Need help with the post-installation (XFCE4)

HI all,

I am pretty new to OpenSuse but I am an old Debian user, and probably this could put me in a wrong path so I have some questions and some issues to resolve.

I decided to give to my kid an old laptop (HP 635) that I bought because it was one of the first to be sold with a linux os, specifically just SLED, I was tempting to install Debian testing as usual in any my computers but eventually I opted to OST, even to test and use a true rolling distro (being rolling is not the main scope of any Debian).

The installation, with the net version, after several trials was completed, the installer even if recognized the cable connected always switched for the wifi and had trouble to download the package from internet. Eventually it started download the packages from the ethernet and it ended with the wifi, weird but it worked.

The hardware recognition was fine, the setup of the audio was fine trough the Yast applet, as DE I selected XFCE but I didn’t like the meta-package I found leafpad instead of mousepad, other multimedia player instead of the ones that belong to the DE, weird.

The laptop, especially with Yast opened, tends to freeze, but I haven’t investigated the reason yet. So far I remember one of the bottleneck of this laptop was the hard-drive at 5200rpm so I bought a cheap kingstone ssd but I didn’t see any particular improvement. This laptop is equipped with 6GB or Ram shared with the APU, so 5GB are for the OS and 1GB for the integrated GPU.

00:00.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 14h Processor Root Complex
00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Wrestler [Radeon HD 6320]
00:01.1 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Wrestler HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 6250/6310]
00:11.0 SATA controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 SATA Controller [AHCI mode]
00:12.0 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB OHCI0 Controller
00:12.2 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB EHCI Controller
00:14.0 SMBus: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SBx00 SMBus Controller (rev 42)
00:14.2 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) (rev 40)
00:14.3 ISA bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 LPC host controller (rev 40)
00:14.4 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SBx00 PCI to PCI Bridge (rev 40)
00:14.5 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB OHCI2 Controller
00:15.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SB700/SB800/SB900 PCI to PCI bridge (PCIE port 0)
00:15.1 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SB700/SB800/SB900 PCI to PCI bridge (PCIE port 1)
00:15.3 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SB900 PCI to PCI bridge (PCIE port 3)
00:16.0 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB OHCI0 Controller
00:16.2 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB EHCI Controller
00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 12h/14h Processor Function 0 (rev 43)
00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 12h/14h Processor Function 1
00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 12h/14h Processor Function 2
00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 12h/14h Processor Function 3
00:18.4 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 12h/14h Processor Function 4
00:18.5 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 12h/14h Processor Function 6
00:18.6 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 12h/14h Processor Function 5
00:18.7 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 12h/14h Processor Function 7
02:00.0 Unassigned class [ff00]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTS5209 PCI Express Card Reader (rev 01)
06:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller (rev 05)
07:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)

I used the graphical installer and I created my user that will be the administrator (trough sudo) afterward I created the user for my son and at this point I found the first issues and first difference with Debian. Starting from the latter I noticed that by default my users aren’t associated to any groups but users and some groups available on Debian are missing in OST. I thought that maybe OST handles the users and groups differently from Debian however in the OS wiki there isn’t written any specific information. I mean shouldn’t the users be associated with, at least, the following groups:

cdrom sudo audio video plugdev lp users input netdev spi

I am confused and because when I do login with any user the system requests root password for the bluetooth controll and for rfkill I was wondering if these password requests, that I can’t satisfied since the moment I didn’t create a root password, may depend by the fact none of the users belong to the bluetooth and rfkill groups. I can modify the visudo file but ti would be better if I am able to understand what is happening instead to change some special files that bypass the issue.

Right now this is my first issue which is connected by the collateral fact that the wifi doesn’t connect automatically and it may depends by rfkill.

I hope this is going to be the only issue I have to face off…

Then I have others very minors problems, it is known that repository of Debian is huge so I am looking for a couple of package that I didn’t found in the OST repository and are:

I saw these packages available here: https://build.opensuse.org however I don’t know how it work yet and don’t know if you can trust this packages nor event it theme are going to work on my OST.

Thank for reading till here, I hope you can help with my issuese!

While you can add users to groups if/when required, for the most part this is not needed. The logged in user gains access to device nodes via ACLs thanks to udev. The polkit framework is used to provide elevated privileges where required (eg for NetworkManager) and these can be tweaked as required by the system administrator, depending on how much one wants to lock down the system.

BTW, the openSUSE guides are a useful source of information. Even though you’re using TW they are relevant for the most part…

https://doc.opensuse.org/

Right now this is my first issue which is connected by the collateral fact that the wifi doesn’t connect automatically and it may depends by rfkill.

Are you using NetworkManager? Did you configure the wireless connection to start automatically?

Simply use Yast, Software Installer, and there is a huge choice of multimedia players.

Also, follow this guide to set up your multimedia experience: https://forums.opensuse.org/entry.php/176-Leap-42-3-Multimedia-Guide

Yes, it says 42.3, but it is still valid with Tumbleweed and Leap 15.0.

I also use Xfce, but I do not like leafpad nor mousepad. Instead, I installed KWrite and Kate, much prefer that. Note that you can install KDE or other packages in Xfce to get one that suits your personal preference. I use a few KDE apps that I prefer.

The laptop, especially with Yast opened, tends to freeze, but I haven’t investigated the reason yet. So far I remember one of the bottleneck of this laptop was the hard-drive at 5200rpm so I bought a cheap kingstone ssd but I didn’t see any particular improvement. This laptop is equipped with 6GB or Ram shared with the APU, so 5GB are for the OS and 1GB for the integrated GPU.

Are these hard freezes, or temporary freezes? If temporary, and a new installation, it could be indexing activities and similar.

If not, such problems are usually GPU related, so you may want to start a separate thread with that issue clearly outlining in its title that you have Freeze problems with an AMD/Radeon GPU on board. Note we strongly encourage our Users to post only one issue per thread to eliminate a lot of confusion, and so that – in this case – our AMD/Radeon-knowledgeable Users will spot it and offer (probably tons) of help.:wink:

BTW: Thanks for understanding and using the Code tags, so much easier to work with.

I am confused and because when I do login with any user the system requests root password for the bluetooth controll and for rfkill I was wondering if these password requests, that I can’t satisfied since the moment I didn’t create a root password, may depend by the fact none of the users belong to the bluetooth and rfkill groups. I can modify the visudo file but ti would be better if I am able to understand what is happening instead to change some special files that bypass the issue.

If you used the graphical installer, it would have given you a choice of giving a separate password for root. If you did not create a separate password for root, then the password you created for your user is the same password for root.

I hope this is going to be the only issue I have to face off…

There might be a few, but you have come to the right place. Plenty of advanced users are on this Forum volunteering their own, spare time and giving great help and information. We pride ourselves in having a friendly, supportive Community and Forum.

(… sometimes, though, some of us slip up, which is why we have a Moderators team)

Then I have others very minors problems, it is known that repository of Debian is huge so I am looking for a couple of package that I didn’t found in the OST repository and are:

I saw these packages available here: https://build.opensuse.org however I don’t know how it work yet and don’t know if you can trust this packages nor event it theme are going to work on my OST.

These are often packaged by Community Members ranging in experience from newbie to full-out Developers, so the quality range can vary widely. However, they are Community Members and are not out to damage your system. You can always try them. If they work, then good. Just make absolutely certain the version you install matches the version of openSUSE you are running (in your case, so far, Tumbleweed), or they might add the wrong Repo to your list, which often then causes some of our users difficulties until we straighten out their Repo list – or, I should say, we tell them HOW to straighten out their Repos.

BTW, why did you not go with the more stable openSUSE Leap 15.0? Looking for adventure? Using Tumbleweed, you are more likely to come in here with periodic problems looking for help, although – yes – it is tested and is mostly very stable for a rolling release.

Thank for reading till here, I hope you can help with my issues!

I am certain there are many here who can do just that, and will thoroughly enjoy doing so, as well as enjoy the interaction while doing so.:slight_smile:

FYI: without wanting to start a discussion, openSUSE still uses a real root user, I know a lot of Debian based distros don’t. The thing you have to remember is to use the root password when invoking sudo.
If you’re looking for software packages, use https://software.opensuse.org , avoid using home:USERNAME repos, they’re the place where devs and packagers break things occasionally. Because it’s meant to happen there and not in the distro’s repos. Still, sometimes you have no other options if depending on a certain package f.e. for work.
Since this is a laptop, I suggest using NetworkManager, and have the connection to be used by other users. This results in earlier activation of the wifi.

Hi,

thanks to all for your kind replies, I’ll check your answers out and I’ll see what I am going able to achieve by myself!