On 2013-07-17 21:43, JtWdyP wrote:
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> It would appear that on Jul 17, Carlos E. R. did say:
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>> On 2013-07-16 21:04, JtWdyP wrote:
>>> Being that my user is in the wheel group I can use my secondary user account
>>> via:
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>> Ugh. I just push the {up} key in the keyboard :-p
>
> I’m thinking this {up} key is a gnome thing?
No, a thunderbird thing
Three panels: one with the list of groups, one highlighted. The list of
posts of that selected group is on the second panel. One of those posts
is highlighted, and its contents are displayed on the third panel.
If the second panel (list of posts) is selected I can just tap the
cursor up or down keys of the keyboard, and I can display the previous
or the next post, even if I read it a week or a year ago, they are not
deleted unless I want.
Just as in email.
In alpine you can also display previous or next post in a folder, but
you can not display both panels simultaneously.
>> Although I had that running in Alpine, now it doesn’t work, and I don’t
>> remember if I deactivated it. I can not get any groups.
I just sent a post using Alpine on this laptop; here it works.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4, with Evergreen, x86_64 “Celadon” (Minas Tirith))
On 2013-07-22 18:55, JtWdyP wrote:
> It would appear that on Jul 14, Carlos E. R. did say:
>
I’m now at the situation leafnode is best: a temporary internet
connection. I connect (via cellular radio), download/upload nntp posts
and email, and disconnect.
Then read, write, and when ready connect again for the next batch.
(ugh… I almost burnt my pizza - unfamiliar oven)
>> On 2013-07-14 18:02, JtWdyP wrote:
>>> I did look at a wiki on leafnode, it implied that I’d need to bother with
>>> setting up a fully qualified domain name.
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>> Why? I don’t have one. If you say that “telcontar.valinor” is a fully
>> qualified name, then so it is.
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> I think that may depend on which version your using… AND/OR where/how you
> got it…
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> Since I intended to use this on multiple linux, I didn’t think it mattered
> which linux I tried it on first… I was running Mageia when I read this so
> I checked their repo for leafnode… It took me a bit to get it configured
> well enough for fetchnews to actually try to run. The error text made me think
> that I only needed to get something unique enough, so I played with Mageia’s
> systemd hostname utility:
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Ah, I understand. The name of the machine must be unique (there is some
RFC about that) because it used to create the ‘message-id’ for the posts
you send. It is the same with email, but the MUA (the client software)
has learned to be inventive and they create those identifiers somehow
unique (in the sense that no other post in the entire internet should
have the same ID ever). Which is why “localhost.localdomain” is not valid.
And fully qualified just means that it must have a dot somewhere
> For opensuse, I resorted to using the:
>
> Search
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> for leafnode on opensuse 12.2
> I think there were two versions available for “one click install”. I selected
> the older one…
Do you remember the numbers? I have 1.11.8, yours should not be very
different (development is very slow). There is a branch of leafnode that
might use numbers ‘2’, but it is not the same developer group.
Maybe version 2 is more picky :-? I have not tried it.
> Finally I had a leafnode the didn’t throw an FQDN error when I tried to run
> fetchnews… But after the first run, I needed to access the groups with a
> news client to make them “interesting” enough for fetchnews to retrieve
> anything. With Alpine, I needed to “subscribe” to a group for that. But when I
> tried to list available groups in the add group dialog, alpine couldn’t find a
> list of them…
That’s what happened to me the other day. I had it working about a year
ago, but now I can’t.
> I really dislike slrn’s interface, but it would let me use vim to compose…
> But slrn couldn’t find any groups to open either…
Then there is some other problem.
You can check if the structure “/var/spool/news” is populated. The list
of availabe groups is “/var/spool/news/leaf.node/groupinfo”, whereas
“nntp.opensuse.org” would be the groups with posts, the active ones.
There is also a set of log files at “/var/log/news/”. I usually have a
terminal open with “tailf /var/log/news/news.debug” to see what is going
on. Do that before running “fetchnews -v” and you can find what is going on.
> Since then I needed to house/dog sit at my sisters for a few days. And her
> broadband is from a different isp than mine. And at her house my laptop has no
> trouble opening nntp.opensuse.org with directly with alpine. So It seams that
> my access problem might be mostly an ISP thing…
Could be.
> At this point, I’m not thinking I can get leafnode working on enough distros
> without paying somebody for an FQDN… Giving up {for now} have other fish to
> fry…
New software, new difficulties.
> But thanks for the help… At least I learned something. ;-7
Welcome
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4, with Evergreen, x86_64 “Celadon” (Minas Tirith))
>>> >> Although I had that running in Alpine, now it doesn’t work, and I don’t
>>> >> remember if I deactivated it. I can not get any groups.
> I just sent a post using Alpine on this laptop; here it works.
No, it was not actually sent, it failed to get out.
