On 10/05/13 16:26, Knurpht wrote:
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> DenverD;2555617 Wrote:
>>>
>>> On the webforum,
>>
>> using nntp you don’t need to know! Sådan!
>>
>> –
>> dd
>> openSUSE®, the “German Engineered Automobile” of operating systems!
>
> Please stop this, the OP asks about the webforum. If I ask directions
> for public transport to some place, “buy a car” is not an answer to my
> question.
>
> To the OP: clear cache and cookies of your browser. Your double
> identity has been reported, will be dealt with by the admins. The cause
> of this might very well be in that area. Clearing cache and cookies
> should fix the reply button.
>
>
It didn’t helped me
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Erik Jakobsen
Opensuse 12.3
Linux linux-z96b.site 3.7.10-1.4-desktop
On 2013-05-11 15:26, consused wrote:
> It seems to me that forums tend to be less structured and formal wrt
> threads than say mailing lists and newsgroups.
It is not the same type of formality, but it is there.
In mailing lists you can make a double post, here one is deleted. Or you
can post to two lists; here that is considered impolite and one is closed.
In mail lists a reply to a post can happen separated from the thread
because the mail client broke something. This is very rare here: but it
can happen when a thread is moved, but someone replies via nntp before
reading the move warning.
In mail lists one can create a seemingly new post, which in fact is a
reply to an old post in the thread: this is called “thread hijacking”.
Here people can tag a question to an old thread thinking that it is is
the same problem, but we frown and tell him to post a new thread instead.
Of course there is formality here, and it it is enforced. On mail lists
this is more difficult to do. There are moderated mail lists, but they
are not that common: someone would have to read every post before they
are accepted. Once mail is sent, the list admin can not remove it
(except from the archive). On a forum, posts can be removed after being
published.
In mail lists, people want posters to respect the threading, because if
you don’t it is almost impossible to track answers: so they can get
nasty with people not respecting those rules. Here it is impossible to
post a reply outside of the thread it is answering to, so that is not a
problem. There is a minor problem in that answers can be made on a
different branch of the same thread: this is confusing in very long threads.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 12.1 x86_64 “Asparagus” at Telcontar)
>>> I did sent the message. Thanks for the link
>>>
>>
>> So far no reply to the mail I sent
>>
>> –
>> Erik Jakobsen
>> Opensuse 12.3
>> Linux linux-z96b.site 3.7.10-1.4-desktop
>
> Erik, please note:
> - the different time-zones we’re in
> - it’s a weekend, and more: yesterday was Mothersday
> - we’re all volunteers, doing what we do in the forums in our spare
> time, where most of us have families and so on.
>
>
You are quite right
Erik Jakobsen
Opensuse 12.3
Linux linux-z96b.site 3.7.10-1.4-desktop
Carlos E. R. wrote:
> On 2013-05-10 17:16, consused wrote:
>> The downside is that anyone using threaded mode (if there is anyone?)
>> is forced to quote in order to maintain position in tree.
>
> We nntp users use threaded mode (my educated guess).
Not this one I’ve no idea about other people.
FWIW, I try to treat forums pretty much the same as mail lists. If
you’re replying, always quote the context for your reply. It avoids
ambiguity and, on forums where posts can be edited, it avoids later
troll damage.
On 2013-05-13 11:40, Dave Howorth wrote:
> Carlos E. R. wrote:
>> We nntp users use threaded mode (my educated guess).
>
> Not this one I’ve no idea about other people.
No? Then what sort method do you use? :-o
If I sort by date, flat, all threads are mixed, I do not get all the
posts of a single thread connected. I can not know what threads I’m
watching, unless I happen to remember the subject lines.
> FWIW, I try to treat forums pretty much the same as mail lists. If
> you’re replying, always quote the context for your reply. It avoids
> ambiguity and, on forums where posts can be edited, it avoids later
> troll damage.
Absolutely.
Although this is the only forum in which I participate, due to others
not having nntp gateway.
Otherwise, I post once or twice to ask a question, then I disappear.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 12.1 x86_64 “Asparagus” at Telcontar)
Respect for the threading is the difference I was mainly thinking of, including branches.
There is a minor problem in that answers can be made on a
different branch of the same thread: this is confusing in very long threads.
Yes, and more difficult in Linear mode, but less of a problem with the choice limited to “reply to thread” or “reply with quote”. With no quote, the post adds to the trunk as a potential branch point or “going nowhere”.
Sådan!
