Newest 4.2.96 update and Vuze

the update available this morning seems to have caused a situation that causes Vuze to refuse to start. At this moment, i’m clueless as to a remedy, anyone else have the same problem or perhaps offer a suggestion?

what happens when you open it ?

In my case it tries to open it, icon changes but then my desktop KDE crashes.

Cheers

wow, you still using the pig that is Vuze? Try some of the much lighter clients like ktorrent, transmission, deluge, etc

as for the problem, do you get anything when executing vuze through the console? Post the errors

there is no error msgs when starting from a terminal, just startup calls, then it mysteriously ends. From desktop it does the same without complaint, but my desktop does not crash, Vuze just disappears. Yesterday’s version of 4.3rc2 functioned fine, I’m suspicious of the additional dependencies I noticed that were pulled in with the current edition.

as to client, to each his own. Vuze does more of what i want.

Maybe it is related to the Java update not too long ago? No idea really, without meaningful messages/errors, it’s hard to know what’s going on…

No problem with vuze here.

How about going to the history file in /var/log/zypp

Show us the list of updates from the recent part of the log, it will be at the very bottom.

it appears that for some reason java-1_5_0-gcj-compat-devel was part of the install along with a LOT of other dependancies ie gcc-java.

Haven’t found a package that actually requires it among the Factory KDE components… and when you choose not to install it, along with it’s dependancies, yast2 doesn’t give a warning of anykind…

still haven’t a clue.

Have: java-1_5_0-gcj-compat
But NOT:java-1_5_0-gcj-compat-deve

Use Sun Java 6 otherwise

I don’t think it’s quite unstable - BUT the sound doesn’t work at all.
Would you PLEASE tell me which software erpos are supposed to be there (as some errors occur)?

Thanks.

there seems to be a lot of devel packages that are being auto-installed with the latest release… i can’t see why they are necessary, eliminating them doesn’t seem to cause any dependancy problems.

snafu, perhaps?

this bothered me enough that i re-enacted the update from 4.2.4 to 4.3 RC2 and it still puzzles me.

these are packages that are pushed as “auto-install” during the update:

gcc43-gij
gcc43-java
gcc-gij
gcc-java
gjdoc
glib2-devel
glitz-devel
gtk2-devel
java-1_5_0-gcj-compat
java-1_5_0-gcj-compat-devel
libart_lgpl-devel
libgcj43
libgcj43-devel
libgcj43-jar
libgcj_bc43
libgcj-devel
libpng-devel
pango-devel

QUITE a list of things… that i never had before. If i deselect the java-1_5_0-gcj-compat-devel package, yast2 decides i don’t need any of it, but if you check the Additional packages… mysteriously it has added java-1_5_0-sun-devel(but thats all-only one 11MB package).

my question would be why all these are needed? i could not find any kde package that required them. it strikes me as odd a basic KDE install would require developers packages.

for what it’s worth, Vuze functions with the java-1_5_0-sun-devel, but would not with the original recommended auto-installs. Hopefully no other complications will present.

observation: it appears the google-gadgets packages were not tied dependancy-wise to kdebase4 as they were in the beginning of 4.2 days, kudos to factory.

You said it: “mysteriously”

It can just take one rogue app and after that you can no end of it. I’m always careful to check what is being dragged in, especially when installing some apps from Packman. If I don’t like like the look of it, I back out and give some thought to the matter. It looks like you are equally cautious. It largely development stuff you are getting.
Filter to view all your installed development packages and if you don’t need any of them - delete them. I fairly certain I don’t have any, at least not on my laptop. Box is different kettle of fish.

j xavier adjusted his/her AFDB on Tuesday 14 Jul 2009 08:06 to write:

> QUITE a list of things… that i never had before. If i deselect the
> java-1_5_0-gcj-compat-devel package, yast2 decides i don’t need any of
> it, but if you check the Additional packages… mysteriously it has
> added java-1_5_0-sun-devel(but thats all-only one 11MB package).
>
> my question would be why all these are needed? i could not find any kde
> package that required them. it strikes me as odd a basic KDE install
> would require developers packages.
>
>

Quick answer:

The compat-devel package needs a newer gcc/java compiler version so it pulls
in all related apps

Simples!


Mark
Caveat emptor
Nullus in verba
Nil illegitimi carborundum

:slight_smile:

the point was that i didn’t have any java development packages before the update to the second release of 4.3 RC2. So, either a standard package needed it, or there is a mistake in the “recommended” packages that are being pushed from Factory.

hopefully someone in the know will read this thread and correct/validate it’s inclusion in the next build.