No visible config/action buttons on widgets, folder views on KDE 4.4.x

Hi all,

It was a bit difficult to make a descriptive title so I will explain what my problem is.

Since KDE 4.4.3 I’m having no “close resize, rotate, config” buttons that ussually appear on the desktop widgets when you hover the mouse on them. Instead, an empty rectangle appears. If I blindly click where the buttons used to be, I’m able to close, resize, rotate and/or enter config. menu, but as I said I cannot see any buttons. This problem also exists in any folder view that I open on my desktop and also with the buttons that use to be next to the command line when you activate Alt+F2.

I already tried to rename the .kde and .kde4 folders, but had no luck with that. With a clean new desktop, I can see the buttons only in the original desktop decoration “Air Opensuse”. If I try to change to the ones that come with KDE (Air for netbooks & Aya) I’m having the problem again. With this I discard that the problem is from the windows decorations that you can download from kde-look.org.

Does anybody has a clue of what could be going on? Any help will be appreciated.

Thank you very much!

santasemilla wrote:
> I can see the buttons only in the
> original desktop decoration “Air Opensuse”

hmmmm: use what works, huh?

> Does anybody has a clue of what could be going on? Any help will be
> appreciated.

in my experience stuff disappearing is usually a graphic board/driver
problem…

try turning off desktop effects and see if it better then…

or, you might try 4.4.4 (seek instructions on how to install it
already posted in these fora, somewhere)


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Which desktop activity are you using?

It seems to me that now all adjustment is made via right click desktop - Configure

Hi, thanks for the help.

I’m using the normal Desktop activity. If I disable the effects nothing changes and yes, I’m using now KDE 4.4.4 and issue is still there.

caf4926, I don’t know what you mean by “all adjustment is made via right click desktop - Configure”. at most I can configure desktop activity settings by dong right click on the desktop.

You should use ‘Folder View’ (Not the folder widget added to the Plain desktop!)

It will look like this:
http://thumbnails15.imagebam.com/8525/09558a85244689.jpg](http://www.imagebam.com/image/09558a85244689)

Notice the available settings

Actually you can use the plain desktop and a folder widget, then right click the folder to get this:
http://thumbnails21.imagebam.com/8525/febd4285245082.jpg](http://www.imagebam.com/image/febd4285245082)

caf, I think he’s talking about when, say if you hover your mouse over the desktop folder view widget when the desktop is unlocked, that tab menu that appears with the resize, rotate, and configure options - those buttons aren’t appearing, but he’s still able to click where they would be and it works, and he’s wondering how to get them to appear again. I’d provide a screenshot but I’m at work and am using XP at the moment.

santasemilla,

Can you try installing a workspace theme that doesn’t come with kde? Such as glassified or glaze?

Take Care,

Ian

OK Ian
We await the OP

Not the Original Poster but have had the same problem - missing buttons on the tabs to the side of Folder View.

I have tested all the Desktop themes that come with 11.2 x86_64 (GeForce 7600 GS, NVIDIA 195.36.15) with the following results:

Folder View buttons DO appear:
Air openSUSE
Air
Aya
Oxygen
openSUSE

Folder View buttons DO NOT appear:
Eleonora
Glassified

Hope that helps.

Hi jenspen,

How did you install the themes? Did you download the tar.gz archives from kde-look.org or did you using the integrated Get New Stuff option to install the themes?

I ask because some themes have old and updated versions, where clicking on a small, almost unnoticeable, triangle to the right of the install button will let you choose between the two. I’ve had this happen with the Ghost theme before where it looked absolutely horrific since it wasn’t compatible with the current version of KDE.

Take Care,

Ian

Hi again,

I have never ‘installed’ a theme, simply chosen one from an openSUSE KDE (downloaded from an openSUSE repository) using KDE System Settings. I’ve never clicked ‘Get New Themes’ in System Settings or got a theme from kde-look.org.

I have always used the Glassified theme in KDE4 and only on openSUSE. The Folder View tab buttons used to be there.

I always update KDE and am currently testing 4.4.86.

I keep a record of bugs (but never reported this one) I see that I first noticed it on 8.4.2010 when I had just installed KDE 4.4.1, I think.

I have no idea if the buttons have been missing in the Eleonora theme Folder View for the same length of time - I had never tried that theme before yesterday.

From what you said about themes having old and updated versions, is it possible that the openSUSE packagers have given us the old versions of Glassified and Eleonora?

Hope this helps.

Well, as I’m testing the beta right now too, it was just an idea that maybe since our supported kde is 4.3 and not officially 4.4 that those themes in the repositories could be for 4.3 and may not work in 4.4 or 4.5. You can test this theory by downloading a theme from kde-look.org and then installing it from the tar.gz. Usually all you have to do is hit install theme and then choose the tar.gz archive file and it will automatically install the theme for you.

I know glassified works fine for me using the UNSTABLE repository on 11.2 and also the Factory repository on 11.2.

Edit: I guess that wouldn’t matter if you have the community kde repositories since they’ll have updated themes for the updated kde. I’ll have to check this out when I’m not at work.

As another thought, maybe you could try installing the files using the Get New Stuff button in systemsettings. Just throwing ideas out there.

Take care,

Ian

I have the same problem on a very old, low spec, machine. In addition, transparency doesn’t seem to work. I think the two are related and are theme specific.

Well, now we are talking! I abandoned my question after the first responses 'cause getting answers like “hmmmm: use what works, huh?” was not so encouraging to keep asking. Also yes, maybe I should have put some pictures from the beginning as caf4926 misunderstood my question, that was my bad.

Ok, here I have some pictures of the problem:

http://thumbnails14.imagebam.com/8593/79ce7785920406.jpg](http://www.imagebam.com/image/79ce7785920406)

and

http://thumbnails23.imagebam.com/8593/3dd64385920408.jpg](http://www.imagebam.com/image/3dd64385920408)

This theme in particular is Oxyglass, but again, the only theme which works is Air Opensuse. Even the standards that come when KDE after deleting the folders .KDE and .KDE4 are not working. The way I use to install themes is by “Get New Themes…” from kde-look.org I don’t see the small triangle next to the install button.

Anyway, it is not a terrible problem, I know! …but just wanted to get the things working and looking as they should! That’s why I moved to Linux :stuck_out_tongue:

cheers and thanks guys!

Please post result of

zypper lr -d

Here is the zypper lr -d output:

I think repos # 16 to 18 got there when I installed texmaker from the Opensuse Download page I think.

  | Alias                    | Name                     | Enabled | Refresh | Priority | Type   | URI                                                                                                | Service
---+--------------------------+--------------------------+---------+---------+----------+--------+----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+--------
1  | GNOME_Backports          | GNOME Backports          | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/GNOME:/Backports:/2.30/openSUSE_11.2/                    |        
2  | GNOME_Contributions      | GNOME Contributions      | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/GNOME:/Contrib/openSUSE_11.2/                            |        
3  | GNOME_Stable             | GNOME Stable             | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/GNOME:/STABLE:/2.28/openSUSE_11.2/                       |        
4  | KDE_4.3_Backports        | KDE 4 Backports          | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Backports/openSUSE_11.2/                            |        
5  | KDE_4.4_Community        | KDE 4.4 Community        | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Community/openSUSE_11.2_KDE4_Factory_Desktop  |        
6  | KDE_4.4_Core             | KDE 4.4 Core             | Yes     | Yes     |   90     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Factory:/Desktop/openSUSE_11.2                |        
7  | KDE_4.4_Playground       | KDE 4.4 Playground       | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Playground/openSUSE_11.2_KDE4_Factory_Desktop |        
8  | KDE_4_Qt_4.6             | KDE 4 Qt 4.6             | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE%3a/Qt46/openSUSE_11.2/                               |        
9  | Libdvdcss repository     | Libdvdcss repository     | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://opensuse-guide.org/repo/11.2/                                                               |        
10 | Multimedia               | Multimedia               | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/multimedia:/libs/openSUSE_11.2/                          |        
11 | NVIDIA Repository        | NVIDIA Repository        | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | ftp://download.nvidia.com/opensuse/11.2/                                                           |        
12 | OpenOffice               | OpenOffice               | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/OpenOffice.org:/STABLE/openSUSE_11.2/                    |        
13 | Packman                  | Packman                  | Yes     | Yes     |   90     | rpm-md | http://packman.unixheads.com/suse/11.2/                                                            |        
14 | Wine                     | Wine                     | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Emulators:/Wine/openSUSE_11.2/                           |        
15 | devel:tools:building     | devel:tools:building     | No      | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/devel:/tools:/building/openSUSE_Factory/                 |        
16 | home:Akoellh             | home:Akoellh             | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/Akoellh/openSUSE_11.2/                             |        
17 | home:j-engel             | home:j-engel             | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/j-engel/openSUSE_Factory/                          |        
18 | home:j-engel:KDE4        | home:j-engel:KDE4        | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/j-engel:/KDE4/openSUSE_Factory/                    |        
19 | openSUSE 11.2-0          | openSUSE 11.2-0          | No      | No      |   99     | yast2  | cd:///                                                                                             |        
20 | openSUSE:Factory:Contrib | openSUSE:Factory:Contrib | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Factory:/Contrib/openSUSE_11.2/                |        
21 | repo-debug               | openSUSE-11.2-Debug      | No      | No      |   99     | NONE   | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/distribution/11.2/repo/oss/                                     |        
22 | repo-non-oss             | openSUSE-11.2-Non-Oss    | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | yast2  | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.2/repo/non-oss/                                       |        
23 | repo-oss                 | openSUSE-11.2-Oss        | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | yast2  | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.2/repo/oss/                                           |        
24 | repo-source              | openSUSE-11.2-Source     | No      | No      |   99     | NONE   | http://download.opensuse.org/source/distribution/11.2/repo/oss/                                    |        
25 | repo-update              | openSUSE-11.2-Update     | Yes     | Yes     |   90     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/update/11.2/                                                          |       

Thanks!

Here lies your problem!

Almost certainly it’s the QT stuff. Not to mention the ridiculously long repo list. And I hesitate to make any recommendation because it’s a wonder your system actually boots.

Remove repo #8
Now open Software Management and search for all your QT packages, which should now be Red text, and check them to reinstall, this will roll them back.

Logout and back in

Report back if it has improved. This is a less aggressive approach than I might prefer.

Well… that didn’t fix the thing. Anyway, I think I’ll do a clean install some time soon when 11.3 will be out.

Regarding your comment about the repos, caf4926, it’s true! For me are also a lot of repos! But if you need to install some programs and they are not in the standard ones, how will you do? Usually when I go to Opensuse-Download in the need of something, you have to accept the repos Suse tells you. Yes, you can install and then erase the repos… but the updates?! Moreover, if you delete the repos then you start having a lot of red items in the Software Mannager. Also, I used to go back and forth from Gnome to KDE. It’s true that the Qt 4.6 is not necessary, but the rest I believe they are. …and they are like 6 in total (GNOME + KDE)! I mean, I’m asking because I would like to learn and of course avoid problems in the future. For me Yast is quite messy when you try to update and you can also “switch priorities” from the originals that you already set in your repos list. So what would you say it would be a good practice?

Thanks for the help!

Only you can determine how necessary a repo is. IMO that list is inflated by a desire to use the latest and greatest. Which is not necessarily bad in itself, but it’s somewhat risky as far as stability is concerned.

I say add the additional repos that you must and use the package switcher in Yast to give it priority in update (don’t change the repo priority, keep them all 99)
Like this: http://tinyurl.com/yejwull
Packman should be the last one you apply this way.

If I were to edit your repo list:

  | Alias                    | Name                     | Enabled | Refresh | Priority | Type   | URI                                                                                                | Service
---+--------------------------+--------------------------+---------+---------+----------+--------+----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+--------
1  | GNOME_Backports          | GNOME Backports          | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/GNOME:/Backports:/2.30/openSUSE_11.2/                    |        
2  | GNOME_Contributions      | GNOME Contributions      | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/GNOME:/Contrib/openSUSE_11.2/                            |        
3  | GNOME_Stable             | GNOME Stable             | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/GNOME:/STABLE:/2.28/openSUSE_11.2/                       |        
5  | KDE_4.4_Community        | KDE 4.4 Community        | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Community/openSUSE_11.2_KDE4_Factory_Desktop  |        
6  | KDE_4.4_Core             | KDE 4.4 Core             | Yes     | Yes     |   90     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Factory:/Desktop/openSUSE_11.2                |                                      
10 | Multimedia               | Multimedia               | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/multimedia:/libs/openSUSE_11.2/                          |        
11 | NVIDIA Repository        | NVIDIA Repository        | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | ftp://download.nvidia.com/opensuse/11.2/                                                           |        
13 | Packman                  | Packman                  | Yes     | Yes     |   90     | rpm-md | http://packman.unixheads.com/suse/11.2/                                                            |        
14 | Wine                     | Wine                     | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Emulators:/Wine/openSUSE_11.2/                           |        
15 | devel:tools:building     | devel:tools:building     | No      | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/devel:/tools:/building/openSUSE_Factory/                 |        
16 | home:Akoellh             | home:Akoellh             | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/Akoellh/openSUSE_11.2/                             |        
17 | home:j-engel             | home:j-engel             | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/j-engel/openSUSE_Factory/                          |        
18 | home:j-engel:KDE4        | home:j-engel:KDE4        | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/j-engel:/KDE4/openSUSE_Factory/                    |        
19 | openSUSE 11.2-0          | openSUSE 11.2-0          | No      | No      |   99     | yast2  | cd:///                                                                                             |        
20 | openSUSE:Factory:Contrib | openSUSE:Factory:Contrib | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Factory:/Contrib/openSUSE_11.2/                |        
21 | repo-debug               | openSUSE-11.2-Debug      | No      | No      |   99     | NONE   | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/distribution/11.2/repo/oss/                                     |        
22 | repo-non-oss             | openSUSE-11.2-Non-Oss    | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | yast2  | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.2/repo/non-oss/                                       |        
23 | repo-oss                 | openSUSE-11.2-Oss        | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | yast2  | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.2/repo/oss/                                           |        
24 | repo-source              | openSUSE-11.2-Source     | No      | No      |   99     | NONE   | http://download.opensuse.org/source/distribution/11.2/repo/oss/                                    |        
25 | repo-update              | openSUSE-11.2-Update     | Yes     | Yes     |   90     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/update/11.2/                                                          |