openSUSE_11.1 |
20 | repo_19 | openSUSE BuildService - PHP | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | Index of /repositories/server:/php/openSUSE_11.1 |
21 | repo_2 | Main Repository (OSS) | Yes | Yes | 99 | yast2 | Index of /distribution/11.1/repo/oss |
22 | repo_20 | Main Update Repository | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | Index of /update/11.1 |
23 | repo_21 | VideoLan Repository | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | Index of /pub/videolan/vlc/SuSE/11.1/ |
24 | repo_22 | Packman Repository | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | Index of /pub/packman/suse/11.1 |
25 | repo_23 | openSUSE Education | Yes | Yes | 99 | yast2 | Index of /download/repo/1.0/11.1 |
26 | repo_24 | ATI Repository | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | http://www2.ati.com/suse/11.1 |
27 | repo_3 | openSUSE BuildService - Wine CVS Builds | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | Index of /repositories/Emulators:/Wine/openSUSE_11.1 |
28 | repo_4 | openSUSE BuildService - GNOME:Community | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | Index of /repositories/GNOME:/Community/openSUSE_11.1 |
29 | repo_5 | openSUSE BuildService - GNOME:STABLE | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | Index of /repositories/GNOME:/STABLE/openSUSE_11.1 |
30 | repo_6 | openSUSE BuildService - KDE:Backports | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | Index of /repositories/KDE:/Backports/openSUSE_11.1 |
31 | repo_7 | openSUSE BuildService - KDE:Community | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | Index of /repositories/KDE:/Community/openSUSE_11.1 |
32 | repo_8 | openSUSE BuildService - Mono:Community | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | Index of /repositories/Mono:/Community/openSUSE_11.1 |
33 | repo_9 | openSUSE BuildService - OpenOffice.org | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | Index of /repositories/OpenOffice.org:/STABLE/openSUSE_11.1 |

You have duplicates of Update #3 and #22
keep #3 and change it’s priority to 20

#9 is also the same. Should i delete that as well?

Yes
Dude you have way too many repo, but never mind that for now. Don’t forget the priority in #3 to (20)

Deleted #22 and #9 and changed priority of #3 to 20. What next to get auto updates?

Also in your opinion which one of the repos should i remove so that i still have all software on my Yast? It takes way too long for Yast, install software, etc. to start up since auto-refresh attempts to get the latest updates every time.

Do you have the updater running in the panel? I never bother with it. Prefer to use Yast Software Management (or you could use the Yast Online Update)

Another method is; open a terminal and become su then do

zypper ref

then

zypper up

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Regarding the repo’s. Do you know why you have them all?
With so many there, it’s possible you could loose functionality or break a driver if we take them out.
I could advise you but understand, it’s virtually impossible for me to know the outcome.

My guess is you had a bit of a repo adding spree;
I think that because you have both nvidia and ati graphics repo’s amongst a plethora of other superfluous repo’s.

Updater is not running in the panel yet. How do i fix it in order to make it pick updates automatically?

I did go on a repo adding spree. Followed a website (blindly) and added them. Frankly i don’t even know which ones i use. I have installed the following:

Acrobat reader, Back in time UI, HPLIP for printing/scanning, Peazip, Songbird, Java, VLC player, XBMC, xsane, aMSN, Skype, Banshee, Brasero, Flash player, MPlayer, Rhythmbox, Totem, Open office suite, Planner, AntiVir GUI, RPMOrphan.

I did not touch the standard software can came installed with OpenSUSE 11.1 liveCD.

But my auto update issue is top priority!

I have been using Yast for doing manual updates so far; but my issue is that updates are not coming automatically. I have even restarted !

caf : it worked. I just got an auto update pushed. Thanks!
Need help with cleaning up my repo.

Please post again

zypper lr --details

i think it is probably time to get the developers to focus on the need
to boost the information available on the left side of the panel where
repos can be added…

maybe require a special password that can only be receivedn by staying
connected to a special page on the wiki that explains which repos do
what and WHICH should be on all the time and which should NOT…and
THEN give a TIMED exam with FIVE randomly changing questions (to make
cheating impossible) and require a minimum score of 99%…

of course the alternative could be to just start advertising NO
READING REQUIRED, EVER!


brassy

Here is the latest. I will get rid of google since i don’t use maps app. Also note that i use GNOME desktop only - no KDE.

| Alias | Name | Enabled | Refresh | Priority | Type | URI | Service
—±----------------------±----------------------------------------------------±--------±--------±---------±-------±------------------------------------------------------------------------------------±-------
1 | Google | Google | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | http://dl.google.com/linux/rpm/stable/i386 |
2 | Packman Repository | Packman Repository | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | Index of /pub/packman/suse/11.1 |
3 | openSUSE-11.1-Updates | openSUSE-11.1-Updates | Yes | Yes | 20 | rpm-md | Index of /update/11.1 |
4 | repo | NVIDIA Repository | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.nvidia.com/opensuse/11.1 |
5 | repo-debug | openSUSE-11.1-Debug | Yes | Yes | 100 | yast2 | Index of /debug/distribution/11.1/repo/oss |
6 | repo-non-oss | openSUSE-11.1-Non-Oss | Yes | No | 99 | yast2 | Index of /distribution/11.1/repo/non-oss |
7 | repo-oss | openSUSE-11.1-Oss | Yes | No | 99 | yast2 | Index of /distribution/11.1/repo/oss |
8 | repo-source | openSUSE-11.1-Source | Yes | Yes | 100 | yast2 | Index of /source/distribution/11.1/repo/oss |
9 | repo_1 | Main Repository (NON-OSS) | Yes | Yes | 99 | yast2 | Index of /distribution/11.1/repo/non-oss |
10 | repo_10 | openSUSE BuildService - Virtualization (QEMU) | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | Index of /repositories/Virtualization:/Qemu/openSUSE_11.1 |
11 | repo_11 | openSUSE BuildService - Virtualization (VirtualBox) | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | Index of /repositories/Virtualization:/VirtualBox/openSUSE_11.1 |
12 | repo_12 | openSUSE BuildService - X11:Compiz | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | Index of /repositories/X11:/Compiz/openSUSE_11.1 |
13 | repo_13 | openSUSE BuildService - XFCE | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | Index of /repositories/X11:/xfce/openSUSE_11.1 |
14 | repo_14 | openSUSE BuildService - Drivers for webcams | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | Index of /repositories/drivers:/webcam/openSUSE_11.1 |
15 | repo_15 | openSUSE BuildService - Games | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | Index of /repositories/games/openSUSE_11.1 |
16 | repo_16 | openSUSE BuildService - Mozilla | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | Index of /repositories/mozilla/openSUSE_11.1 |
17 | repo_17 | openSUSE BuildService - Database | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | Index of /repositories/server:/database/openSUSE_11.1 |
18 | repo_18 | openSUSE BuildService - Mail Server | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | Index of /repositories/server:/mail/openSUSE_11.1 |
19 | repo_19 | openSUSE BuildService - PHP | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | Index of /repositories/server:/php/openSUSE_11.1 |
20 | repo_2 | Main Repository (OSS) | Yes | Yes | 99 | yast2 | Index of /distribution/11.1/repo/oss |
21 | repo_21 | VideoLan Repository | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | Index of /pub/videolan/vlc/SuSE/11.1/ |
22 | repo_22 | Packman Repository | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | Index of /pub/packman/suse/11.1 |
23 | repo_23 | openSUSE Education | Yes | Yes | 99 | yast2 | Index of /download/repo/1.0/11.1 |
24 | repo_24 | ATI Repository | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | http://www2.ati.com/suse/11.1 |
25 | repo_3 | openSUSE BuildService - Wine CVS Builds | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | Index of /repositories/Emulators:/Wine/openSUSE_11.1 |
26 | repo_4 | openSUSE BuildService - GNOME:Community | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | Index of /repositories/GNOME:/Community/openSUSE_11.1 |
27 | repo_5 | openSUSE BuildService - GNOME:STABLE | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | Index of /repositories/GNOME:/STABLE/openSUSE_11.1 |
28 | repo_6 | openSUSE BuildService - KDE:Backports | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | Index of /repositories/KDE:/Backports/openSUSE_11.1 |
29 | repo_7 | openSUSE BuildService - KDE:Community | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | Index of /repositories/KDE:/Community/openSUSE_11.1 |
30 | repo_8 | openSUSE BuildService - Mono:Community | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | Index of /repositories/Mono:/Community/openSUSE_11.1 |
31 | repo_9 | openSUSE BuildService - OpenOffice.org | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | Index of /repositories/OpenOffice.org:/STABLE/openSUSE_11.1 |

Delete them all then add back these:

Oss
Index of /distribution/11.1/repo/oss

non-oss
Index of /distribution/11.1/repo/non-oss

Update
Index of /update/11.1

Packman
Index of /pub/packman/suse/11.1

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If you have a video card ati or nvidia then add one from here
Additional YaST Package Repositories - openSUSE

You must set the priority of OSS and NON-OSS to 120
Updates to 20
Leave everything else

Once done. Go to Yast - Software Management
Filter by Repository
Select ‘System’ (It should be the first in the list)
Then from the ‘Package’ menu button along the top select Update all in this list Unconditionally.
You can watch a video of the principle here: carl4926 - Unconditional Update in Yast Software management

If there are any repo’s you think you NEED other than the one I posted fair enough.

If i do this what happens to the existing installations from the repos i delete. For eg. if i remove/disable the Videolan repo then how does the VLC player i currently have get upgrades/updates?

Secondly, since i use GNOME; i do not get a menu on top of my Yast - Software manager. How do i get the menu? Am i missing something here?

You should only have ONE package from videolan and that’s ‘libdvdcss’. VLC player should be from Packman.
Your packages will be fine, many may roll back to different versions.
Gnome Yast is a bit crappy, you need the QT UI
Can do it this way: How To Get QT zypper GUI in GNOME YAST - openSUSE Forums

To be honest your system is in a bit of a mess. But removing the repos will not delete software, but some of it could be orphaned.

I will do a QT UI - it seems to unlock hidden functionalities (i love linux) :slight_smile: I am a little confused about the following repos and would need your advice. The fact is, there are some packages pulled from these repos but i am unsure if they will be available from the enabled packages later. And orphaned RPMs means no more updages/upgrades!

11 | repo_11 | openSUSE BuildService - Virtualization (VirtualBox) | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | Index of /repositories/Virtualization:/VirtualBox/openSUSE_11.1 |
12 | repo_12 | openSUSE BuildService - X11:Compiz | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | Index of /repositories/X11:/Compiz/openSUSE_11.1 |
13 | repo_13 | openSUSE BuildService - XFCE | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | Index of /repositories/X11:/xfce/openSUSE_11.1 |
14 | repo_14 | openSUSE BuildService - Drivers for webcams | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | Index of /repositories/drivers:/webcam/openSUSE_11.1 |
15 | repo_15 | openSUSE BuildService - Games | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | Index of /repositories/games/openSUSE_11.1 |
16 | repo_16 | openSUSE BuildService - Mozilla | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | Index of /repositories/mozilla/openSUSE_11.1 |
17 | repo_17 | openSUSE BuildService - Database | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | Index of /repositories/server:/database/openSUSE_11.1 |
19 | repo_19 | openSUSE BuildService - PHP | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | Index of /repositories/server:/php/openSUSE_11.1 |
30 | repo_8 | openSUSE BuildService - Mono:Community | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | Index of /repositories/Mono:/Community/openSUSE_11.1 |
31 | repo_9 | openSUSE BuildService - OpenOffice.org | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | Index of /repositories/OpenOffice.org:/STABLE/openSUSE_11.1 |
26 | repo_4 | openSUSE BuildService - GNOME:Community | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | Index of /repositories/GNOME:/Community/openSUSE_11.1 |
27 | repo_5 | openSUSE BuildService - GNOME:STABLE | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | Index of /repositories/GNOME:/STABLE/openSUSE_11.1 |
28 | repo_6 | openSUSE BuildService - KDE:Backports | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | Index of /repositories/KDE:/Backports/openSUSE_11.1 |
29 | repo_7 | openSUSE BuildService - KDE:Community | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | Index of /repositories/KDE:/Community/openSUSE_11.1 |

Basically most of these repos offer the same and some extra packages. Often the packages are newer than would be available from OSS. If packages are installed from one of those and are not available in your remaining repo’s you will have an orphaned package/s. It will still be installed but no updates to it, obviously.
It can take time to sort thru
But in Yast Software Management
Filter by repo
select in turn each in your list
Look thru the packages with the version filer and it will tell you where packages are from.

Maybe you should just leave it be. See how you get on, we sorted your main issue?!

I like your focus. I had almost forgotten that i resolved my main issue. This is what i think i will do:
> install QT UI (man i like it!)
> disable repos which haven’t installed any packages on my system

Is there a place where i can get the list of ‘default’ repos that are enabled with a LiveCD 11.1 installation?

Thank you for all your help !