On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 02:16:03 +0000, kastorff wrote:
> But we hope everyone agrees that combining the experience and commentary
> of both openSUSE member groups is a win for us all.
There’s nothing you said I disagree with, Keith - while I personally
don’t like web-based forums, my wife loves them, and I understand why. I
absolutely appreciate having an NNTP interface available, as I’ve said
elsewhere, because otherwise I wouldn’t be able to participate at all
because of time constraints.
I would say, though, that the organization of the Novell forums over the
years has varied greatly - and has included components of products (in
fact, the SLES forums currently are sorta organized that way - with
groups for install-boot, configure-administer, hardware, networking,
updates, and virtualization. My history with the Novell forums extends
back before they were in NNTP, through several iterations (including on
CompuServe, Proxicom, Hypernews at one point, and the current Twister/
I think it is possible, even with a single product being covered, to
break things down into a logical structure that users can easily
understand with a minimal need for administrative work with thread
management tasks. The breakout that I see right now looks very good to
me and based on my own past experiences SysOping for Novell as well as
moderating some other online communities over the years that if someone,
for example, posted a message to the help.hardware group and asked about
running something on an AMD 64-bit system, a nudge to repost over in the
hardware.64-bit group would work just as well (if not better, IMHO) to
get questions in the right place. If you move a thread that originates
on the NNTP side, the NNTP client isn’t going to know about that move,
and if it’s a group not subscribed to, that will cause people to wonder
why they’re not being answered.
I also participate in the opensuse-user mailing list (via gmane);
redirection there is similar to NNTP groups, and when something starts
going offtopic, a suggestion to follow-up to the offtopic list is
generally put out there as a reply. That list doesn’t seem to be on
gmane, so I tend to not follow those discussions, but at least I know
where it’s gone.
But the bottom line for me is that the communities have come together,
and I see that as an immensely positive thing. I’ve argued on a number
of mailing lists and groups where people have said “hey, we need a forum
for this, so I’ve created one” against fragmenting the community; a
strong and large community only helps a project, whereas a fragmented
community dissipates the resources, and that’s very rarely a good thing.
So kudos to everyone involved in bringing things together.