Thanks, yeah I booted the installer in EFI mode . . . and used the existing EFI boot partition . . . that’s why I didn’t understand the “flag error” that kept showing up. I was more or less just making a report on the installer . . . which is a different installer than the debian installer or the buntu one. Otherwise things seem to go well and seems like things are working.
Yes, I’m getting that openSUSE is not Ubuntu . . . I’m attempting to embrace the differences . . . . So, your suggestion about Yast software management would be where I can “adjust” the kinds of packages that the “zypper” patch or update commands would bring in? Or, there is another zypper command to do that?
No worries on the Mac side; it’s kind of a “niche” in the linux world . . . for “the few of the few” . . . .
One of the humorous lesson I learned from watching other workmen in the construction biz (thankfully I am out of that) was the motto, "Install first; then read instructions . . . " So I try to carry that over to linux . . . install first, then read what I should have done . . . .
Yes but better (at least openSUSE people think so)…One stop shop for most system settings and software maintenance. Zypper is great but it is complicated there are tones of options. read man zypper. Don’t expect to be exactly like apt-get
openSUSE uses vendor stickiness to keep updates only coming from the last repo a package was installed from. This prevents mixing versions. zypper dup ignores vendor stickiness and install highest version that it sees regardless. zypper patch only applies patches from the update repo only.
Since openSUSE is 100% open source you must get proprietary codecs from packman. Read the stickies at top of the multimedia section here.
So I spent a few hours today using Gecko MATE, which compares well with LM . . . still trying to figure out what is recommended way to do update/upgrades in a way that would potentially pull in kernel updates, i.e., similar to “apt dist-upgrade” . . . . I’ve launched YAST a few times, but I’m still trying to figure out how to adjust gogalthorp’s “install recommended packages by default” . . . suggestion.
This AM I fired YAST and it did it’s “search the repos” cig bar activity . . . seemed to come up with nothing–I clicked “accept” to see if anything would happen–nope. I had the Dependencies tab for “install recommended packages” checked . . . which didn’t seem to snag anything.
Then I ran the “zypper update” and a bunch of packages showed up as “ready” . . . but a few were “held back” . . . although it looked like the “held backs” were also listed with the same file name in the new update list??
Anyway, I ran the zypper . . . haven’t restarted yet . . . and the listed packages were installed. Only other choice I see in YAST would be to check “update if newer version available” tab in “All packages” menu??? So that would checking several options to get YAST to find and install new package updates?? I read thru the “unofficial SUSE page” on YAST, didn’t watch the video, so it didn’t seem to go over too many features in YAST, other than using it like synaptic package manager, to search for a package, one that you know the name of, that you might want and then install it with the GUI.
If I wanted to update/upgrade the general new packages and any potential kernels . . . would I be doing “zypper dup update”?? Or, what would bring the “stable” recommends?? I’m trying to ask first before doing something that might mess up the install.
zypper up or yast -software management will do updates but if you want cutting edge then you want a Tumbleweed based Gecko or openSUSE. This is the rolling version and you do zypper dup to do updates
man zypper for full instruction
You can get more advanced kernels by adding the kernel repo.
Yast -software management there is an option to set install of recommended off and on
OK, got that now . . . I’m doing the “stable” version of Gecko, whichever that one is . . . .
man zypper for full instruction
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man zypper
bash: man: command not found
I also ran that in YAST search with same response, i.e., “no results” . . . . I have never found the “man” pages to be very helpful in any linux distro I have run . . . kind of like a list of “facts” w/o any practical explanation of how to use the “facts.”
You can get more advanced kernels by adding the kernel repo.
Yast -software management there is an option to set install of recommended off and on
Alrighty; this is where I could use a little more detail, having been through YAST drop down menus a couple few times now . . . is this where the “online update” feature is what you are referring to? I’ve installed the online updater and clicked on it and there are some list of repositories, but, no mention of anything about kernels . . . ??? I’m also not seeing this “turn off or on recommended updates”?? Beyond what I’ve already done, and which didn’t seem to pick anything up this morning, etc.
Not holding my breath, but, any time you have a few minutes to add some details . . . again, Gecko MATE . . . “stable” . . . .
Remember Gecko is a tripped down openSUSE some thing are just installed by default. I am surprised man is not/ Presumably man pages were not to save space on the install media/ on the other hand it is supposed to include a number of proprietary libraries and codecs. Remember the openSUSE is open source only and does not include proprietary drivers and codecs.
Install man and man-pages to get manual functionality
Show us zypper lr -d to see what repos are set as default
So it seems like what you are saying is that the kernel in Gecko isn’t changing very often?? Over in LTS 'buntu it seems like the kernel is being upgraded every couple weeks . . . but in LEAP the kernel is kind of set??
Gecko is openSUSE 42.2 just packaged a little differently. The stable branch of opensSUSE does not change much Tumbleweed is the rolling version and changes weekly. In 42.2 you will have ported kernel patches to address various issues sometimes but not that often. If you want to experiment with higher version kernels you can add the kernel repo. In TW you are near or at the most advanced kernel along with other parts of the OS, but you are running want amounts to advanced beta software. It all depends on your need and expectations which is better for you. Linux is about choice so it is up to you what you need or want. Just remember that you must expect to bleed when you ride the cutting edge.
Right, I usually don’t have time for bleeding edge . . . . So, this is a tad different in that even in LTS there are kernel mods in 'buntu . . . OR, right, you could find newer kernels that might be “Sid” and use them, in some cases for some functions, moving up the kernel has been “necessary” . . . . It’s not that I “need” the newest kernels . . . just was used to having them showing up every few weeks or sometimes sooner . . . sort of the “fun” of linux is fresh newness to be installed . . . in the system.
