I’ve recently installed OpenSuSE 11.1 on my machine here, and am trying
to get desktop effects working. When I go to enable them, I get the
warning that my current hardware / configuration does not support desktop
effects, which is odd because I tried them out with the live CD before
installing, and they worked fine there.
If I “yes” past the warning and actually enable desktop effects, they
seem to work, except that I lose the window title bars.
I’m using the Gnome desktop. The motherboard’s on-board video card is
based on the Intel 865G chip.
Sounds like one of the many problems with recent Intel drivers. There’s a lot of discussion of this on the Ubuntu forums, some of the suggestions there include changing the acceleration method (Option “AccelMethod” in xorg.conf). Might be worth a quick google.
Don’t bother enabling 3d-effects. All that does is cause system instability on 11.1 when using the default kernel. You could try installing kernel 2.6.30 and then enable 3d-effects.
So this is a desktop correct?
If it were me, I would just buy myself a nvidia card.
I have an intel chip on my laptop and it’s a dream. Sorry I can’t offer more.
On Mon, 18 May 2009 12:26:01 +0000, davidgurvich wrote:
> Don’t bother enabling 3d-effects.
Um, yeah. Thanks.
> All that does is cause system
> instability on 11.1 when using the default kernel. You could try
> installing kernel 2.6.30 and then enable 3d-effects.
I’m on Kernel 2.6.27.21-0.1-pae right now. Is 2.6.30 out for Suse yet?
I’ve just moved from 11.0 to 11.1 and found that Xorg will kill the keyboard and/or hard lock when the intel driver is used. For now, I’m using the vesa driver. I’ve tested the 2.6.29 kernel and the same issue happens. As I had disabled desktop effects and dri to have a working xorg in 11.0, I’ve not noticed any slowdowns using vesa.
I’d tend to agree, it’s fun to have enabled for a day or two, then the novelty wears off, and when you start having video playback issues, you’ll go back in and disable them anyways. I’m on a brand new dual-core laptop and I just don’t think that the hardware is there yet to keep something like that enabled without a performance drop. I’m on the 2.6.27.21-0.1-default x86_64 kernel. Is there a lot of improvements planned in the 2.6.30 kernel for 3d desktop effects? Maybe I’ll try again then, too.
You can’t tar all hardware under the same brush last time I looked intel aren’t really known for graphic cards. You’ll find many ATI and Nvidia users who have no problem at all. I’ve been using 3d desktops for a long time and have no problems at all on an old FX5200 256
I’ve got an ATI video chipset (HD 3200) with the Catalyst 9.5 drivers installed. It may be a lack of knowledge on my end or driver limitation, is there another alternative? When I enabled desktop effects and tried to play back video, it would be choppy/unwatchable. Also interfered with things like VMware client OS/s.
I personally had issues with ATI but even in the old days I did manage it.
If you want my Opinion I don’t recommend ATI either but I do know there is a few about that have had no problems. ATI seems to be a hit or a miss and no inbetween…(Also seems the older ones worked better)
I’ll still recommend nvidia but as the Arch forum some have no problems at all. Many times people will go for the latest and newest even though it is working fine with no ability to change back. Reading through bits and to be fair the same regardless of type of hardware, support for the latest and the newest is the slowest. People frequently try to fit hardware to software simple don’t fit software to hardware it may not be the latest and the greatest but 9/10 times it’ll work.
Until hardware manufacturers are hit in the pocket by linux users second class citizens we will be. It’s been the same for years and I don’t see it changing in the near future.
I actually have had this happen (missing titlebar) on my desktop with an nVidia video card while my (Intel) laptop hasn’t had any issues. Both with the same version of Ubuntu.
On Thu, 21 May 2009 13:16:02 +0000, nullvalue wrote:
> davidgurvich;1987588 Wrote:
>> Don’t bother enabling 3d-effects. All that does is cause system
>> instability on 11.1 when using the default kernel. You could try
>> installing kernel 2.6.30 and then enable 3d-effects.
>
> I’d tend to agree, it’s fun to have enabled for a day or two, then the
> novelty wears off, and when you start having video playback issues,
I wasn’t looking for opinions as to whether I want desktop effects
enabled or not. I’m looking for help with getting it turned on and
working. I’ll decide for myself if I want it or not.
FWIW I have it working on my laptop, with no video playback issues, or
stability problems. But that’s with the Intel GM45 chipset, not the Intel
865G I have in my desktop.
I had problems with compiz on my laptop which has an Intel 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller (rev 03) and I read that there are issues with the 915/945 Intel cards. I might have done something wrong and I’m willing to try it again. Does anybody have it working?
At this point I’m just pleased that Xorg isn’t hard locking and there is decent EXA acceleration with only a few artifacts. Currently using the default xorg.conf with kernel 2.6.30 and xorg server 1.6.1 from Factory. Still haven’t found an xorg.conf that will allow Desktop Effects.
In fact, I would be pleased with a lower frame rate and fewer artifacts with no Desktop Effects. Looks like the intel driver is going to be very troublesome for many older laptops. I was told that Intel does not have any way to test the driver on i830 and I assume other older chipsets.
> I had problems with compiz on my laptop which has an Intel
> 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller (rev 03)
You might try starting a new thread with the details of your system and
what problems you’re having. Adding something with the 915G stuff here to
my thread, specifically about the 865G, isn’t likely to get you any help.
On Tue, 26 May 2009 01:46:01 +0000, davidgurvich wrote:
> At this point I’m just pleased that Xorg isn’t hard locking and there is
> decent EXA acceleration with only a few artifacts. Currently using the
> default xorg.conf with kernel 2.6.30 and xorg server 1.6.1 from Factory.
> Still haven’t found an xorg.conf that will allow Desktop Effects.
What video chipset are you testing this with?
> In fact, I would be pleased with a lower frame rate and fewer artifacts
> with no Desktop Effects. Looks like the intel driver is going to be
> very troublesome for many older laptops.
Who mentioned laptops? I’m using a desktop machine here. And specifically
getting Desktop Effects working with it.
> I was told that Intel does not
> have any way to test the driver on i830 and I assume other older
> chipsets.
Intel can’t set up a Linux machine with their one of their own video
chipsets for testing?