I must say that the new site looks very good!
Completely agreed. Nicely in line with the new LEAP artwork as well.
Cool.
It took me a while to discover how to locate individual software/s, i.e. deeper than the ISOs. Might be a challenge for new users.
But despite that: really good
I like it a lot.
The only thing I’d like to see is a bootstrap sidebar navigation that can slide open and shut.
Yes, it is a beautiful site with the Download link buried in the footer. I’d rather have an ugly site but with good functionality instead of a beautiful one which tries to hide the main objective of the site - getting the Open Source Suse.
Look at any other distribution and see that the Download menu is always easy to find. It used to be like this in Suse too, but not anymore.
This is a troubling sign for me. I smell corporate greed. They want to make it harder to ppl to find the open source version. If you go to the corporate site, the Download menu is a whole lot easier to find.
All in all, despite the much better looks, I don’t think that this design was made with the best intentions in mind.
Yes, it is a beautiful site with the Download link buried in the footer. I’d rather have an ugly site but with good functionality instead of a beautiful one which tries to hide the main objective of the site - getting the Open Source Suse.
Look at any other distribution and see that the Download menu is always easy to find. It used to be like this in Suse too, but not anymore.
This is a troubling sign for me. I smell corporate greed. They want to make it harder to ppl to find the open source version. If you go to the corporate site, the Download menu is a whole lot easier to find.
All in all, despite the much better looks, I don’t think that this design was made with the best intentions in mind.
I don’t understand your reasoning at all. If you google ‘openSUSE’, you get
Very easy to find Tumbleweed and Leap install pages from there.
I see now what you mean. I naturally ignore banners (usually they are just meaningless ads). The links are in the top banners.
For ppl that scan the page like me, the only link on the page is in the footer. Why not make a Download menu besides “Home | Tools| News | Contribute | Conferences”? For regular users, the Download menu is more important than any of the items already there.
Yesterday I browser the site with a tabled. The links in the top banners are only visible on hover. On tablet, you simply cannot see them.
Even on a Desktop is hard. Why do I need to hover over those items in order to find the Download link?!
Sorry, this is just bad design.
Please, that’s a load of hogwash, poppycock or <insert equally or harsher dismissive term here>
The new openSUSE Website was built by the openSUSE community, an independent open source community, sponsored by, but not run by, SUSE.
Just because we have a strong, supportive corporate sponsor, doesn’t mean you can blame everything you dont like on them 
especially with the way SUSE work with openSUSE - in those areas which interest SUSE, they work with openSUSE as peers, part of the community, not managers/masters/bosses.
If SUSE employees lead in a particular aspect of openSUSE, they’re leaders-by-merit, because they do the work, the same criteria every other openSUSE contributor has to follow to assert themselves in a role in the openSUSE Project.
And in those areas which SUSE are not that interested in openSUSE, they give us the freedom to innovate, because who knows, 10 years down the line the ‘crazy’ thing openSUSE started playing with ends up being something they need for their business.
Case in point with this website - yes, the lead designers are both SUSE Employees, but Cynthia and Zvesdana were working on this site entirely as volunteers. No boss at SUSE told them what to do or how to do it, they started working on it during a Hack Week (a week where SUSE gives R&D employees a week to do whatever they want) and then since then they have snuck in countless hours of their own free time (and sometimes a few hours in the office, with their boss turning a blind eye, because he wants to help openSUSE too ;)) to make the site what you see today
But that’s not all, this really has been a whole community effort, once the original drafts were done and on github (yes, in public, where everyone can see the whole site and it’s code), we’ve had contributors on our mailinglists and via the github issues feature providing feedback, suggestions, ideas , and so on and so forth. Your democratically elected openSUSE Board even got involved a little bit, giving some pointers here and there, and soft-launching the website at the openSUSE Conference during their keynote this year.
But that’s even not all, we’ve even have our translators and other contributors actually provide real actual code via github pull requests, actually changing the site you see there
Meanwhile, management at SUSE had no idea about anything to do with the website until it went live and the default homepage on all their openSUSE machines changed - (okay, admittedly that was partially my fault, maybe I should have told them, I’ve been busy…;))
I can give other examples too, Leap’s actually a good one, SUSE handing over the ‘crown jewels’ of the SUSE Enterprise sourecode and the sources for maintenance updates to openSUSE in the hope that openSUSE builds something cool with it. That’s a good example of SUSE coming up with an idea, doing what they can to make exciting things possible, and then leaving the exact shape, form, and outcome to the openSUSE project to shape as the community sees fit (hence Leap having a newer Kernel, X, etc etc than the SLE codebase…for example)
So, doubling back to the website - why is the ‘Download’ option less clear than on the old site?
Simple answer
openSUSE is NOT just a Linux Distribution
The old website gave that impression “Oh I’m on opensuse.org, there’s a bloody great big Download button, I want to download openSUSE, I’ll click it”
openSUSE is a diverse open source project which produces two different Linux Distributions (Tumbleweed and Leap), and a whole bunch of tools
We wanted the website to really reflect that aspect of our character, we’re a big diverse project and there is not just ‘one thing’ to Download
And so, the structure of the site and the menu options reflect that - are you interested in Tumbleweed or Leap? are you interested in OBS, openQA, or KIWI? All these different products of the openSUSE Project have different information and different methods and locations to Download from, but it’s the landing page’s responsibility to put it all together and present it in one consistent way for the world
And I think it does that just fine 
PS. Regarding downloading Leap/Tumbleweed on a Tablet - you really want to download a 4.2GB ISO on a tablet? That’s another part of ‘responsive design’ - hiding the parts that don’t make sense on mobile devices…
That’s an accusation, based on nothing. Another way to express this: you haven’t got a clue about what openSUSE is.
deano ferrari wrote:
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>> Look at any other distribution and see that the Download menu is
>> always easy to find. It used to be like this in Suse too, but not
>> anymore.
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>> This is a troubling sign for me. I smell corporate greed. They want
>> to make it harder to ppl to find the open source version. If you go
>> to the corporate site, the Download menu is a whole lot easier to
>> find.
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>> All in all, despite the much better looks, I don’t think that this
>> design was made with the best intentions in mind.
> I don’t understand your reasoning at all. If you google ‘openSUSE’,
> you get
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> https://www.opensuse.org/
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> Very easy to find Tumbleweed and Leap install pages from there.
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True. But if you are a newbie, how do you know that these aren’t quite
stable yet, and you have to go into the fine print at the bottom to
find 13.2? And suppose you know 13.1 is the current lts version and
you’d like to install that. How do you find it now?
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rue. But if you are a newbie, how do you know that these aren’t quite
stable yet, and you have to go into the fine print at the bottom to
find 13.2? And suppose you know 13.1 is the current lts version and
you’d like to install that. How do you find it now?
The new landing page has been designed to inform about all that the openSUSE Project is involved with, beyond just downloading a distro.
Anyway, more information here about the page and the developers here:
w/regards to Tumbleweed, there’s no ‘yet’ about it - it’s always stable, or else we don’t release updates to it until that’s true
w/regards to Leap, we’d rather have the website reflect the upcoming release, rather than have a wholly new website that advertises 13.2 for only a few weeks
w/regards to Evergreen - it never had a place on the old website, and given that (as far as I’ve been informed) the Evergreen team don’t intend to continue once they’re done with 13.1 as Leap covers that use case, then it seems silly to advertise something which is ‘on the way out’ also
Thanks for the definitive information Richard - appreciated 
IIRC openSUSE News told us regular users to use this search page as home: openSUSE Search
Top-right on that page is “Get Software”. How does that work for you?
With the… How nice to have a fresh homepage that delivers accurate information. Oh no, I don’t like this (how is written in English) shade of green. I was very happy to notice that beta of 42.x have a lack of it.
I Notice that RBrownSUSE…
I agree upon that some information is to hard to find. D-loads as a example. Wouldn’t it be good if the chairman wrote as additional info on the homepage as in his post. Explaining or gave his point of view of design(means something different in Swedish) and what openSUSE stands for.
With the… banned again, IMHO the new site is by 4/5 better then the old one.
regards