No more bad boy windows for me!

Yes finally, I’ve taken the plunge of eradicating MS from my main PC after 5 years of dual booting!!! This has been in all ways due to my absolute love of oS 11.4; this is a truly great version of Linux and although it doesn’t support the doze software I thought I needed, I am now trying out the Linux equivalents with a-lot of success (I love painting and was using Corel Painter). The final straw was my latest find of mal-ware detected and the realisation of the amount of time I was spending doing security checks, defragging and finding updates… basically admin and not enjoyment! Don’t get me wrong I understand the importance of security in Linux, but it seems so much less of a chore!

Now I’m enjoying, IMHO, a legendary version of our favourite flavour of Linux and I can forget that stress of windows… Or can I? My Wife and Son still dual boot and yesterday I was struggling to get a wireless dongle to work on vista even though it was instantly recognised by Kubuntu… You’ve got to laugh :smiley:

Nice one. Also in general people don’t realise how bare Windows is as sold, you have to pay for all kinds of apps or worry about whether that free app you downloaded is trustworthy. Linux distros come with an embarrassment of riches in FOSS.

Congratulations :slight_smile:

Have you tried MyPaint? MyPaint

I have it packaged up in one of my home repositories;
Index of /repositories/home:/malcolmlewis:/Python/openSUSE_11.4 is down at the moment…

On 04/05/2011 03:36 AM, Penguinclaw wrote:
> I can forget that stress of windows… Or can I? My Wife
> and Son still dual boot and yesterday I was struggling to get a wireless
> dongle to work on vista

friends don’t let friends drive drunk, so why should you let your family
suffer with expensive, deficient, and malware-magnet software?

ween them also, here is something to think about:

MALCOLM: thanks for MyPaint, it is fantastic!
but, now i guess i have to buy a tablet, or touch-screen :slight_smile:

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Thank you, I tried looking for MyPaint in build but it came back negative. I will give your package a go as I have heard this is a cool app! So thanks in advance :slight_smile:

DenverD you are so right! Trouble is for my son he needs windows to do his homework as his school insists on using windos explorer exclusively and his Fender amp also is only compatible with windows… But having said that after we went through an install on his machine he really hates proprietary c**p and windows in general. I think he thought I was exaggerating how long it would take me to get windows safely up and running… So he is a BIG fan of Linux, actually as is my wife, for similar reasons!!!

Thanks, Ken_yap! I agree windows is such a bad software model. I am not blessed with the skills to program (but intend to learn) but the open source method is superior to closed source that surely hinders development?

When I graduate from New Jersey Institute of Technology with my Masters of Science in IT Administration and Security degree by December 2012, I will delete my Microsoft Windows 7 virtual machine. Actually, I plan to upgrade to Microsoft Windows 8 since I get a free copy as a graduate student at NJIT.

Windows 7 is a good operating system, but the problem is that it is buggy as hell when it comes to installing third-party proprietary drivers for hardware. This results in a lot of crashes and blue screens of death.

I hope that Microsoft will fix these problems with Windows 8, but I am not holding my breath on it. They do tend to offer pretty good legacy driver support within Windows, but driver compatibility is still a hit and miss type of deal.

I wish that I could ditch Microsoft Windows, but I doubt that I will. I am still entrenched in the Microsoft mindset to switch over to GNU/Linux completely. Microsoft owns me.

Ahhhhhhh!!! The Devil owns your soul :D, Seriously though I know what you mean in that most business and home users are brain-washed (or whatever) into MS being the only thing that exists unless they go shiny, expensive Apple. Mind surely there is a lot of potential work for you within server market, embedded, or android stuff? Even if you end up needing Windows at work, please spend your pleasure time in Linux and make your newly found skills available to the community :wink:

Good luck with your Masters and give us a low down on Windows 8 :slight_smile:

I am performing better during my second semester at NJIT. I expect to earn a B average for my Principles of Operating Systems course which I am taking this spring 2011 semester. In the fall 2011 semester, I will be taking 9.00 credit hours or three courses within my masters degree program. I had to take three bridge courses which are undergraduate courses to prepare me for the masters degree program because my bachelor of arts degree was in English Creative Writing and it is unrelated to my masters degree program.

I will say that Microsoft Windows 8 may introduce cloud computing and appliance features in Windows 8 along with making it be able to run on ARM powered devices such as tablets. The cloud computing feature will make significant portions of the Windows 8 code base available on Microsoft cloud servers. When you purchase Microsoft Windows 8 and install it on your computer, you will get a local kernel and a cloud kernel. The local kernel allows you to use Microsoft Windows 8 when you are not connected to a network or the Internet. The cloud kernel contains the latest version of the Windows 8 kernel and extra features such as the rest of the new features found in Windows 8 such as the ability to restore your computer back to a windows restore point much like turning on an appliance such as a toaster oven. What I mean by this is that you will be able to go back to a previously good configuration with a few clicks of the mouse buttons. The cloud services will enhance Microsoft’s control over its Windows 8 portfolio by verifying the license key and activation status of each and every copy through the cloud when you go connect to a network or the Internet. Microsoft Windows 8 will also feature a lot of improvements and bug fixes in the code base so it should be able to cold boot within under 30 seconds on new computers that are certified to be compatible. This will make Windows 8 much more competitive with Apple Macintosh OS X and GNU/Linux in this important performance metric. Users of Microsoft Windows 8 will also be able to use cloud services such as the Microsoft SkyDrive to upload, save, and synchronize along with collaborate with Microsoft Office documents with fellow co-workers. There will be other new features that will be revealed as we get closer to 2012 and Microsoft begins to leak information about Windows 8.

I will have to say that these features do not constitute major improvements at face value. It is still early to tell what other features will be incorporated into the final shipping version of Microsoft Windows 8.

Linux has been around for 20 years and its adoption into mainstream culture and society has been quite disappointing in my opinion. Except for one fellow classmate who boots Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick Meerkat 64 bit in my course at NJIT, I am the only one who uses GNU/Linux and I am the only one who uses OpenSUSE 64 bit on campus. I had a conversation with another classmate who owns an Acer TravelMate notebook PC and he only uses Microsoft Windows 7. He grew up using Microsoft Windows and that is the only operating system that he has ever used his entire life. I found that statement to be particularly sad though I said nothing to him about my private opinions.

Say what you will about Microsoft corporation and Windows, but they sure know how to design an operating system an a panoply of products that meet the needs of most computer users worldwide. Most people have never heard about GNU/Linux or BSD or Solaris. They have no idea about F.O.S.S. They equate freeware software applications with open source products only if it is available to them on the Windows platform. People put up with their computers getting slower over time, becoming infected with viruses, malware, spyware, and rootkits, and they are used to paying high prices for software applications to perform basic functions because that is all they know when using Windows. I used to be one of them.

I wish there was a set of compelling reasons for me to abandon Microsoft Windows altogether. However, both New Jersey Institute of Technology and Polytechnic Institute at New York University require Microsoft Windows in order to complete the requirements of a degree program upon graduation. This means that I will be using Microsoft Windows for the next 7 years. At that time, Microsoft will release Windows 9 to the general public if they stick to their 3 year release cycle. Microsoft Office will reach version 16 at that time. My future employer will probably require me to administer and secure Microsoft Windows unless I specifically choose a job title that requires GNU/Linux distributions such as Red Hat Enterprise Linux or SUSE Linux Enterprise Server. lists more job vacancies requiring Linux administration skills and experience. With the fact of the matter that the United States economy and job market is still in a frail state of long-term recovery, more businesses are trying to save money on IT costs by switching to Linux. The explosion of Google Android tablets and smartphones also requires people with strong skills with GNU/Linux and IT security backgrounds to protect confidential and private data that is frequently stored and transmitted on these devices.

The future looks bright for me. Listing my skills set with Red Hat, Novell, and Ubuntu GNU/Linux distributions makes me much more marketable. I use Linux for personal reasons, but I rely upon Microsoft Windows for enterprise reasons.

One thing that I will write is my concern regarding Microsoft Windows 8 and its compatibility with alternative operating systems especially with GNU/Linux. The fact of the matter is that Microsoft will make it harder to dual boot both Windows 8 and your choice of GNU/Linux distribution because there will be a local and cloud based kernel. Updates including hot fixes, patches, and service packs will be made available through the cloud kernel that will effect the entire Windows partition. Any decision on the part of the user to perform a system restore to an earlier known good configuration will overwrite the master boot record and it will effect GRUB or GRUB 2 boot loader. Microsoft is designing Windows 8 so that it is the sole and primary operating system that resides on your computer. It will also effect Ubuntu users that choose to install through WUBI because there will be a lot of changes to the Windows kernel that will make it more difficult to run both Windows 8 and Ubuntu vis-a-vis. In fact, Canonical is designing Ubuntu so that you can run it through a web browser in the future and they are moving away from WUBI in the future.

Lastly, I have to write about Apple OS X. My friend is a captain in the US Army and he is stationed at Kadeema air base in Okinawa, Japan. He owns an Apple MacBook. He plans to buy a new Apple MacBook Pro 15" early 2011 model. It costs $1,799.00 USD. You should visit the Apple website to see its paltry set of hardware specifications.

Compare that with a new Hewlett Packard Elitebook 8560w mobile workstation for $1,650.00 USD. I am getting a much better value for the money and I can run SLED 11 SP1 on it along with Microsoft Windows 8 Professional 64 bit within VMWare Workstation 7. Mine will be much faster, much more secure, and much more durable along with costing a less money than his. Yet, Apple MacBook Pros are selling like hot cakes at Apple stores worldwide. It is amazing. People pay that kind of money just so that they can have the Apple logo emblazoned on their products.

I will not pursue any Apple certifications because I am against their products and the expensive price tags. I think they are a rip off.

On 04/16/2011 03:06 PM, wellywu wrote:
> I will not pursue any Apple certifications because I am against their
> products and the expensive price tags. I think they are a rip off.

they provide a lot more value to the user per dollar spent on software
than do the Redmond crowd…

sure Apple hardware cost more than bottom tier quality made for Windows
consumer machines…

BUT if you buy comparable quality/reliability hardware (the performance
specifications are different from the quality level) certified for
professional Linux use you will find the hardware prices comparable…of
course you always have to expect to pay a premium for really well
designed and packaged merchandise…

no sir, the rip off artist in today’s game is not Apple, but Microsoft…

i use neither, so don’t get confused as a Apple fanboy (i buy mid level
quality hardware with no system, and install only Linux)

by the way, i wish you well in your studies, but i am sad (for you) that
you are in a school which requires its students to use nose-ring software…


[NNTP via openSUSE 11.3 + KDE4.5.5 + Thunderbird3.1.8]
Q: Why do you upgrade?
A: Because the Gecko is always greener on the other side!
So said k428 in

They are both ripoffs for different reasons. Apples hardware is often designed with a kind of neat inventiveness, but the quality is not worth the price at all (I know some Apple-fanboys and -girls, and they basically have the same troubles as anyone else). While MacOS surely is highly adapted on the hardware it is running (and vice versa), one will notice that Apples update- and bugfix policy is both pretty slow and intransparent.

And when it comes to well… the attitude towards the customers, Apple surely is not better or worse than Microsoft. Which is natural, since they both want to make money. And that’s what they do.

Congratulations from me, that’s the best new who I have ever listened, because it is difficult to become independent from windows and making his/her pc one-boot. Welcome also to group of independents from windows. I have used windows since 1999.
Maybe I am the second one. The first was Linus.;):slight_smile:

Yes and no.
Apple hardware is designed in house which has some benefits. Hardware and software play much nicer together with lesser problems than your standard PC which can be having parts from all over the world.
Of course you get also a well designed computer or device.
Some people despise this because they don’t like either company or just simply think they are to powerful anyway.
MS on the other hand has to have a lot of drivers to make all the hardware work. And there is a lot of hardware from thousands of manufactures.
PC hardware is more open with many players, where Apple is closed world with just one player.
Both have benefits and disadvantages.

Security is a real problem with Apple and thats because of the attitude Apple has. Since the problems are so far small or minor, there is no need for them to change this. And, it appears, there are not a lot of people complaining.
The question is, how long can Apple go on with this path.

Hardware and software play much nicer together with lesser problems than your standard PC which can be having parts from all over the world.

I used to think so myself, but apparently Apple users have to face the same problems as we all do - and if they do, chances are that these problems will take a while until they get solved. Knoppix-developer Klaus Knopper has a →blog (sorry, it’s in german, use a translator) about his experiences with Mac - quite interesting insofar as Knopper is a unixhead, so he offers quite a fresh perspective by comparing Mac not with Windows, but with Linux. One occasion he describes was that of a flickering monitor, which took Apple weeks to even admit that there was a problem (which many users suffered from), not to mention providing a fix for it (over two months…). Hardware has flaws, no doubt, but when paying 1000s of bucks, one would expect at least some kind of transparency.

The software itself is not of the highest standard either. While there can hardly be a doubt that many applications are well done and inventive, they also suffer from bugs. And why shouldn’t they? Only these bugs are often slowly fixed, even if they refer to security issues. The unixoid parts of MacOS (bash, X-Window System etc.) are badly integrated within the system and often enough old as the hills. The handling can be quite frustrating when for example the magic mouse does not work properly within a virtual machine or when a terminal does not even offer a decent pager or when cmd+tab does not take all windows into account - just a few examples that show that basically the only advantage of the Apple way is that one does not have to fiddle with setting up a system. That is an advantage, but well… it’s not everything. And it’s definitely not worth that much money.

Don’t get me wrong: when I am sitting in front of a Mac computer, I am amazed by the love for details, the fresh approaches, it’s all so very smooth and seamless, true. But under the hood it’s still just a PC, with the (potentially) same hardware and the same chances for bugs. I don’t quite see the difference (okay, there’s the design, but seriously, it is a matter of taste, and it’s not mine).

Also I personally think that a modular system has →some technical advances as well. :slight_smile:

I just will say this.
You are right in some way and i was reading the blog. No need for translation its my native language. :slight_smile:
There are always some problems, after all its not a perfect world. And, kinda heresy, Apple is not perfect either.
Linux on a box like this would make the best computer ever. Just my take.
But i get the pointing with the finger on the value vs service/communications. Right now, they above the flow. That will change once there is a serious problem. I was reading last time in the 'ct (sonderheft) about some of the flaws Apple has. Yeah, they do not listen well, do they.