No Bios/Boot Menu

Hi, I just installed OpenSuse and I’m trying to reinstall my original Windows 7 OS back on this laptop. Since I couldn’t partition an active hard drive, I tried to put GParted on a USB so I could create a Windows Partition…

Found out that my Boot Menu only has 1 option: Grub. I can also access the Diagnostic Tool but that just tells me my RAM and HD space. My CD/Flash Drive, USB, and Network options are all gone; there is only Grub on my Boot menu. To make matters worse, my BIOS can’t be accessed; I press F2 to enter as usual, it beeps to tell me it’s entering the BIOS as usual, then it loads up Grub. I can’t access anything! I’ve Googled for hours on various things regarding the BIOS and the Boot Menu and nothing’s come up…

If you have anything, please share; thank you in advance for your help.

Accessing the BIOS is a hardware issue. Installing opensuse should not have any effect on that.

Ok need to know some things

  1. I assume openSUSE 13.1 was installed without any Windows

  2. You wanted to reinstall windows for a dual boot??

  3. You have a real Windows disk not some image version

  4. You went through some Install procedure

  5. now you get a grub menu bit can not cannot boot openSUSE

  6. You have an old style BIOS not EFI

  7. Don’t know what this means please expand

can also access the Diagnostic Tool but that just tells me my RAM and HD space. My CD/Flash Drive, USB, and Network options are all gone

  1. would be nice to know what “this laptop” is. We can’t see over your shoulder

Please correct any of the above assumptions

I had a Windows 7 Partition but I let the installer wipe it since it was a clean install anyway.

  1. You wanted to reinstall windows for a dual boot??

Yes

  1. You have a real Windows disk not some image version

No, an ISO and a usb I can make bootable; left my disk at home when I went up for university

  1. You went through some Install procedure

Essentially, yes.

Long story: I made GParted bootable from my USB so I could unmount my harddrive and partition it to set up for Windows but I couldn’t get it to run from a USB

  1. now you get a grub menu bit can not cannot boot openSUSE

Double negatives are confusing but I can ONLY boot openSUSE (and advance options from openSUSE). And I can only acces the Grub menu.

  1. You have an old style BIOS not EFI

Not entirely sure but it’s always been aclled a BIOS by my computer.

  1. Don’t know what this means please expand

My Boot Menu has 2 tabs, Tools and Boot. On Boot I just have Grub.
On Tools I have Diagonostic Tools which I ran and it just told me my RAM and HD Space.
I also have Diagnostic Screen which just displays the text for the Diagnostic Tools. Weird.

  1. would be nice to know what “this laptop” is. We can’t see over your shoulder

RIght, sorry about that Fujitsu Lifebook LH532

Looking that machine up it seems to be an optimus video ie Intel+NVIDIA.

This take special care in setting up and you must install a package called bumblebee to make things work more or less as expected

http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:NVIDIA_Bumblebee

Anyway I’m reasonably sure that this is an EFI BIOS based machine

Installing Windows after installing Linux almost always is a problem

Still not clear if you actually did a Windows install???

Also not clear what this 2 tabs at boot is but I assume it is a BIOS function for this machine

So as I understand you can get a grub screen and can successfully boot to recovery in advanced section. This is to be expected since you have an optimus machine and the basic software does not know how to handle the odd video setup.

Follow the instruction exactly on the bumblebee page I cited above. This should straighten out video for openSUS.

Windows I don’t know. But do not install unless first you back up any important data you have in Linux and then be prepared to reinstall Linux after the Windows install. Or if you can find someone on campus that really knows Linux and Windows that can help you

On 2014-07-12 20:06, bhchoi78 wrote:
>
> gogalthorp;2653562 Wrote:
>> Ok need to know some things
>>
>> 1) I assume openSUSE 13.1 was installed without any Windows
> I had a Windows 7 Partition but I let the installer wipe it since it was
> a clean install anyway.
>
>> 2) You wanted to reinstall windows for a dual boot??
> Yes

That’s a problem.

The general recommendation is to install Windows first, then Linux,
because usually Windows destroys the Linux install.

If you create the partition for Windows in advance, it is easier to tell
Windows to install there, not on the whole disk.

>> 3) You have a real Windows disk not some image version
> No, an ISO and a usb I can make bootable; left my disk at home when I
> went up for university

You can download a new Windows disk, as long as you have a valid license.

http://www.howtogeek.com/186775/how-to-download-windows-7-8-and-8.1-installation-media-legally/

>> 5) now you get a grub menu bit can not cannot boot openSUSE
> Double negatives are confusing but I can ONLY boot openSUSE (and advance
> options from openSUSE). And I can only acces the Grub menu.
>
>> 6) You have an old style BIOS not EFI
> Not entirely sure but it’s always been aclled a BIOS by my computer.

It looks like UEFI, because this one is known to “be able” (so to speak)
to block access to the “bios” boot menu, and only boot the operating system.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” at Telcontar)

I’d assume so on the 2 tabs at boot thing too since it’s OS independent.

Will straightening out the video stuff let me access my BIOS and full boot menu? And since Linux is a recent install, it doesn’t matter.

Yes I had a Windows install originally which is now deleted for my OpenSUSE install.

On 2014-07-13 00:06, bhchoi78 wrote:

> Will straightening out the video stuff let me access my BIOS and full
> boot menu?

Of course not.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” at Telcontar)

Okay, yeah, I thought not…

So, I have the windows 7 ISO and I made a bootable USB drive but I can’t access it nor GParted (againfrom bootable USB) because I can’t access my BIOS nor my full Boot Menu. Basically, still at square 1… Is there anything I could try to begin to undo this mess?

Thanks again for any help anyone has to offer.

Most EFI use f10 as a hot key at boot to select a OS at boot. You might check the documentation on the BIOS that machine runs to see other keys that might help.

Documentation didn’t mention F10 key (other than save & exit at BIOS Setup screen).

Tried it anyway and no luck.

Also, Fujitsu has a BIOS driver out… Could that be relevant in any way? The website for the company that does my driver didn’t have it but Fujitsu did. Unfortunately, they only come out as windows drivers…

Do you mean a patch or a “driver” Windows need "drivers for some function on some motherboards. Generally Linux does not.

A BIOS patch or update may help but as you see it is often dependent on Windows to install one.

As to keys that is wholly dependent on the manufacturer

Installing Windows after Linux is always a problem because Windows has no respect for any other OS and mess it up more times then not. It can be done if you are an expert. It is always easier to install Linux after Windows since Linux does respect other OS’s

The second problem is optimus (Intel+NVIDIA) video. It is a truly a bad idea to mix brands of video. It can be managed but again it takes some knowledge. Bumblebee is made to help in this but you have to follow the instructions exactly since you can’t use the normal NVIDIA driver and must use the one mentioned on the page I referenced in an earlier post . Unfortunately a lot of laptop makers ae using the optimus configuration which means any that install Linux must understand they must take extra steps to make things work right. Maybe someday the optimus fade will die and make things easier for people to jump away from Windows. Rub Goldberg would be proud rotfl!

It said Driver. But as it’s Windows dependent either way…

I set up BumbleBee as that article stated; I haven’t had any issues with any graphics…

I’ll try installing Windows then reinstalling openSUSE but I’m not sure if I can since my boot menu isn’t recognizing my USB… Or my CD Drive (so I can’t burn the iso either).

Did you switch to ‘secure boot’ mode somehow ??

Anyway, there usually always is a key to enter the BIOS setup.

Did you look up the documentation?

For me the DEL key works (ASUS motherboard).
Other keys may be ALT-F1 etc.

Good luck
Mike

Failed to install Windows or anything else.

And it’s F2. I press it; it beeps (like it always does to tel me I pressed F2 or F10) and then it does nothing; skips straight past the bios.

I’ve tried every button thusfar. I’ve accessed the BIOS fine before… I’ll try DEL, ALT+F1, etc. in case it somehow magically changed…

Hi
So it’s the F2 key for the BIOS and F12 to get to the boot menu, so you can boot from the dvd;
http://solutions.us.fujitsu.com/www/content/pdf/SupportGuides/BIOS_Guide_FPC58-3035-01_rA.pdf

Power on and keep tapping the key, not just press once or press and hold. You don’t need to also press the Fn key as you may have the BIOS set to use this for the F keys.

Hi,

Yeah, I’ve tried that. The Boot Menu (as mentioned in the original post) is empty of options other than openSUSE and F2 isn’t responding. I’ve been tapping the key.

Please show output of “efibootmgr -v” in openSUSE. It could be that other options are still there but inactive. As for BIOS - I’m afraid you need to contact vendor support how to reset settings. There is little that can be done from openSUSE side here.