Indeed. And, someone else here made a similar point somewhere earlier in this thread.
Bottom line: The Devs are the ones who should make these kinds of decisions.
Why?
Because if we force something on them they do not want, simply to please some onlookers, they might end up leaving.
Without Devs, we are nothing.
They seem to be suggesting that a major version number will be for 3-4 years. So we are talking around 75-100 years to get to version 40.
Maybe, 150 will be the new 75. rotfl!
openSUSE 2000™
On an another note, will 15 be something more than 42.3, or just a regular update? I’m asking if that will be a good time to reinstall oS from nothing, instead just upgrading. Also, will be there a version for Raspberry Pi 3 too?
“More” is hard to answer.
There will be a 42.3. This will be based on SLE 12 (as were 42.1 and 42.2). SLE is the enterprise version.
Version 15 of opensuse will be based on SLE 15, the next new SLE version. Or, at least, that’s my understanding.
openSUSE Unlimited
But the question is, does it give some underlying changes, or it’s just like a service pack, like 12.3->13.1? Before 42.1, numbers had no meaning, they were just increasing randomly.
42.1 –> 42.2 was like a service pack. That change was due to a service pack for SLE 12.
Presumably, SLE 15 is not just a service pack, so opensuse 15 won’t be just a service pack. But I have no inside information, other than what I could read at the opensuse-project mailing list.
I’m willing to wait and see.
On Tue, 02 May 2017 19:26:01 +0000, Kry wrote:
> or it’s just like a service pack, like 12.3->13.1?
12.3->13.1 wasn’t like a service pack. It was a change in the major
version. 
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I actually think aligning the SLE and openSUSE Leap versions is very good idea. Although I thought the `openSUSE Leap
42.x’ idea was whimsical and amusing with its HGTG reference, the amusement was short-lasting and I’m sure the reference
was lost of many people, and consequently I disliked the idea. Now SLE is jumping a version, perhaps it’s SLE’s turn to
be called Leap. Which brings me onto Henk’s comment:
On 2017-04-22, hcvv hcvv@no-mx.forums.microfocus.com wrote:
One think is for sure, when SLE and openSUSE have the same version
numbers, the number of threads started in the wrong forum will increase.
I 100% agree. The fact that SUSE' is in the title of both and their version numbers will align is a recipe for disaster in these forums especially since posters often call both SUSE’. If the plan is for numerical version matching, then
`SUSE’ should be dropped from the openSUSE in my opinion; perhaps openLEAP (alongside openWeed or openTweed!) would be a
suitable alternative. But as you can see, there’s a reason why I’m not employed by a PR agency!
Its really something Know i now that openSUSE and version numbers its pure science.
Why can’t we vote over a new version number,
i like 58 as a number and also 30 and 07.
On 2017-05-04, Benmh <Benmh@no-mx.forums.microfocus.com> wrote:
> Its really something Know i now that openSUSE and version numbers its pure science.
Since both SLEX and openSUSE Leap versions are being aligned with both undergoing arbitrary version jumps (forwards or
backwards) and both will have annual releases, personally I think this is the ideal time to assign both with version
17.x since this also aligns with the last two digits of the release year (2017). At least this provides a logical morsel
of justification behind the change…
Shouldn’t that be 007? :?
007 is also o.k, but i like 07 
Hi!
Rarely that it is on mailing list mirror in the forum. :P. Still SUSE and developers…
(not openSUSE).
I still agree with the chairman. Decisions… Personal opinions.
regards
This even got LWN attention and ended up in one of the most entertaining articles I’ve ever read:
https://lwn.net/Articles/720924/
Indeed, good reading. Thanks.
I must say, I feel like some people are making a mountain out of a mole hill. So long as openSUSE continues as a positive product with a positive community the future is bright. I have had such an incredibly positive experience with Leap as a distro on everything I have installed it on.
I remember back in the day when Mandriva Linux went from 10.2 to 2005 LE. I didn’t care with them and I don’t care what openSUSE or SLE call their numbers. Heck, they can just do prime numbers for each version and I wouldn’t care so long as the system works.
The only opinion that I do have is I am glad openSUSE doesn’t do the LTS thing that some others may do. I like how Leap is based on the SLE so it is like every edition of Leap is a LTS and if I want something more “up to date” I can just use Tumbleweed. Such a nice and simple arrangemet. For most people and machines I don’t want to fiddle with, I put Leap. For my main daily driver, I use Tumbleweed. The arrangement works great for me.
Thank you to everyone that makes openSUSE possible!
Making an earthquake out of a mole hill keeps open source projects alive at times. Mandriva is now mostly history because everybody forgot about it. Mandrake was my first linux environment because it was very simple handling more than a decade ago. Yet, when it merged as Mandriva, everybody forgot about it because the world took it as is, without any real breakthroughs. Redhat and Debian distributions went on and succeed in a way that Mandriva never did. OpenSUSE in a way brought me on board as a daily user because the Leap numbering was irrational, imho. It was a marketing tactic that caught my attention many months ago. Even though Leap is still GNOME and KDE4 in a way, opensuse caught my attention once again around the same time when Ian Murdock the founder of Debian went and did an ultimate news incident on Twitter back then when he committed suicide. His death was very disturbing in a way, again, indirectly it became the de facto marketing strategy of Debian in the months coming. Today if you check in the Debian website, their news announcements since version 8.x are less about software patches, but either about some Debian chap getting arrested in Russia over crime or another Debian chap dying and they simply felt that it was necessary putting an obituary on the front page of Debian. In a way, it worked, abet slightly morbid, because it kept me interested in such projects.
On 2017-04-22, Miuku <Miuku@no-mx.forums.microfocus.com> wrote:
>> On behalf of the openSUSE Board and Leap Release Management I am
>> pleased to announce the next version of openSUSE Leap after 42.3 will
>> be: <SNIP> openSUSE Leap 15
> Read more:
> https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-announce/2017-04/msg00000.html
>
> My head hurts in a bad way.
Mine now hurst too! Reading the openSUSE roadmap at openSUSE:Roadmap - openSUSE Wiki it says
Leap 42.3 is using a rolling development model without fixed mile stones. New snapshots are published according to
automated testing results.
April: integration of SLE sources
May 21st: submission deadline for major version updates. Begin of polishing and testing phase
June 6th: SLE goes RC, base system freeze
June 25th: package freeze. Only bug fixes from here on.
Last week of July: release
So this suggests…
Leap' is now the new name for openSUSE Leap’.… or is the Roadmap page just obsolete/incorrect?
No. “Leap” is just an abbreviation for “openSUSE Leap”.
- The next version will be 42.3 after all.
That was never in question. The discussion about “version 15” is for versions after 42.x. The 42.x series are derived from SLE 12. The version 15 will be based on a later version of SLE (probably SLE 15).
- Leap 42.3 will use a rolling development model.
Development is always rolling. Previously, there were releases of a few milestone versions. But there were always other version that were not announced. The difference now, is that any version which passes openQA testing will be available for those who want to look at it. Just check the download site, or run updates on your currently installed 42.3 test system. Or monitor the factory mailing list (which can be seen online). Once the final version of 42.3 is released, that “rolling” will stop and we will have a stable system with periodic updates to fix bugs.
- Leap development and testing is just another name for SLE development and testing.
No, not at all.
Leap development and testing uses the current SLE release or development version as a base for Leap. Presumably the SLE development people see bug reports from Leap. But, apart from those connections, SLE development and Leap development are separate.
I should add that I’m just an ordinary openSUSE user. I do not have any special inside information. But my interpretation of the various nuggets of information is different from yours.