No network/internet

Hi all,

I am a newbie on Linux and I managed to install along with W8 but I cannot make the network card to work. I have Suse 12.3 with KDE. Its on ifup and when going in the networg setting the wireless and cable options are grey. I read a lot of topics on this matter so I have attached a printscreen for hwinfo --network maybe you can help :shame:

http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/13068583/640/13068583.png

You say “when going in the network setting”, but you do not explain what you do. Is that using YaST > Nework Services > Network Settings?

BTW your picture is unreadable. When you want to show things from a terminal window in a post here, please use the # button on the tool bar of the post editor. You then get CODE tags in your post. You then copy/paste from your terminal window in between those CODE tags.
Please post then complete, showing the terminal prompt, the command, it’s output up to inclusing the next prompt.

Yes, correct.

On 2013-05-17, sadicu <sadicu@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I am a newbie on Linux and I managed to install along with W8 but I
> cannot make the network card to work. I have Suse 12.3 with KDE. Its on
> ifup and when going in the networg setting the wireless and cable
> options are grey. I read a lot of topics on this matter so I have
> attached a printscreen for hwinfo --network maybe you can help :shame:
>
> [image: http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/13068583/640/13068583.png]

If you’re using KDE, I’d recommend using the Network Manager for wireless connections, for which find ifup capricious
(I’m suspecting you’re using a laptop). This can be done thus: Yast -> Network Devices -> Network Settings -> Global
Options -> User Controlled with NetworkManager -> OK.

Then life’s very easy. Just go to System Settings -> Network and Connectivity -> Network Settings, but be sure the
KDE network manager is active.

When changing I get the following error (Picture 1). Seemes that I do not have Network manager (picture 2 & 3) ? What to do next?

http://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a/13069597/640/13069597.png
http://www1.picturepush.com/photo/a/13069604/640/13069604.pnghttp://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a/13069617/640/13069617.png

Then please check with YaST > Software > Software Management if you have the package NetworkManager and NetworkManager-kfe4-libs installed.

It fact it should have been installed during your installation. Didn’t you have network connection during installation?

I had network setup during instlation and I choosed ifup…and the internet test failed but I moved on thinking that I can fix it afterwards… Can I install Network Manager offline?

Sorry for the pics but I am joggling between OS (since I dont have internet on SUSE)

what about opening a terminar and use yast (as root)?

Network Devices > Network Settings >


  Network Settings                              
  ┌Global Options──Overview──Hostname/DNS──Routing───────────────────────────┐ 
  │ ┌Network Setup Method──────────────────────────────────────────────────┐ │ 
  │ │(x) User Controlled with NetworkManager                               │ │ 
  │ │( ) Traditional Method with ifup                                      │ │ 
  │ └──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ │ 
  │ ┌IPv6 Protocol Settings────────────────────────────────────────────────┐ │ 
  │ │[x] Enable IPv6                                                       │ │ 
  │ └──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ │ 
  │ ┌DHCP Client Options───────────────────────────────────────────────────┐ │ 
  │ │DHCP Client Identifier                                                │ │ 
  │ │▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒│ │ 
  │ │Hostname to Send                                                      │ │ 
  │ │AUTO▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒│ │ 
  │ │[x] Change Default Route via DHCP                                     │ │ 
  │ └──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ │ 
  │                                                                          │ 
  │                                                                          │ 
  └──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ 

hope this helps

anyway you can do dhcpd eth0 or and rcnetwork restart in the terminal

regards,
maniat1k

I told you to check if you have it installed because it normaly should be. You did not answer that.

I’ve checked and they are instaleed, I have: Network Manager 0.9.6.4-5.3.1 & NetworkManager-kde4-libs 0.9.0.7-1.1.1 abd also other networkmanager (openvpn,pptp,vpnc etc).

I’ve reinstalled suse and i got again before internet connection trst the failure message: “no network running” …

I’ve done that, and i get the warning that the network is controlled by Networkmanager etc, and dont know what you want me to do as I have the save screen/settings as you showed…
In overview tab devices wlan0 (Broadcom WLAN controller) and eth0 (RTL8101E/RTL8102e PCI Express Controller) are “Not connercted”

Broadcom WLAN Controller (Not Connected)
MAC: ,
BUS ID: ,
Device Name: wlan0
Started automatically at boot
IP address assigned using DHCP

What to do to enable them ?

When they are there, there is no need to install them of course.

And the need for a complete reinstallation eludes me.

From your posts above, I see you have both a cabled and a Wifi NIC. But you did not tell which one you are trying and whicjhh one you tried to configure during installation. The cabled one is of course the most easy one to configure and for the Wifi we have a separate Wireless subforum where you can read in the “sticky” posts what you should provide your helpers to make them able to help you.

So please tell if you are happy to try the cable first, then we can concentrate on that.

I have a very similar issue to the OP with NetworkManager, but on a 12.2 KDE system installed roughly 2 months ago when the installation selected ifup for the wired network device. Wireless also works with ifup. However I prefer to use NetworkManager, but get exactly the same error message “No network running” as @OP. It fails to work for NetworkManager with both wired and wireless. I have it working perfectly on 12.3 and a much older 12.2 test system. To me this looks like a software/config problem. Please correct me if I am wrong, but systemd is involved in this for both 12.2 and 12.3 (even more).

I know my hardware is working. Please concentrate on the OP’s situation. I will follow the thread, test any suggestions, and share any updates/potential solutions. :slight_smile:

This is now fixed ! rotfl! Dont know what solved it (i was trying to configure the wifi)since ive spent the whole night on forums and trying all suggestions but it paid off, finally is working :slight_smile: Thanks a lot hcvv for your time and patience.

Cheers !

That’s a coincidence, I also solved mine since posting! :smiley:

This is what fixed it for me on 12.2 KDE:

Deleted both wired and wireless device configurations with YaST > Network Devices > Network Settings and rebooted. Those now remain “Not configured”. Ensured NetworkManager was restarted, and also removed and reapplied the system tray’s Network Management applet via System Tray Settings. I think I did a final reboot.

Clicking on the tray applet displayed the available wireless AP’s and selecting one popped up the usual Settings display, followed by a successful connection! Since the wired network was unplugged, it needed enabling in the tray applet, for future use.

Well, it seems that both of you are now satisfied after a more or less miraculous recovery.

I am glad I could be of any help, if in only in listening and kicking a bit here and there.
Sometimes it is not realy needed to understand the problem, but one can already help by the simple fact that a problem owner is pressed to describe his problem carefully. lol!

Yes, I would say relieved here. :slight_smile: Maybe miraculous, in the sense I wouldn’t have bothered posting if I hadn’t seen the thread, and become more motivated. I had already wasted a lot of time searching the forum unsuccessfully, removed and re-installed Network Manager twice, looked through uninstalled packages for anything obviously missing, and tried various other things.

I had been through the stickies in the Wireless section to see how it looked with ifup, which was working. At the very end of one of Larry’s excellent step-by-step guides, there were some comments about it being easy to delete a wireless device, and restart so the system could allow for new configuration. I thought it might give NetworkManager a better chance to take care of that business. It did, and I got lucky! :slight_smile: