Just installed OpenSUSE 11.4 a few days ago and am totally updated.
When in KDE, if I create a new, empty folder using Dolphin or Konsole (Or from any application within KDE) and then log out, the folder is deleted. If I create a folder and put some data in it, then it stays.
When I ctrl+alt+f1 to a console and create an empty folder, then it stays, so its just inside KDE where this happens.
Im not even sure how to troubleshoot this. I checked dmesg and some log files, but don’t see anything of interest.
I installed OpenSUSE 11.4 into a Virtual machine and it did the same thing, so this doesn’t appear to be an isolated issue; sounds like a pretty major bug. I wanted to get some ideas from here before I submit a bug report, however.
Just installed OpenSUSE 11.4 a few days ago and am totally updated.
When in KDE, if I create a new, empty folder using Dolphin or Konsole (Or from any application within KDE) and then log out, the folder is deleted. If I create a folder and put some data in it, then it stays.
When I ctrl+alt+f1 to a console and create an empty folder, then it stays, so its just inside KDE where this happens.
Im not even sure how to troubleshoot this. I checked dmesg and some log files, but don’t see anything of interest.
I installed OpenSUSE 11.4 into a Virtual machine and it did the same thing, so this doesn’t appear to be an isolated issue; sounds like a pretty major bug. I wanted to get some ideas from here before I submit a bug report, however.
Anyone have any ideas?
Thanks!
Joe
I just created a folder I called test (/home/james/test) in my home area as a standard user (not as root), it is empty and then I logged out of KDE and then back in and this test folder is still there. So I am thinking it has to be the name you use for the folder or the location you are creating this folder or your user persona that is the problem. Could you be much more specific as to what , where and as who you are creating this folder that is going away on you after logging out and then back into KDE?
Well, I am trying to create a folder called JoesGames in /home/jgiles. I can create the folder but if I don’t put anything in it, and log out, then back in, its just not there anymore.
If I create the same folder from a console login, then it stays.
Should I try deleting my .kde4 directory and start again? Maybe I set something or some profile setting and don’t remember :-D.
Well, I am trying to create a folder called JoesGames in /home/jgiles. I can create the folder but if I don’t put anything in it, and log out, then back in, its just not there anymore.
If I create the same folder from a console login, then it stays.
Should I try deleting my .kde4 directory and start again? Maybe I set something or some profile setting and don’t remember :-D.
Joe
Well I would just create another user, log in as that person and try the test again, before I removed my primary log in. I can imagine having almost any problem but the difficult thing to understand is the ability to duplicate this in more than one copy of openSUSE. Right now if I run Dolphin, I see that it is listed as version 1.6 and that KDE is listed as 4.6.0 release 6. Perhaps we need the same info from you.
Yeah, I installed VirtualBox on the same machine and it does the same thing. One thing to note, however, is that I copied over my profile to the VM.
I will try to create a new user later when I get home; I am at work now and do not have gui access. However, I do have ssh access so if you need any log files or other information I can get from console, let me know.
Yeah, I installed VirtualBox on the same machine and it does the same thing. One thing to note, however, is that I copied over my profile to the VM.
I will try to create a new user later when I get home; I am at work now and do not have gui access. However, I do have ssh access so if you need any log files or other information I can get from console, let me know.
Thanks so much!
Joe
Well I am thinking a new user is the way to go and if there is a problem with your persona, a new user without the problem would explain a lot. I will be online tonight as well and will see your response when you get home, if not too late.
You could at least do some tests from a terminal window for your own satisfaction and also to be able to show us here (within CODE tags of course).
Thus you open a terminal window and then do (from your home directory):
ls -l JoesGames
to show that is does not exist.
Then create the directory in the way you do this all the time and then repeat the statement above to show if it exists or not.
Then log out and log in and again do the statement to prove that it is gone.
This is what is called: gathering faccts.
When it is realy gone, then you can repeat this, but between logout and login you could go to the console on logical screen 1 (with Ctrl-Alt-F1) log in there and look if it vanished at the logout or later at login.
Well, the problem with this, is from a terminal log in (via local console (ctrl+alt+f1)) or remote ssh session, it works without issue. I can create the directory and log out and back in and it remains. Its just from the KDE log in from gui where it does this.
I will try to get a video of it from my camera to show. Its really bizarre for sure :).
You did not understand what I said. In short I said to CHECK FROM THE CONSOLE what happens when you CREATE FROM KDE. Please read again my recipe. Everything you do from KDE should be checked from the console. You should work methodicaly.
On 03/25/2011 06:06 PM, Joeg1484 wrote:
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> I will try to get a video of it from my camera to show. Its really
> bizarre for sure :).
couldn’t you make a series of screen shots, and up load to paste.opensus.org ??
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However, I have done these tests. When I get back to my computer, I will do it again and post the output. One thing I am also going to try is doing an strace on the mkdir command from within konsole to see if there are any anomalies there. Its just strange that it only does it from within the applications in KDE. Outside KDE, it works fine.
Some example apps that this is happening in that I have recently tested were:
Frostwire - This is the application I was using where I saw the problem first. I did the initial launch and setup of the app, then rebooted for some reason - updates I think. Then, when I re launched it, it said it could not find the save folders. Then, I recreated them only to have the error repeat on a log out.
Dolphin - After the Frostwire issue, I decided to just create the folders manually thinking that there was something wrong with Java. Same issues as above; however, I did notice that if I touch a file inside the new folder, it would not delete.
konsole - to further the investigations, I tried to create folders from cli within konsole. When I would exit and log out, then log back in to KDE, re launch konsole and do an ls -l, the folder was gone. Also confirmed from Dolphin.
Where it works:
console login - If I ctrl+alt+f1 to a console and create a dir using mkdir, then log out or reboot, then its visible from within KDE.
I will also attempt to gather a video of it while its happening. I have to find my camera though and hope its sharp enough to see :-D.
Apparently, there are some settings in smb4k that was causing the issue. I unload smb4k and I can create folders all day long and they stay on a log out or reboot. As soon as I launch smb4k and create a folder, then exit smb4k, it kills the folder(s) with it.
I will have to poke around with it to see why its doing this.
Looks like the setting in question is this from the smb4k config file:
[Shares]
MountPrefix=file:///home/jgiles/
UnmountSharesOnExit=true
Its the only thing i could find that may be relevant. Sounds like when I created a folder, SMB4K thinks its a new share.
I will have to change that to false and see what happens.
Joe
Happy to hear you found the problem. I have run SMB4K before, but I really never found it all that useful. If you are just trying to find shares it might be good, but this is one program I think you can do without.
Yeah, its a small network and I use smb4k to map samba shares from our server here. I love Gnome in that when you click on the share name, it auto mounts it for you. KDE uses kio slaves and other applications don’t understand smb://sharename; they usually want a fs mount.
If you can recommend another gui tool that will locate shares and mount them, that would be great.
I used to just mount then in fstab and store a credentials file in my home dir, but I don’t need all the shares mounted at the same time.
Yeah, its a small network and I use smb4k to map samba shares from our server here. I love Gnome in that when you click on the share name, it auto mounts it for you. KDE uses kio slaves and other applications don’t understand smb://sharename; they usually want a fs mount.
If you can recommend another gui tool that will locate shares and mount them, that would be great.
I used to just mount then in fstab and store a credentials file in my home dir, but I don’t need all the shares mounted at the same time.
Any ideas?
Thanks!
Joe
So I don’t “mount” remote drives any more. Due to all sorts of reasons. I have a mix of Windows and Linux clients. I set them all on the same workgroup name, then browse the computer smb shares with Dolphin. I then elect to copy what I want and put it on a local folder. Sudden reboots or other dumb things one can do does not mess up the remote drive. I also just share and copy to/from NTFS partitions. I set the local NTFS partition to just using defaults in my fstab file and everything is well with the world. Mounting of remote drives to your local drive is very much like mounting a remote drive letter in Windows. But I just got out of doing it that way.
Well, I do appreciate your attention to this thread! I am pretty new to OpenSUSE, but I have been using Linux for about 15 years or so in all kinds of environments. Last several years, I have been on Ubuntu and Gnome; although, I started out with KDE way back with Red Hat 5.2 (Not RHEL).
So far, I am really enjoying OpenSUSE and looking forward to helping others where I can.
Well, I do appreciate your attention to this thread! I am pretty new to OpenSUSE, but I have been using Linux for about 15 years or so in all kinds of environments. Last several years, I have been on Ubuntu and Gnome; although, I started out with KDE way back with Red Hat 5.2 (Not RHEL).
So far, I am really enjoying OpenSUSE and looking forward to helping others where I can.
Again, I thank you for your help!
Joe
We are partial to openSUSE here, of course, but I really think that the openSUSE forum is just the best. By all means, if you see somewhere you can help here, please do so. When you help others, it can get you out of your normal Linux comfort zone and try new things you never would have thought of doing before. Thus, you learn even more, while helping others. It is a win/win situation.
