Hello!
Im sorry if there is another thread like mine, but i have some questions regarding a connection to the internet. My ISP has implemented a login/access software wich we can connect to the internet. This application requires a username, password and a CNP( numerical personal code, something on our id cards). This program has to run at every start, and it installs itself. I know that i cannot run it in linux ( not talking about installing:) ) My friend tried what Ive said and gave him some errors in wine ( required some gecko files). For a software iss piece of crap. I have a router ( Siemens Gigaset SE361 Wlan) and two computers. A pc running windows xp sp3, connected by cable, for my family, and Asus X58L notebook connected by wifi. Both receive dynamic IPs from the router.
One of my quoestions is: Can I access the internet in linux by wifi, if my pc is running, without that application?
How can I do that?
Any advice is welcome. ( I cannot change my ISP, my contract is for one year and i don’t have the necessary money to give up that contract).
Thank you very much and I`m sorry if I have wasted your time with this thread!
Have a nice day!
Now I`m runnig Windows 7 as main OS because I have no internet in linux.
This has be a load of old codswallop. Even if it were actually true as you describe. I would say you can leave your ISP because they just changed the terms of the contract and made your computer useless because You don’t use windows!
a lot of providers here give you some software doing similar things, but in fact they just configure network settings for you. If you google for your provider’s name and “Linux”, maybe you’ll find some useful hints.
What buckesfeld said. The software that comes from the ISP is typically just an easy-config utility that pokes the required values into the Modem. Unless your ISP is doing something unusual, you should be able to get the needed info to set up networking yourself. Do a Google search like
+linux +'name of my ISP'
… and see what you get.
It sounds like the ISP’s software may be doing some access control stuff – it’s doing the DHCP for you – id’ing itself to the router, then fetching an IP address. But you should be able to get around that.
I also agree, by the way, that you need to complain to them about receiving Windows-only software. They need to know that you can’t use it.
I don’t like it when ISPs do this, either, and I agree that we should complain. (I do.) But if costy001’s contract is like most of them, it guarantees almost nothing and probably contains a specific provision that they will only support Windows. Earthlink was like that when I was with them a few years back. They flatly said, “we only support Windows, thanks for calling, goodbye.”
Just guessing that to establish the connection requires the logon but after the connection is made shouldn’t any computer connected to the router be able to access the 'net? Also though I only vaguely recall Windows stuff, a ifconfig could be used to see what the details were. Might look through your Internet settings under MS and see what the connection setup is. It may be that you just need to plug the details into the network device module in YaST.
The main settings gave by ISP were put into the router settings, and the laptop and pc who connect still need to use that software.( when I open my pc/laptop is says “router identified-connected”). I could give you guys some screenshots to make an idea.
I know that legally I cannot bypass this to have an internet connection in openSUSE ( I don’t have the necessary programming knowledge to read that software, or to add some lines, I guess you got it.
Thank you all for your time viewing and answering to this problem.
Have a nice day/night!
Although any discussion on this matter is welcomed!
My ISP is a local one from Romania . SC iNET Expert SRL ( www.inetexpert.ro )
I have seen something like this on a persons PC here in UK. But it’s normally on those cr*ppy USB modems they dump on folk. You could be on the mark there though Malcolm.
In windows my wifi works perfectly and even by cable. But in linux, none works. On direct connection, when i plug in the utp cable in my ethernet adapter with the correct settings i could not connect because of that program,needs to run.
I have a router, my connection it is not bridged.
As I said earlier the pc is connected by cable to the router and the laptop by wifi. In windows both work fine, but in linux, both find the network, both receive IP`s from the router, In both I can ping their servers and receive a 1ms response, but the internet…well it does not work. only on their address where I can download that application.
The router is a Siemens Gigaset SE 361Wlan, and the configuration was made by a good friend of mine who used to work for that firm ( my ISP), and later after warranty problem were made by me, exactly the same as he made them.
By the way, the program wich I was referring to is this one here
On 10/14/2009 10:36 AM, costy001 wrote:
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> In windows my wifi works perfectly and even by cable. But in linux, none
> works. On direct connection, when i plug in the utp cable in my ethernet
> adapter with the correct settings i could not connect because of that
> program,needs to run.
> I have a router, my connection it is not bridged.
> As I said earlier the pc is connected by cable to the router and the
> laptop by wifi. In windows both work fine, but in linux, both find the
> network, both receive IP`s from the router, In both I can ping their
> servers and receive a 1ms response, but the internet…well it does not
> work. only on their address where I can download that application.
>
>
Have you tried hooking the laptop up directly to the router to see if
you can get out on the net? Good idea to do so even before trying to
use wifi, IMHO.
…also what does cat /etc/resolv.conf show?
Find out what the DNS (nameserver) is on your windows setup for
comparison…they should be the same.
My dns are exactly the same on windows and linux. @caf4926: I have my MTU:1500, dns servers are the ones which were given by the ISP, but I don’t see ot don’t know where to look for “encapsulation, authentication…VCI, VPI”
All the settings are exactly the same. But I can’t seem to connect without that program.
Sorry guys for wasting your time, seems like the only way is to get rid of that ISP, but I cannot do that for the moment, or to get that kind of mobile USB modem from Vodafone, Orange etc.
Thanks again for your answers!
Heres one idea that I had. I cannot run that piece of soft in Wine, but if I install Virtual Box, and put MS windows Xp as guest OS, then run that application, it could be possible to connect to the net. To clear some things out. Even in Linux, i can ping their server, get dynamic IPs from my router, everything works perfectly but I cannot open messenger, google.com in my browser, only this address http://access.exs.ro to download that app.
Ill try to talk to some guy at the tech support to see if there is something he can do from there, open some ports for me, or give me some kind of access, but if not Ill try what I`ve said earlier.
Thanks everyone!
