Hey, as the titled stated, I’m new to the SUSE world. My company however is soon to deploy some SUSE Enterprise servers, and I thought it would be a good idea to start using openSUSE to get my feet wet, so to speak. I am not new to Linux, been using Ubuntu-based distros personally for 4 years, mainly Linux Mint. So while I’m not a full-time Linux guru power user, I’m not completely inept and can follow instructions
That being said, a couple of quick and easy questions about openSUSE:
what kernel is the current stable release using, 13.1?
in Ubuntu, I use sudo apt-get for most updates/installs/etc, what’s the SUSE equivalent?
are Gnome and KDE the 2 main/only DE’s available for openSUSE?
I’m sure there will be many more questions as I continue down the SUSE trail, but I mainly wanted to introduce myself and get a few basics down. Thanks!
In short;
zypper ref (refresh repositories) - apt-get update
zypper in package (install package) - apt-get install
zypper rm package (install package) - apt-get remove
zypper se package (search for package) - apt-cache search
zypper up (update files from repos) - equivalent to apt-get upgrade
You can use wildcards or partial names to search for files, also capabilities.
There are lots of different desktop environments available as you would have on other distributions - pretty much everything you’d have on Debian/Ubuntu as well. You can install them from either by adding repositories or by installing them from patterns that are available from YAST Install Software or via zypper from the command line.
zypper se -t pattern will list all available patterns (you would not have them all right now as you have basic repositories only)
zypper in -t pattern patternname would install said pattern and all files in it. For example zypper in -t pattern gnome would install gnome (3)
You can also look at http://opensuse-guide.org/ for some information, it’s mainly aimed at new users - really new users. Those with Linux experience will catch on quickly.
You would be better off to start with SLES or SLED. openSUSE is sufficiently different. Just register and download ISO; you will also get 60 days access to updates to get a feeling how it works.
SLE11 is at kernel 3.0.101 currently, but it is pointless to compare version numbers - enterprise kernels have large amount of backports.
not sure what you want here there is the kernel that ships with the current release DVD but there are also stable kernels that you can use available.3.11 is what comes in 13.1
sudo works a little different then in Ubuntu. In Ubuntu you generally don’t have a root user so sudo is used in its place in openSUS there is a root user so you generally become root as su - then do the root stuff. sudo is available just not quite the same but you can adjust the properties if you just have to use it like in Ubuntu
zypper is the preferred program used to install things from the command line and there is Yast if you want graphical interface.
Just about any DE are available What you looking for??
On Mon 28 Jul 2014 03:36:01 PM CDT, arvidjaar wrote:
EmpireITtech;2656240 Wrote:
> My company however is soon to deploy some SUSE Enterprise servers,
> and I thought it would be a good idea to start using openSUSE to get
> my feet wet, so to speak.
You would be better off to start with SLES or SLED. openSUSE is
sufficiently different. Just register and download ISO; you will also
get 60 days access to updates to get a feeling how it works.
SLE11 is at kernel 3.0.101 currently, but it is pointless to compare
version numbers - enterprise kernels have large amount of backports.
Hi
If your moving forward with SLE, then openSUSE and the GNOME DE
(shell and even shell classic) along with systemd and btrfs are good
starting points…
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Thanks guys! Glad to see an active community here, always nice these days with so many Linux flavors out there
So upgrading the kernel is pretty much similar in openSUSE as it would be in Ubuntu, other than maybe some syntax changes in the command line?
Well I would like to get into openSUSE bc I mainly use Linux for personal needs, not business functions. My company going to SUSE servers but that will not change my role drastically (I mainly do MS SQL and SAP stuff). Them going to SUSE just re-sparked my interest in openSUSE as I had tried it out before the 13.1 release (not sure exactly which one, think it was in the 12.X family). I had a bad experience the 1st time, I will say, but I came to release that was mainly due to me using Gnome. I enjoy Cinnamon, MATE, Xfce, KDE much better, so I’ll give 13.1 KDE a run.
If you’re looking to test various Desktops,
In Ubuntu, distros with specific Desktops are treated as entire Distro variants of their own, eg Lubuntu, Kubuntu and Xubuntu.
None of that complete separation in openSUSE, you use the same Install media no matter the Desktop and select what you wish.
I don’t know that Ubuntu like other distros distinguishes between patching(retain library version), updating(replace with latest library version) and upgrading(move from one major distro version to another).
In openSUSE we provide better control and can specify any of the above.
Also, for us zypper provides all the various package and repository management functionality, just specify the desired action as an attribute… Unlike Ubuntu/Debian where you have different “apt” functions.
