New user/install - poor video: DVD, online news, Youtube,etc

New to Linux (navigation has been interesting). Did fresh install of 12.1, followed default recommendations throughout.
After a lot of experimentation with updates/downloads (again, not sure what I’m doing as navigating in opensuse is new for me), I finally got a DVD to play, was very choppy and no sound. Also, on-line news (msnbc, al jazeera, etc.) was discolored, choppy, shifted/compressed to the left side of the window, and no sound… as was youtube.
Installed on following system: Chaintech 6BTM-M101 AGP mobo (i440BX chipset, AGP, PCI 2.0, 16-bit ISA), PIII 450 (Katami - SL35D), 1GB RAM (4 x lo-density 256MB -7.5), STB Riva 128zx 8MB AGP video, Sound Blaster Vibra16 ISA (CT4170), Sony DVD ROM, Toshiba DVD MultiWriter, 2 x WD800BB 80GB HDD.
HDDs were “clean” (i.e. LLF/zero-write - with WD DOS utility) and unformatted.
Hardware is good, I had previously installed XP Pro (SP2) and, with the exception of downloading/installing K-Lite codec pack, everything worked “out of the box”. Puppy Wary 522 and Lucid 528 also worked, clumsily but… :wink:
Not sure if it’s important but, “KDE” (not sure what that is), Kaffeine and Firefox are the current applications.
Have been through my entire Stones, Zep, Floyd and SRV collection while wrestling with this :wink:
p.s. I have no problem wiping the HDDs and doing a complete re-install, should I have completely botched the driver/package (?) install/setup.
p.p.s found a .run, “dot run” file at NVIDIA that I couldn’t figure out how to install… package manager usually took care of .pet, .gz (?) files.
Teh machine will be used primarily as a “mule”; downloading, burning (i.e. .iso linux distros for testing), checking e-mail/news - when the other machine is working and getting comfortable with Linux before install it on a much more powerful notebook (to replace Vista Biz… a disaster)

oops, popped an audio CD, JFF: played immediately (would be nice to have something besides “KMix”, that includes a graphic EQ :wink:
Kaffeine worked, KsCD(?) crashed

just went to Radio Paradise - eclectic commercial free Internet radio - Audacios, amaroK or VLC? (remember, basic player, old machine :wink:
Ogg Vorbis??

On 01/21/2012 08:06 PM, celticbrooder wrote:
>
> New to Linux (navigation has been interesting). Did fresh install of
> 12.1, followed default recommendations throughout.
> After a lot of experimentation with updates/downloads (again, not sure
> what I’m doing as navigating in opensuse is new for me), I finally got a
> DVD to play, was very choppy and no sound. Also, on-line news (msnbc, al
> jazeera, etc.) was discolored, choppy, shifted/compressed to the left
> side of the window, and no sound… as was youtube.

sounds just like a video problem…you can start here:
http://tinyurl.com/37v9y7m but you may need to lay your hands on a video
card made this century…

> Installed on following system: Chaintech 6BTM-M101 AGP mobo (i440BX
> chipset, AGP, PCI 2.0, 16-bit ISA), PIII 450 (Katami - SL35D),

choppy sound probably due to lack of CPU cycles available to both
process video and sound…

you can try running openSUSE but i think you will have better luck with
a smaller, lighter, less resource needy Linux made for underpowered
systems from yesteryear…

for sure, LXDE is less demanding than is KDE or Gnome, and XFCE even
more so…

1GB RAM
> (4 x lo-density 256MB -7.5), STB Riva 128zx 8MB AGP video, Sound Blaster
> Vibra16 ISA (CT4170),

lack of sound: probably due to sound card ‘engineered’ for Win 98

> Sony DVD ROM, Toshiba DVD MultiWriter, 2 x WD800BB
> 80GB HDD.
> HDDs were “clean” (i.e. LLF/zero-write - with WD DOS utility) and
> unformatted.
> Hardware is good, I had previously installed XP Pro (SP2) and, with the
> exception of downloading/installing K-Lite codec pack, everything worked
> “out of the box”. Puppy Wary 522 and Lucid 528 also worked, clumsily
> but… :wink:

but what? if Puppy can use the machine i doubt openSUSE can…

when you say everything worked “out of the box” why didn’t you stay
there? note: Use what works!

> Not sure if it’s important but, “KDE” (not sure what that is),

KDE is a desktop environment (DE), which runs in Linux to build a
graphical user interface (GUI) to make the ‘windows’ you see…i’ve
already mentioned three other DEs which need less resources…

> Kaffeine
> and Firefox are the current applications.
> Have been through my entire Stones, Zep, Floyd and SRV collection while
> wrestling with this :wink:

turn up the SRV…and any other Texas HonkyTonk Blues you have…

> p.s. I have no problem wiping the HDDs and doing a complete re-install,
> should I have completely botched the driver/package (?) install/setup.

unfortunately i imagine no matter how many time you try to get openSUSE
12.1 and KDE 4.7 to run smooth on that machine you are gonna have the
same problem over and over and over and . . .

> p.p.s found a .run, “dot run” file at NVIDIA that I couldn’t figure out
> how to install… package manager usually took care of .pet, .gz (?)
> files.

you can try for a better video driver (follow the link given far above)
but that card is so old i don’t have a lot of hope that a different
driver is gonna make the road smooth out in front of you…

> Teh machine will be used primarily as a “mule”; downloading, burning
> (i.e. .iso linux distros for testing), checking e-mail/news

you sure do not need an operating system more powerful than Win7
Professional Ultimate SuperDuper SuperCharged TipTop NoneBetter to run
downloads and checking emails…

  • when the
    > other machine is working and getting comfortable with Linux before
    > install it on a much more powerful notebook (to replace Vista Biz… a
    > disaster)

it is a good plan to become familiar with Linux before switching out
from old standards…well, i tried it exactly (close) the way you
did…i got a CD with Red Hat something on it (in about '98) and sweated
nails trying to load it on my 1992 486/66 with 16 MB of RAM…

finally (after being told a half dozen times) i bought a second hand
machine with enough power to actually run what i was trying to run, and
things got a WHOLE lot easier…your choice:

  1. install a lighter Linux
  2. buy stronger hardware to run openSUSE 12.1 with KDE on
  3. continue to be disappointed

well, here: install Win7 on that machine and tell us how it runs!


DD http://tinyurl.com/DD-Caveat
openSUSE®, the “German Engineered Automobiles” of operating systems!

Kudos! and thanks;
I have to admit, was a little surprised that XP worked fine but openSUSE didn’t (I understand that openSUSE is competitive with Win7, and that 7 runs alot “lighter” then Vista - which isn’t hard to do… :wink:
My copy of XP is already running on another machine, so… (microsoft kinda frowns on that… no updates or networking… thanks microsoft); besides, part of the purpose is to “wean” off of windows… primarily driven by recent experience with Vista on my notebook (and, of course, no possibility to ‘regress" to XP as there are no XP drivers for the notebook)… they made a major mistake with this customer by releasing something and making me pay, both cash and time, for their “experiment”. At this point, I don’t care if 7 is the neatest thing since sliced bread… moving to Linux… and yes, when it works, I’ll be sending a check.
I’'l give openSUSE one more shot on this machine; will try LDXE/XFCE (I think one of these was an option during install).
Also, AGPs are flying around here like toilet paper; will be going to the flea market tomorrow… any recommendations on something that may lighten the load for my old mule? What about a player and 'net browser?
Again, kudos and thanks
p.s. Audacious, amaroK or VLC? (“light” and easy)

@DD
well, XFCE was an improvement (preferred the simplicity of the desktop too); very quick boot and shutdown also.
Wary runs on-line video at acceptable levels; will trim out some of the un-needed services, may help some…
Will take a shot at the DVD issue tomorrow.
Looks like Wary will be my working intro to Linux.
Thanks for the assists.

On 01/21/2012 09:46 PM, celticbrooder wrote:
>
> [on video] will be going to
> the flea market tomorrow… any recommendations on something that may
> lighten the load for my old mule?

i had real good luck with mid-last decade nVidia GdForce FX 5500 as an
example. i think most here would agree that overall, nVidia has the best
support for Linux (providing pretty good closed source Linux drivers),
next would be (probably) ATI and last Intel (though both ATI and Intel
have some graphics that are GREAT…and some that are worthless on Linux)

in my opinion, for a daily driver just a basic nVidia…do NOT pay a lot
of money for the one with the chrome, blinking lights, and . . .

all that said: the on board Intel chips on this netbook are just
wonderful with the Intel driver…

> What about a player and 'net browser?
> Again, kudos and thanks
> p.s. Audacious, amaroK or VLC? (“light” and easy)

vlc rules…(opinions vary)

Firefox is by far the most resource hungry browser while Opera, Chrome
and Chromium are about the same and all three of those are ‘faster’ than
firefox

firefox is not so bad if you don’t go crazy with addons…i have all of
the above and almost always use firefox

i use thunderbird for mail…its a bit piggy, but afaik better than
Outhouse by a mile or three…and does all i need, efficiently.


DD http://tinyurl.com/DD-Caveat http://tinyurl.com/DD-Hardware
http://tinyurl.com/DD-Software
openSUSE®, the “German Engineered Automobiles” of operating systems!

@celticbrooder,

Hi, If you are using VLC, to have sound in any medias you need to install Pulse Audio support as well as all the required G-streamer libs, that are included in the restricted extra’s pack this will help you play dvd’s and protected media’s such as dvd’s and blurays!

also don’t forget to install the pavucontrol program to make sure the proper audio source(your sound card) is selected to stream pulse

Hope this helps you!

Have a blessed day!