No need for Nepomuk and Akonadi in your future, look at KLyDE

Interesting article in Linux Magazine:

An openSUSE project called KLyDE plans to streamline the KDE desktop.
KDE Gets a Refit - Linux Magazine

snippet:
Stephenson has several goals for KLyDE. The first involves a revision of the standard KDE packages, removing from the standard installation features such as Nepomuk and Akonadi and the tasked-based Activities workspaces that aren’t used by everyone.

KLyDE seems like something a lot of users want.

I wonder how it’ll compare with Trinity (forked from KDE3).

It’s a good concept. To help make KDE very light if one wants, maybe even woo the LXDE crowd, or as full-featured as one wants (and one’s system can handle).

KDE is already a very flexible environment with the different Plasma desktops.

When I installed openSUSE 12.3 on my main laptop I opted to Xfce in part because of its lighter footprint than Gnome or KDE. My exploratory desktop has oS 12.3 w/KDE and I find it slightly sluggish for a 3 GHz system.

I like the concept.

Ran the Live image from USB. It’s fast, really fast. And the good thing is, that one can extend it to a full blown KDE.

I wonder whether it will remain a demonstrator or will openSUSE switch to klyde in future ?

On 04/23/2013 04:16 AM, vazhavandan wrote:
> I wonder whether it will remain ademonstrator or will openSUSE
> switch to klyde in future ?

i would not use the word “switch”…maybe we will see the BlueRay
offer the installing human a selection of any/all (ordered
alphabetically) of these DEs/looks:

Ambient
Android
Awsome
Blackbox
CDE
Cinnamon
Compiz
EDE
Enlightment
Ètoilè
Fluxbox
FWWM
GNOME
IceWM
KDE3
KDE4
KDE SC
KLyDE
LXDE
MATE
Metacity
Mezzo
Openbox
OS/2
OSX
Ratpoison
Razor-qt
Redmond 3.1, 95, NT, 98, 2K, XP, Vista, 7, 8 . . .
ROX
Trinity
UDE
Unity
Window Maker
Xfce
Xfwm
xmonad

source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desktop_environment
plus/minus some…


dd

Won’t happen, and you know that.

KlyDE will be an alternative for those who cannot (or do not want to) run a full blown KDE. The modular design of KDE allows this. Other examples of the flexibility of KDE are already out there: the plasma-netbook interface, plasma-active. KlyDE is more than just dropping Nepomuk en Akonadi (both of which work fine on my machines, in spite of all the fuzz about them just being an annoyance).

It would be really good if KDE implemented some of this “buffet of choice” conecpt, so it wouldn’t have to be yet another desktop environment package (like Xfce and Lxde).

I don’t think there is a probablitily of this, but you never know once the code is put together and a lot of the work is done it may just be easier for KDE to introduce or implement it.

On 2013-04-23 14:16, dragonbite wrote:
>
> It would be really good if KDE implemented some of this “buffet of
> choice” conecpt, so it wouldn’t have to be yet another desktop
> environment package (like Xfce and Lxde).

Yes, that would be a good thing, IMO.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 12.1 x86_64 “Asparagus” at Telcontar)

You are looking for YaST pattern ? It might make a good feature request

It would be, but perhaps the KDE developers are more concerned about ending up with users avoiding to test their latest “works in progress”, e.g. akonadi, nepomuk, and the like.

A video of KLyDE on a 2-core 1GB of RAM VM. Still more powerful than my primary (openSUSE) machines but gives a feel to the lightness and speed.

//youtu.be/aSEqUaOmh78

I don’t think so. One of the goals of plasma/kde was to have modularity. That has already brought plasma-netbook, plasma-active.

For openSUSE this could be a pattern maybe, or have it’s own repo, live images etc.

  • Knurpht wrote, On 04/22/2013 10:56 PM:
    > Ran the Live image from USB. It’s fast, really fast. And the good thing
    > is, that one can extend it to a full blown KDE.

Which, in my case, would mean adding Akonadi in order to access my Google data :slight_smile:

Uwe

My comment referred to dragonbite’s “It would be really good if KDE implemented some of this “buffet of choice” conecpt, so it wouldn’t have to be yet another desktop environment package (like Xfce and Lxde)”. Well they clearly haven’t so far with Plasma Desktop (PC’s and Notebooks). The ability to select out the likes of akonadi, nepomuk, and other bloatware has become increasingly unrealistic. KDE’s modularity so far hasn’t produced enough component separation for that or a lighter software compilation (from the KDE developers). If it’s not to force user testing of unpopular applications (I am being provocative, since some alternatives are less worthy), then what is the reason?

Modularity reduces complexity for the developers, leading to fewer errors, and easier maintenance. KDE Plasma, by separating components, reduces the overall programming effort e.g. when producing plasma-netbook, plasma-active, and any future desktops. That’s all good stuff, but does every plasma workspace have to have the same applications and services?

For openSUSE this could be a pattern maybe, or have it’s own repo, live images etc.

Are you referring to KlyDE or KDE implemented with a “buffet of choice”?