Hello!
When I used Ubuntu 14.04 I had some issues configuring PPPoE, but I found the way by using pppoeconf command in terminal. See, I use Wi-Fi to get to the Wi-Fi access point (it’s NOT a Wi-Fi Internet, but a WIRED one). And from Wi-Fi access point (it’s technically Wi-Fi DSL router that’s being used as a switch/bridge) there’s RJ-45 PPPoE connection that goes out to the ISP. What was happening in Ubuntu is that first I established a wireless connection (WITHOUT any Internet yet!!!). Then I went to the terminal and used sudo pppoeconf command. That command was first checking eth0 and couldn’t find anything (since my PC wasn’t using Ethernet), then it was checking wlan0 and found PPPoE on it and Ubuntu proposed me to enter my ISP credentials and after that Internet connection was established. AGAIN (I know some ppl don’t get it), it’s NOT a Wi-Fi Internet (like McD’s hotspot kinda thing!), it’s a WIRED PPPoE (not a regular DSL PPPoATM or whatever it is). It’s just purely for convenience (my cat used to chew the cables) I used wireless link from my laptop to the Wi-Fi modem (DSL Gateway acting as a switch ONLY). And from that device there’s a RJ-45 cable to the ISP.
NOW… How would I do the same in OpenSUSE 13.2 KDE? Some people mention YaST and there to make a PPPoE DSL connection, some say since there’s no pppoeconf in SUSE then to use rp-pppoe, somce suggest to install pppoeconf from other distros…
I don’t have any real experience with managing a DSL connection outside a router environment, but I have a basic working knowledge of how pppoe works. I would start by using YaST/wicked to get a working wireless connection with a statically assigned IP addressing ‘0.0.0.0’
Using this page as a reference
https://www.informit.com/library/content.aspx?b=red_hat_linux7&seqNum=61
I would use ‘rp-pppoe’. Download the package, then use ‘ppppoe-setup’ to configure. When it asks you to enter an ethernet interface, enter your wirless device (eg wlan0), and continure answering as prompted.
Once that’s done, hopefully you can connect with ‘pppoe-connect’.
It should be possible to use NM to define a wireless connection in a similar fashion, then create a DSL connection after that.
Thank you! I’ll try that!!
Let us know how you get on. I went as far as ‘pretending’ to connect via my working wireless connection (after installing rp-pppoe and configuring), but I can’t actually test it.
Sorry to disappoint you guys, but I gave up and decided to go back to Ubuntu. It might not be a dream OS, but it does the job most of the time. In past couple of days I’ve had so many problems with OpenSUSE, I think I had less headaches with Ubuntu in about half a year that I’ve been using Ubuntu. Ubuntu never froze on me, NOT EVEN ONCE – believe it or not. I’ve had like a dozen of “green screen of death” already with SUSE. Moreover, silly KDE stuff like kwallet that doesn’t let my Wi-Fi connect. Now with this pppoe issue… In Ubuntu I used pppoeconf and had Internet up and running. Here in OpenSUSE it’s connected, but no Internet. Probably if I dedicate a week I would connect, but it’s not worth my time. If such a simple thing is so difficult in OpenSUSE, then what I’m gonna do when it’ll come to real stuff? Maybe OpenSUSE requires more expertise than what I have, who knows… Last, but not least – Ubuntu has a tenfold more tutorials, books etc. As per Yast… Unlike Windows’ control panel that really does help, YaST is more of a headache. Very unintuitive. I would rather go with Ubuntu CLI, I have no problem with CLI (used it in 1990 in DOS). I would prefer GUI if (BIG IF) it was easier, but opposite is the case.
Anyhow, it was nice being here and thanks for your help!!
Why did you leave ubuntu in the first place?
I thought that YaST is more convenient and Ubuntu doesn’t have something at par.
Okay ,no need for explanations. Use what works for you. 
The reality is connecting via PPPOE from a computer like you are is very uncommon these days. Most CPE routers are built to handle that job with ease. So, yes there would be some effort, but sometimes that’s the ways it is. I think you exaggerate the difficulty by giving up after a few hours after posting. Mind over matter as they say.
Yeah, you’re right – extremely uncommon. Just about 90% of Russia’s population use it (140 000 000 people). Safe to say that the rest of people in neighboring countries use it too (so we’re talking about at least 250 000 000 people). Peanuts. I’m unsure about the US, it’s been over a decade since I was living there…
Effort? What kind of effort? 5 minutes in Windows 7, 5 hours in Ubuntu and 5 days in OpenSUSE? It’s not a Catholic wedding between me and SUSE with all due respect! A few hours? You’re kidding? What a few hrs.? Spent 2 whole DAYS and got nowhere so far.
And if a computer professional with about 18 years of experience can’t figure out how simple tasks work in this OS, then it clearly shows that it’s more complicated than it should be. And why it freezes all the time? Reminds me of Windows 95/98. Why Windows 7 and Ubuntu 14.04 don’t? And that’s silly bug where you see the locked screen and you just move your mouse a little and it’s magically gone? What is it? Kindergarten? I’m 41 yo, not 5. Sorry. Didn’t come to play games here. Couldn’t get Wi-Fi connected because kwallet hadn’t got its password. Another bad joke.
I’m not trying to say here that OpenSUSE is a bad OS. Not at all! But it’s RAW, not ready yet. Not even in its beta state yet, I would say. Don’t know, maybe its commercial twin brother (or sister?) is more stable and polished. Who knows…
Spent 2 whole DAYS and got nowhere so far.
Rather than pointless ranting, you could have posted back explaining what you were having trouble with.
I’d still argue that most people connect to DSL services using a CPE router to manage the connection, and the main reason is being able to share the internet connection. We get a handful of users asking how to set up a DSL connection, and the majority do this via wired ethernet. Yes, it would be nice if the network manager could handle this via wireless, but in any case if you can get a wireless connection working first via YaST/wicked then rp-pppoe should be able to get your PPPOE session started.
Who said that I have DSL? It’s NOT a DSL connection, but an Ethernet PPPoE connection (if you know the difference). The fact that I’m using a DSL modem as a switch to bridge two networks has nothing to do with anything. How can you help me if you can’t even figure out what I’m talking about? In my modem its RJ-11 jack is empty, actually.
I got my Wi-Fi working after sometime. And I used rp-pppoe in the terminal and it was connected, but I didn’t get the Internet.
Again, I’m not trying to say that if my life’s goal was to use OpenSUSE, I’d never got it working – I probably would. But why would I do it the hard way, if I can do it the easy way in W7 and Ubuntu? But not only the Internet – also the other stuff I complained about.
I think it is you who doesn’t. I’m using a DSL connection right now, but it is my router that authenticates and controls the pppoe session.
The fact that I’m using a DSL modem as a switch to bridge two networks has nothing to do with anything. How can you help me if you can’t even figure out what I’m talking about?
I do understand. (I’m a network engineer for a wireless broadband company.)
In my modem its RJ-11 jack is empty, actually.
Yep, got that. You’re trying to connect over your wireless bridge.
I got my Wi-Fi working after sometime. And I used rp-pppoe in the terminal and it was connected, but I didn’t get the Internet.
That’s what needs further clarification. Saying you didn’t get internet, doesn’t tell us anything. We need to see IP addresses, routes, and name servers
ip addr
ip route
grep -i name /etc/resolv.conf
BTW, I’m assuming from your last comment that the pppoe session started without error? If not, capture the command used to connect and any output generated.
Again, I’m not trying to say that if my life’s goal was to use OpenSUSE, I’d never got it working – I probably would. But why would I do it the hard way, if I can do it the easy way in W7 and Ubuntu? But not only the Internet – also the other stuff I complained about.
Complaining is wasted energy. If you want help, you need to be patient and constructive. Nobody here started out with knowledge, they learnt it with experience.
With all respect - neither DSL implies PPPoE not PPPoE implies DSL. In this case most likely Internet provider is using PPPoE as a mean to authenticate users. It is common enough in Russia. Connection to provider is normal Ethernet then.
That said, from client point of view it is the same as using DSL in bridge mode indeed. Unfortunately wicked does not support PPPoE in 13.2 (and I think even in current development version) so I won’t be surprised if YaST DSL module had been removed.
Do you have link to prove this percentage?
No, PPPoE is a tunneling protocol that many DSL providers use. What makes this situation a little different is that the OP wants to set up via their wireless bridge, rather than wired ethernet. For sure NM does not provide for this. However rp-pppoe should be able to cope with a wireless interface.
In this case most likely Internet provider is using PPPoE as a mean to authenticate users. It is common enough in Russia. Connection to provider is normal Ethernet then.
Yes, but in this case the OP is hopinng for a turnkey solution. It’s not hard to establish a PPPoE connection once the wireless connection is established, but rp-pppoe (or equivalent) is required.
That said, from client point of view it is the same as using DSL in bridge mode indeed. Unfortunately wicked does not support PPPoE in 13.2 (and I think even in current development version) so I won’t be surprised if YaST DSL module had been removed.
None of that matters though. Once the wireless connection is established, the PPPoE should work over the top of that, even if it means using CLI tools.
“No” what? The fact that many DSL providers are using PPPoE does not mean PPPoE has anything to do with DSL at all.
Yes, but in this case the OP is hopinng for a turnkey solution.
“But” what? Why using Ethernet connection to provider makes turnkey solution using PPPoE something that user should not expect?
None of that matters though.
If you say so …
No one said it does. However, most routers can cope with establishing PPPoE very easily. Easier than trying to manage from a PC OMO. My specific experience is with Mikrotik routers, which can handle this easily, removing the need to do this from a PC.
“But” what? Why using Ethernet connection to provider makes turnkey solution using PPPoE something that user should not expect?
I don’t quite understand you, but if you’re asking why the NM should assume ethernet connection rather than via wireless bridge, I have no idea. You’d need to direct that question to the developers.
You guys are starting to argue between yourselves. It means that it’s not all that clear and simple. And WHY such a basic thing as connecting to the Internet should be that complicated? Why do I have to be an expert in Linux to get online, let me ask you?
I don’t have statistics for Russia, but, trust me, I live in the very common environment. Okay, even if it’s 50% and it’s 60 million people – would it make a difference here? My point was that my situation is pretty common in regards to the connection to the ISP. The uncommon part is to use wireless link as a bridge between two networks – usually people would use Ethernet cable that ISP provides by default.
My whole point here is that Ubuntu for a novice Linux user is more user friendly, that’s all. If someone like me COULD connect on Ubuntu and couldn’t on OpenSUSE. And I have better things to do in my life than rebooting 10 times when OpenSUSE freezes on me and to spend days to get Internet up and running!
P.S. My ISP does provide instructions how to get Internet working on Ubuntu (though on its older version). Nothing about OpenSUSE. And how many books and video tutorials about Ubuntu and how many about OpenSUSE. Access to information is also a crucial part in learning, not just forums, with all due respect.
In short, you got my point, I hope…
On Mon 15 Jun 2015 04:06:01 PM CDT, papakota wrote:
You guys are starting to argue between yourselves. It means that it’s
not all that clear and simple. And WHY such a basic thing as connecting
to the Internet should be that complicated? Why do I have to be an
expert in Linux to get online, let me ask you?
I don’t have statistics for Russia, but, trust me, I live in the very
common environment. Okay, even if it’s 50% and it’s 60 million people –
would it make a difference here? My point was that my situation is
pretty common in regards to the connection to the ISP. The uncommon part
is to use wireless link as a bridge between two networks – usually
people would use Ethernet cable that ISP provides by default.
My whole point here is that Ubuntu for a novice Linux user is more user
friendly, that’s all. If someone like me COULD connect on Ubuntu and
couldn’t on OpenSUSE. And I have better things to do in my life than
rebooting 10 times when OpenSUSE freezes on me and to spend days to get
Internet up and running!
P.S. My ISP does provide instructions how to get Internet working on
Ubuntu (though on its older version). Nothing about OpenSUSE. And how
many books and video tutorials about Ubuntu and how many about OpenSUSE.
Access to information is also a crucial part in learning, not just
forums, with all due respect.
In short, you got my point, I hope…
Hi
Ok, everyone take a chill pill… 
If your still wanting help, probably a new thread is in order since it’s
drifted enough…
I’m guessing in Ubuntu your using KDE or GNOME? If your still wanting
to try openSUSE, give the GNOME shell a whirl to see if you can
configure with pppoe with it’s NM. But like I say, best to start a new
thread… thanks
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