Opensuse 12.3
KDE 4.10
After installing a new hard disk I am reinstalling opensuse from a LiveCD and fighting again the Nvideo issues.
I reread my old threads and one comment was that it is better to install from the full DVD rather than the Live.
Is that true ? If so, I can do that after downloading it.
Also, is the next step after the install to go into Yast and do an online update ?
thanks
On 2013-10-22 13:26, hextejas wrote:
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> Opensuse 12.3
> KDE 4.10
>
> After installing a new hard disk I am reinstalling opensuse from a
> LiveCD and fighting again the Nvideo issues.
> I reread my old threads and one comment was that it is better to install
> from the full DVD rather than the Live.
>
> Is that true ? If so, I can do that after downloading it.
>
> Also, is the next step after the install to go into Yast and do an
> online update ?
I always install from DVD, but I never allow it to do an online update.
Instead, I wait till my system boots normally, and then I run yast
online update.
However, on some cases, you need to do the update from inside the DVD
install procedure, because there is some broken package that will not
allow you to boot. That is, you know in advance that this is going to
happen.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 12.3 x86_64 “Dartmouth” at Telcontar)
I normally suggest using the DVD for your install unless you have a slow internet connection to get the ISO file. You are more likely to have all of the apps you want up front. You still need to do an online update after the install is complete and I suggest that you use a wired network connection for the install if its an option.
Thank You,
I prefer Live ISO because it allows me to check out the OS “live” before rebooting and installing on my machine.
But if you want any DE(E17,XFCE,LXDE) other than KDE,GNOME then you have to go in for DVD
I suggest you want both as the LiveDVD is good for system repair.
Thank You,
Ok, the install is done from the full DVD and it is a lot closer to being correct than from the “Live”.
I have a problem watching videos so I need to figure that out. The pictures are scrambled. Both from YouTube and Sleepy Hollow.
It might be the video driver, I am using whatever the original distr installed, or some feature of Firefox.
I think I will fool around with the Nvidia drivers.
Oh yeah, Lucky backup did a good job restoring my money files. Phew !!
Is it the system from this thread?
https://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-technical-help-here/install-boot-login/489505-finished-install-now-wont-start-suse.html
Then you can install the nvidia driver like this, provided you use kernel-desktop (run “uname -a” to check):
sudo zypper ar ftp://download.nvidia.com/opensuse/12.3 nvidia
sudo zypper in x11-video-nvidiaG02 nvidia-computeG02 nvidia-gfxG02-kmp-desktop
For playing multimedia, please read this blog: https://forums.opensuse.org/blogs/caf4926/opensuse-12-3-multi-media-restricted-format-installation-guide-126/
I suggest you give the open source video driver a try before loading any other video driver.
Thank You,
On 2013-10-22 19:56, jdmcdaniel3 wrote:
> I suggest you want both as the LiveDVD is good for system repair.
For system repair there is a dedicated CD image, the XFCE CD rescue
image. It contains many more things.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 12.3 x86_64 “Dartmouth” at Telcontar)
On 2013-10-22 20:26, wolfi323 wrote:
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> hextejas;2592859 Wrote:
>> I think I will fool around with the Nvidia drivers.
>>
> Is it the system from this thread?
> http://tinyurl.com/mda6a7x
>
> Then you can install the nvidia driver like this, provided you use
> kernel-desktop (run “uname -a” to check):
What’s wrong with the “easy way” described in the openSUSE wiki?
NVIDIA
NVIDIA the hard
way NVIDIA
drivers Nvidia video cards
NVIDIA
troubleshooting
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 12.3 x86_64 “Dartmouth” at Telcontar)
Well, if you click on the wrong 1-click install, you get the wrong driver. And it’s easier to paste the exact zypper commands. 
Also it can happen under certain circumstances that the wrong kernel module gets installed (kmp-default for kernel-desktop f.e.).
On 2013-10-23 12:16, wolfi323 wrote:
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> robin_listas;2592872 Wrote:
>> What’s wrong with the “easy way” described in the openSUSE wiki?
>>
> Well, if you click on the wrong 1-click install, you get the wrong
> driver. 
I meant simply activating the nvidia repository from the community repo
list, which automatically adds the addecuate driver.
> Also it can happen under certain circumstances that the wrong kernel
> module gets installed (kmp-default for kernel-desktop f.e.).
That’s a bug in the database which you should report in bugzilla.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 12.3 x86_64 “Dartmouth” at Telcontar)
On 2013-10-22, Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:
> What’s wrong with the “easy way” described in the openSUSE wiki?
Because it’s often unreliable and therefore not necessarily as easy' as the wiki suggests. What the wiki calls the hard way’ is the only method that works everytime, and therefore I’d call it the `easy way’!
On 2013-10-23 13:24, flymail wrote:
> On 2013-10-22, Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:
>> What’s wrong with the “easy way” described in the openSUSE wiki?
>
> Because it’s often unreliable and therefore not necessarily as `easy’ as the wiki suggests. What the wiki calls the
hard way' is the only method that works everytime, and therefore I'd call it theeasy way’!
At the cost of having no video on every kernel update.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 12.3 x86_64 “Dartmouth” at Telcontar)
This doesn’t work with all cards AFAIK.
And the “easy way” is via the 1-click install according to the links you posted. Adding the repo and letting the driver be selected automatically isn’t even mentioned there AFAICS…
> Also it can happen under certain circumstances that the wrong kernel
> module gets installed (kmp-default for kernel-desktop f.e.).
That’s a bug in the database which you should report in bugzilla.
No, that’s a “bug” in libzypp (the dependency solver), and I already reported it months ago.
I even tried to analyze the circumstances under which it occurs:
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=802624#c31
And there’s also:
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=844318
That’s why I prefer and recommend the “repository way”.
That one works reliable and everytime (as long as you select the correct packages to install of course, but that’s not much different to the “hard way”).
Another advantage to the “hard way” is that it pulls in all needed development packages automatically. If you are missing the kernel headers or gcc f.e. the “hard way” won’t work.
On 2013-10-23, Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:
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> At the cost of having no video on every kernel update.
… I’d rather have video working than no-video in the first place. And a trivial execution of `NVIDIAetc…run’ after
any kernel update is not an onerous cost.
I think that’s what I did robin. These are the files I downloaded, as I think I remember the magic version number being 304.88.
I first did a search in Yast for Nvidia* but nothing turned up. If they are in there somewhere I sure don’t know how to find them.
I think that I then read some of the links in the easy-hard way and came up with these 3 files.
I did find out that they need to be done in a proper order otherwise I got some pesky not found messages.
And of course, I forgot to write down what the order is. I think it’s 1,2,3.
1) Oct 22 13:28 nvidia-computeG02-304.88-26.1.x86_64.rpm
2) Oct 22 13:28 nvidia-gfxG02-kmp-desktop-304.88_k3.7.10_1.1-25.1.x86_64.rpm
3) Oct 22 13:30 x11-video-nvidiaG02-304.88-26.1.x86_64.rpm
All appears well now though if I have to go through this again, shudders, I will need to document an easier way to update the Nvidia drivers.
I saw this file and wondered what it was.
nvidia-settings-325.15-1.3.x64.rpm
Oh yeah, I am getting better and finding my around though it still took me longer in openSUSE than had I been doing a fresh install and restore in Windoze.
thanks again
Wolfie, please show me how to do this, the repository way. I need to document this in case I have to go through this again.
thanks
Just add the nvidia repo and it should be updated automatically. Either use that “sudo zypper ar” line I gave you earlier, or start YaST->Software Repositories, click on “Add”, choose “Community Repositories”. It should be the first option there.
I saw this file and wondered what it was.
nvidia-settings-325.15-1.3.x64.rpm
Please, don’t install this. That’s nvidia-settings from the G03 (325.15) driver, you have the correct version for your driver (G02/304.88) anyway.
It is included with the driver.
I already mentioned this a while ago on the Packman mailinglist and it already got unpublished there, but the binaries are still in the repo for 12.3.