New laptop Dell Inspirion 5720 came with Win 8, thus UEFI. Can openSuse 12.1 (not 12.2) DVD boot and install with UEFI boot and grub2-efi?

Lost my earlier thread.

First change was to download and use PartedMagic to resize the Win8
partition to about 1/3 make another partition of about 1/3 in NTFS to
install my upgrade to Win7. Installed Win7 no sweat, it automatically
came up dual boot.

I have been able to get 12.1 to install but i booted the DVD in legacy
mode. I cannot get to the copy i installed to boot in UEFI or Legacy mode
and the boot from hard disk option on the DVD seems to be missing.

Or have i missed something?

?-)

On Tue 22 Jan 2013 03:06:57 AM CST, josephkk wrote:

Lost my earlier thread.

First change was to download and use PartedMagic to resize the Win8
partition to about 1/3 make another partition of about 1/3 in NTFS to
install my upgrade to Win7. Installed Win7 no sweat, it automatically
came up dual boot.

I have been able to get 12.1 to install but i booted the DVD in legacy
mode. I cannot get to the copy i installed to boot in UEFI or Legacy
mode and the boot from hard disk option on the DVD seems to be missing.

Or have i missed something?

?-)

Hi
When you boot do you have boot options you can select to ‘boot from a
UEFI cdrom’ or browse to a efi file?

The openSUSE install DVD (you can’t use a live cd) must boot in ELILO
for it to install the efi system…


Cheers Malcolm °¿° (Linux Counter #276890)
openSUSE 12.2 (x86_64) Kernel 3.4.11-2.16-desktop
up 6:10, 3 users, load average: 0.10, 0.10, 0.07
CPU Intel® i5 CPU M520@2.40GHz | GPU Intel® Ironlake Mobile

Have a look at this article: Booting openSUSE on UEFI BIOS with ELILO and Grub2 (part II - Windows dual-boot )

It is about 12.1 - not 12.2!

On Tue, 22 Jan 2013 07:36:04 GMT, please try again
<please_try_again@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:

>
>Have a look at this article: ‘Booting openSUSE on UEFI BIOS with ELILO
>and Grub2 (part II - Windows dual-boot )’ (http://tinyurl.com/d7eae4v)
>
>
>It is about 12.1 - not 12.2!

Yikes. I am going to have to study that a bit first.

Thranx.

?-)

If Windows 8 handles the size of the (unique) partition in protective MBR as “incorrectly” as Windows 7 does, openSUSE 12.1 setup is (most likely) going to create a hybrid MBR, with the consequence that Windows won’t boot anymore. The issue and the solution is described is this thread Trouble dual booting 12.2 and Windows 7 on EFI enabled system. It’s a long thread but interesting. I suggest you read it if you get in trouble (or maybe before you get in trouble).
Also check this bug report: Bug 781688 - Dual installation of openSUSE after Windows 7 on UEFI system makes Windows unbootable.

On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 10:06:04 GMT, please try again
<please_try_again@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:

>
>If Windows 8 handles the size of the (unique) partition in protective
>MBR as “incorrectly” as Windows 7 does, openSUSE 12.1 setup is (most
>likely) going to create a hybrid MBR, with the consequence that Windows
>won’t boot anymore. The issue and the solution is described is this
>thread ‘Trouble dual booting 12.2 and Windows 7 on EFI enabled system’
>(http://tinyurl.com/atakm6a). It’s a long thread but interesting. I
>suggest you read it if you get in trouble (or maybe before you get in
>trouble).
>Also check this bug report: ‘Bug 781688 - Dual installation of openSUSE
>after Windows 7 on UEFI system makes Windows unbootable’
>(https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=781688).

Thanks for the additional links. More studying before i go for it again
but at least this time i will have a fighting chance.

?-)

On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 05:45:26 GMT, josephkk <joseph_barrett@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

>On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 10:06:04 GMT, please try again
><please_try_again@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:
>
>>
>>If Windows 8 handles the size of the (unique) partition in protective
>>MBR as “incorrectly” as Windows 7 does, openSUSE 12.1 setup is (most
>>likely) going to create a hybrid MBR, with the consequence that Windows
>>won’t boot anymore. The issue and the solution is described is this
>>thread ‘Trouble dual booting 12.2 and Windows 7 on EFI enabled system’
>>(http://tinyurl.com/atakm6a). It’s a long thread but interesting. I
>>suggest you read it if you get in trouble (or maybe before you get in
>>trouble).
>>Also check this bug report: ‘Bug 781688 - Dual installation of openSUSE
>>after Windows 7 on UEFI system makes Windows unbootable’
>>(https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=781688).
>
>
>Thanks for the additional links. More studying before i go for it again
>but at least this time i will have a fighting chance.
>
>?-)

Ok i have many backups in place but neither the install DVD nor the KDE3
live CD provide any way to backup the GPT partition table. Because of the
protective MBR thing i really want to do that. Guess it is back to
sysrescuecd.

?-)

Check gdisk documentation. As far as I remember*, it does have options to do that.
gdisk is on the 12.3 live CD (but not 12.2)

  • I never used this feature, but I read about it on gdisk web page, I guess.

On Sun 10 Feb 2013 04:56:02 AM CST, please try again wrote:

josephkk;2525927 Wrote:
>
> Ok i have many backups in place but neither the install DVD nor the
> KDE3
> live CD provide any way to backup the GPT partition table. Because of
> the
> protective MBR thing i really want to do that. Guess it is back to
> sysrescuecd.
>
> ?-)

Check gdisk documentation. As far as I remember*, it does have options
to do that.
gdisk is on the 12.3 live CD (but not 12.2)

  • I never used this feature, but I read about it on gdisk web page, I
    guess.

Hi
I have a script to do that (part of my gummiboot pkg), modify as
required;

http://paste.opensuse.org/96859832


Cheers Malcolm °¿° (Linux Counter #276890)
openSUSE 12.2 (x86_64) Kernel 3.4.11-2.16-desktop
up 2 days 10:37, 4 users, load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.05
CPU Intel® i5 CPU M520@2.40GHz | GPU Intel® Ironlake Mobile

You can install openSUSE in non-EFI mode and choose option install no bootloader, then use a linux live CD to chroot in openSUSE system and install EFI bootloader later, remember mount ESP in /boot/efi when install openSUSE. But if you can boot DVD in EFI, it’s a lot easier to live :stuck_out_tongue:

On Sun, 10 Feb 2013 13:06:02 GMT, kientux
<kientux@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:

>
>You can install openSUSE in non-EFI mode and choose option install no
>bootloader, then use a linux live CD to chroot in openSUSE system and
>install EFI bootloader later, remember mount ESP in /boot/efi when
>install openSUSE. But if you can boot DVD in EFI, it’s a lot easier to
>live :stuck_out_tongue:

That is the way i went. 12.1 boots but i would like to get Win7 back. And
anything that can do that will also get Win8 back.

?-)

On Mon, 18 Feb 2013 00:06:47 GMT, josephkk <joseph_barrett@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

>On Sun, 10 Feb 2013 13:06:02 GMT, kientux
><kientux@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:
>
>>
>>You can install openSUSE in non-EFI mode and choose option install no
>>bootloader, then use a linux live CD to chroot in openSUSE system and
>>install EFI bootloader later, remember mount ESP in /boot/efi when
>>install openSUSE. But if you can boot DVD in EFI, it’s a lot easier to
>>live :stuck_out_tongue:
>
>That is the way i went. 12.1 boots but i would like to get Win7 back. And
>anything that can do that will also get Win8 back.
>
>?-)

I seem to be having problems installing grub2-efi, i hope it is a
transient issue with the repositories; the packages seem download ok but
barf at install. Capturing the error presents problems as it occurs on
the target machine (not this machine) that is not quite properly installed
yet. It does not yet have much useful networking, guess i may have to try
memory gum sticks.

?-((

On Wed, 20 Feb 2013 08:18:19 GMT, josephkk <joseph_barrett@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

>On Mon, 18 Feb 2013 00:06:47 GMT, josephkk <joseph_barrett@sbcglobal.net>
>wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 10 Feb 2013 13:06:02 GMT, kientux
>><kientux@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>You can install openSUSE in non-EFI mode and choose option install no
>>>bootloader, then use a linux live CD to chroot in openSUSE system and
>>>install EFI bootloader later, remember mount ESP in /boot/efi when
>>>install openSUSE. But if you can boot DVD in EFI, it’s a lot easier to
>>>live :stuck_out_tongue:
>>
>>That is the way i went. 12.1 boots but i would like to get Win7 back. And
>>anything that can do that will also get Win8 back.
>>
>>?-)
>
>I seem to be having problems installing grub2-efi, i hope it is a
>transient issue with the repositories; the packages seem download ok but
>barf at install. Capturing the error presents problems as it occurs on
>the target machine (not this machine) that is not quite properly installed
>yet. It does not yet have much useful networking, guess i may have to try
>memory gum sticks.
>
>?-((

Well spit. I managed to bork the open suse so bad that not even a
reinstall would get it to boot again. Restored old EFI partition and
Win7&8 came right back. Reinstalled again, DL grub2 & grub2-efi. but
can’t seem to get Yast to change from elilo to grub2-efi. Don’t
understand why either.

Not much fun on that EFI machine yet.

?-)