I finally got around to buying a new SeaGate Free Agent Extreme 1.5 TB external hard drive to back up my system and pull together data that is on several smaller hard drives.
I pulled it out of the box and plugged it in and I cannot seam to get it to work. I have tried to open open /dev/sbd1 in terminal and it tells me “permission denied” when I am logged in as su.
Then I tried to mount /dev/sdb1 and it came back with mount: can’t find /dev/sdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
So messed around a little and I was able to open it with a Win XP VM and Knoppix on the same computer, but for some reason I cannot seam to find it or open it with Open Suse 11.0. The strange thing is that I am able to use all of my smaller hardrives without any issues.
External drives don’t require /etc/fstab entry to mount. Open a console, and do
lshal -m
then plug drive in and see what gets reported. See if device listed with
fdisk -l
Okay,I followed your directions and this is what I got
*brent@linux-vwj5:~> lshal -m
Start monitoring devicelist:
17:19:56.950: usb_device_bc2_3101_2GER4ZPV added
17:19:56.982: usb_device_bc2_3101_2GER4ZPV_if0 added
17:19:57.951: usb_device_bc2_3101_2GER4ZPV_if0_scsi_host added
17:19:57.994: usb_device_bc2_3101_2GER4ZPV_if0_scsi_host_scsi_device_lun0 added
17:19:58.039: storage_serial_Seagate_FreeAgent_XTreme_2GER4ZPV_0_0 added
17:19:58.184: usb_device_bc2_3101_2GER4ZPV_if0_scsi_host_scsi_device_lun0_scsi_generic added
fdisk -l
17:20:41.011: computer_power_supply_battery_BAT0 property battery.charge_level.design = 74754 (0x12402)
17:20:41.016: computer_power_supply_battery_BAT0 property battery.charge_level.last_full = 46646 (0xb636)
*
As you can see the drive did appear for the first command but all I got was that my battery was charged over and over again. Now what should I do?
Well the results show the device is being detected ok. You need to kill this process monitoring before you can type the ‘fisk -l’ command (with CTRL-Z). Thats why it was ignored. From the command prompt, type ‘fdisk -l’ again. Lets see if it gets mounted. BTW, you will need to be root user to do this; use ‘su’ command first.
Yeah you need to tell me the little things or I will blow right past them.
Here is what I was able to come up with.
*linux-vwj5:/home/brent # fdisk -l
Disk /dev/sda: 250.0 GB, 250059350016 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x00040baa
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sda1 1 262 2104483+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sda2 * 263 2873 20972857+ 83 Linux
/dev/sda3 2874 30401 221118660 83 Linux
Disk /dev/sdb: 1500.3 GB, 1500301910016 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 182401 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x04235cb8
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sdb1 1 182401 1465136001 7 HPFS/NTFS*
/dev/sdb is my new hard drive, what should I do next?
Are you saying it does not show up in your file manager yet (Are you kde or gnome?)
Check the directory tree and go to /media
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sdb1 1 182401 1465136001 7 HPFS/NTFS
Your external disk is mounted. Like caf4926 posted, you now should check /media to see what is mounted. This is where external media devices are mounted by default. You can navigate using dolphin (KDE4), konqueror (KDE3), or nautilus (Gnome) file managers. desktop
I think that I found it but just going to /dev/sdb1, but it still will not let me access the drive.
I]brent@linux-vwj5:~> /dev/sdb1
bash: /dev/sdb1: Permission denied
This happens even when I sign in as su.
When I go the media route nothing shows up in either the root folder or my user folder.
Is this a formating issue with the drive? I have been able to access it through Windows and Knoppix.
I would really like to get it so it mounts automatically like my other portable drives.
HowTo Mount NTFS Filesystem Partition Read Write Access in openSUSE 10, 11
this part
OpenSUSE pre version 11.1: When you plug a USB NTFS drive into openSUSE it automounts read-only by design of the openSUSE developers. If you want it mounted read-write, you can either unmount it and then remount it using one of the CLI commands I’ve outlined above or you can change the system default way of automounting NTFS drives so they will always automount read-write. To do that you essentially put a link into the directory /sbin that redirects the automount process to the ntfs-3g driver. The following command (as root) will create the permanent adjustment:
sudo ln -s /sbin/mount.ntfs-3g /sbin/mount.ntfs
I can see you have winXP what you have to do is turn on your USB EXT. HD and go to I believe in control.In my situation is it that in XP bottom corner there is a time in the panel and all other stuff like firewall in my panel show up Safety Remove USB Mass Storage device.
In my case I right click on it and I stop it.When it is finished I restart go to Suse it recognize it.
I hope it helps you.
Good luck my friend.
Mike
Thanks caf4926,
that will help me to .
Thanks
Cheers
Mike;)
oakie commented in his initial post that he had bought an external hard drive
to back up my system and pull together data that is on several smaller hard drives
it would seem it came already formatted in NTFS;
do forum members have views as to whether it stay formatted in NTFS or be re-formatted in … eg …ext3?
I kinda assumed with his mention of XP - NTFS would be preferred.
Ever since the driver ntfs-3g was introduced (and as long as MS-Windows remains in a monopolistic operating system position in the market place), I always keep my external hard drives formatted as NTFS.
Since at least openSUSE 11.0 all of those stunts with symlinking mount.ntfs or whatever are not necessary.
External media are mounted by hal, so with the right hal-policy, you can decide how NTFS-disks are mounted.
For older openSUSE releases use latest ntfs-3g package from here:
Index of /repositories/home:/anubisg1
or write your own hal-policy:
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> <!-- -*- SGML -*- -->
<!--
Allow read/write mounting of external NTFS devices with ntfs-3g.
/usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/10osvendor/
-->
<deviceinfo version="0.2">
<device>
<match key="volume.fstype" string="ntfs">
<match key="@block.storage_device:storage.hotpluggable" bool="true">
<merge key="volume.fstype" type="string">ntfs-3g</merge>
<merge key="volume.policy.mount_filesystem" type="string">ntfs-3g</merge>
<append key="volume.mount.valid_options" type="strlist">locale=</append>
</match>
</match>
</device>
</deviceinfo>
Save as root i.e. as
/usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/20thirdparty/10-mount-ntfs-3g.policy, restart hal as root (rchal restart) and that’s it.
In openSUSE 11.1 a respective policy is already inside the ntfs-3g package.
BTW:
I would split such a large USB-disk into more than one partition and format at least one of them with a linux file system, I would never put any sensitive data from linux on NTFS or any non native file system.
In my situation when I turn my ext.HD on and go to xp it recognize my USB and the panel it open a window it tells me Safety remove usb Mass Storage Device so winxp recognize my ext. HD.
The other think is when I restart my computer and going to Suse and try to open up it couldn`t.
Why I have to go back to winxp and a small window open up it tells me Safety remove usb Mass Storage Device ,what I do I right click with my mouse it tells me something I click on my usb HD I have choice cancel or stop I click on stop.
Then I restart my computer going to Suse,I see my Ext. HD open up it works perfect.
I do that all the time.
Mike
You right it came already formatted in NTFS; look what oldcpu saying
Ever since the driver ntfs-3g was introduced (and as long as MS-Windows remains in a monopolistic operating system position in the market place), I always keep my external hard drives formatted as NTFS.
and I never format to ext3.
Mike
Okay I think that I am kind of lost right now with what to do with my HD. As you can see from the previous posts my computer is seeing the drive but it is not letting me access it. I am at a descision point right now to try and exchange it for a different one or somehow reformat the entire drive to work on my Open Suse 11.0.
To make things better I am going out of town for a little bit and I might not be able to return the HD when I get back, so I may be forced to make it work through reformating.
To make things better I am going out of town for a little bit and I might not be able to return the HD when I get back, so I may be forced to make it work through reformating.
From the results you posted earlier, it looks like device was recognised and ntfs partition mounted. Did you have a look at /media directory to see what was mounted?
Okay I am back and trying to get this drive to work again. I started over from the beginning and this is what I was able to get.
linux-vwj5:~ # fdisk -l
Disk /dev/sda: 250.0 GB, 250059350016 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x00040baa
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sda1 1 262 2104483+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sda2 * 263 2873 20972857+ 83 Linux
/dev/sda3 2874 30401 221118660 83 Linux
linux-vwj5:~ # /dev/sda3
bash: /dev/sda3: Permission denied
sda3 is the new HD and I don’t know why it is saying “Permission denied”.