new thumbleweed user

A question, thinking about to switch to the thumbleweed version.
but how about versions a firefox, kde sc, …

how it works?
for example, KDE SC is now “stable” @ 4.10
but not in the thumbleweed, is it for openSUSE not stable enough?

firefox:
in Index of /repositories/openSUSE:/Tumbleweed/standard/x86_64
i don’t see firefox, where from is the installtaion then?

what do you must have as repo:
Index of /pub/vlc/SuSE/Tumbleweed/
Index of /suse/openSUSE_Tumbleweed

It’s Tumbleweed not thumbleweed.

Please read the two posts (stickies) at the start of this subforum. That will explain the repos and saves us answering basic questions repeatedly. You should know that by now.

Firefox is in the standard oss and update repos, as there have been several security updates to it. Not everything is in tumbleweed repo on 12.2 and before. It’s getting closer to the release of openSUSE 12.3 and the configuration of the Tw repos will probably change and simplify. Maybe you should think about waiting for 12.3 to be available before switching. See the openSUSE website for the availability date.

I’m on openSUSE 12.3 RC1 at the moment :wink:
I’m searching a easy way to update , not mine, computers in the futher.
with the coming of openSUSE 12.3 i have to switch 3 computers, so i was thinking tumbleweed.

You will need to watch this subforum and the Tumbleweed wiki for details when it switches over.

Yes it’s the 12.2 version. “openSUSE-current” contains no packages and just points to the corresponding standard repo for the current release (i.e. 12.2)

(or is it more or less save to use “Lord_LT:/drivers/openSUSE_Tumbleweed” for nvidia rpm? thx to Lord_LT.

That looks like a user’s home repo for development, and those are considered to be unstable. Definitely not supported by Tumbleweed’s developer/maintainer.

Adding any repos not recommended in the Wiki or the forum’s articles/stickies will be “at your own risk” and totally unsupported.

OK thx for the good info
i have now switched a laptop from 12.2 to tumbleweed, so far so good, no package are lost :wink:
it’s running now kernel 3.7.7 @ kde 4.9.5 (before running kde 4.10, so it’s also possible to downgrade also)

so everything in “/repositories/…” is supported and maintained by openSUSE devs
like Index of /repositories/Application:/Geo/openSUSE_Tumbleweed
so i think it is save to use it but knowing that it’s not in the “real tumbleweed repo”
QlandkarteGT is not in the openSUSE-current, therefore :wink:

and everything in “/home:/…” is at own riske.

My repositories, that i believe it’s save to use in tumbleweed :wink:

Index of /mirror/ati/openSUSE_Tumbleweed

Index of /pub/vlc/SuSE/Tumbleweed/
Index of /suse/openSUSE_Tumbleweed

Index of /repositories/openSUSE:/Tumbleweed/standard
Index of /distribution/openSUSE-current/repo/oss
Index of /distribution/openSUSE-current/repo/non-oss
Index of /update/openSUSE-current
Index of /update/openSUSE-non-oss-current

Index of /repositories/Application:/Geo/openSUSE_Tumbleweed
Index of /repositories/Printing/openSUSE_Tumbleweed

other can be dropped becuase a version is in tumbleweed, but some packages are more up to date.
Index of /repositories/KDE:/Extra/openSUSE_Tumbleweed
Index of /repositories/LibreOffice:/Stable/openSUSE_Tumbleweed
Index of /repositories/Virtualization:/VirtualBox_Tumbleweed/openSUSE_Tumbleweed

Good to hear, but just to be clear on the “status quo” for repos:

so everything in “/repositories/…” is supported and maintained by openSUSE devs
like Index of /repositories/Application:/Geo/openSUSE_Tumbleweed
so i think it is save to use it but knowing that it’s not in the “real tumbleweed repo”
QlandkarteGT is not in the openSUSE-current, therefore ;-)to hear

and everything in “/home:/…” is at own riske.

There are many repos within the openSUSE Build Service, and all are considered unstable. That is compared to the standard distribution set (usually have “/distribution/…” in the URL) and some semi-official repos listed at https://en.opensuse.org/Package_repositories. Some OBS repos may be maintained by devs who also work on components of the distro, but I don’t know of any general rule about that.

Everything in “/home:/…” is a lottery. When nothing else was available on the standard distro, I have used a couple of those for graphics driver, got away with it for a while, and then had problems when the openSUSE release changed. I haven’t done that on Tumbleweed.

IIRC, currently Tumbleweed’s maintainer [and founder] will only support a system with the distro’s standard repos (oss, non-oss, update-oss, and update-non-oss) plus tumbleweed. The external Packman repos are “Additional Repositories”, i.e not officially part of the main distro or Tumbleweed, although many users enable them including me, and essential for multimedia applications. If a problem occurs involving repos outside Tumbleweed’s supported set, then you would need to take it up with their owners.

For any additional OBS repos, I consider keeping them disabled until I need to update or install more packages from them. For :home repos I always disable or remove them after installing packages.

The only general rule I follow wrt repos is: keep to the minimum possible number. For me enabled on Tumbleweed: 4x standard, tumbleweed, packman, and a couple of extra OBS repos enabled/disabled (but no :home repos). :slight_smile: