This has been my pleasure to install openSUSE 11.4 on my new box. I am impressed with its look. But some newbie questions haunt my mind, I must take the nicest experiences people here are having and I hope they would definitely guide me along the way.
As a good point of knowledge, I have to prepare a report for the following issuse:
openSUSE vs Debain Linux
=> in all respects like Security, Long Term Use (which is better), Easiness (but not losing any feature), Better Structure, Better (way of doing things) etc…etc…
I am a newbie, perhaps if someone point me in elaborated description, I would be thankful to.
It’s all Linux so there’s no vast differences, only in relatively minor points like application management. Debian provides the base for Ubuntu, and you are more likely to find comparisons between openSUSE and Ubuntu as both are more “cutting edge” and “consumer orientated” than Debian which tends to produce new releases much more rarely.
But why not simply partition your hard disk and install Debian alongside openSUSE, dual-booting between them? Or install Virtualbox and try out Debian in a VM? You’ll probably prefer openSUSE in the end
opmx wrote:
> Report in the sense that I should be know to the fact required. So, as a
> point of knowledge, this is what a ‘desire’ to know. So need
> suggestions.
What have you done so far to answer your question yourself?
For example have you googled for comparisons? I see a lot of hits.
opmx wrote:
> I don’t know the difference between the two - Legacy Grub or Grub 2 what
> these are?
You’re coming awfully close to trolling, or perhaps being a chatbot.
Just answering with more questions. Please give us answers to the
questions I asked.
Am 24.11.2011 18:06, schrieb opmx:
>
>> Please give us answers to the questions I asked.
>
> And you can first elaborate my questions?
>
> Yes, I Googled but that didn’t help much.
>
>
You seem to have a strange google, when I google http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_GRUB
is one of the first hits and describes both versions, at least a
starting point for further investigations to start with wikipedia
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> This has been my pleasure to install openSUSE 11.4 on my new box. I am
> impressed with its look. But some newbie questions haunt my mind, I must
> take the nicest experiences people here are having and I hope they would
> definitely guide me along the way.
>
> As a good point of knowledge, I have to prepare a report for the
> following issuse:
>
> openSUSE vs Debain Linux
>
> => in all respects like Security, Long Term Use (which is better),
> Easiness (but not losing any feature), Better Structure, Better (way of
> doing things) etc…etc…
>
> I am a newbie, perhaps if someone point me in elaborated description, I
> would be thankful to.
Welcome to the forums - it’s good to see you took my advice from the
mailing list and came to visit us here.
As I explained to you on the mailing list, in the forums we do expect
that you’ll do your “homework”, just as they do on the mailing list.
Asking such a broad and general question doesn’t lead to anything any
more specific than questions like “explain encryption to me”.
You will get far better answers if you ask specific questions. On the
mailing list, I referred you to Eric Raymond’s excellent guide on “how to
ask questions the smart way”, and again, I’m going to recommend you read
that and understand it so you understand how to ask questions that will
get you useful answers.
Again, in case you’ve mislaid the URL I sent you from the mailing lists,
the link to esr’s essay is:
On 11/25/2011 03:26 PM, opmx wrote:
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> just wanted to know which is better: Debian or openSUSE for long run, that’s all.
what do you mean by “better”?
-better looks? more winkie-blinkies? more transparent panels?
-better security tools default installed?
-better opening/closing speed?
-better distant administrative tools?
-better selection of desktop environments?
-better software management tools included?
-better useful life time?
-better selection of derivative distributions?
-better commercial/enterprise versions?
-better scaling on supercomputers?
-better use of electricity (power savings)?
-better useful lifetime?
-better security update support?
-etc etc etc etc
and, what do you mean by “for long run”?
-expected life time?
-advertised end of support date?
-how long one can expect to be able to run with rebooting?
-number of nines one could expect in a year of running 24x7?
please define both and then reformulate you specific question–along
with your intended use of either system (like: supercomputer lab
crunching fluid dynamics in nuclear explosions or commercial web site
host or embedded, ROM industrial production control device or
embedded in mobile phone, music playing apparatus, refrigerator, TV,
other household appliance or home file/music/entertainment server or personal desktop or personal laptop or personal tablet or
personal netbook or etc etc etc etc)
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DD
openSUSE®, the “German Engineered Automobiles” of operating systems!
It has been my experience that when a person asks “which is best (without elaboration)”, then the “right” answer for that person is going to be easy.
I think I would have just said:
“Why, yes. SUSE is what you need!”
“And, it is the best long system you can use!”
It’s far more important to just dive in with a distro, than spend time with questions like this.
I know that the OP should understand what he is asking, and that info was provided, but in the end, he will be incapable of putting the knowledge to use.
Linux distros are like motorcycles: One thing is certain, your first motorcycle is unlikely to be your last.
> Ah well, I read that, but it is too long, just wanted to know which is
> better: Debian or openSUSE for long run, that’s all.
Well, if you read it, you should understand that “better” is in the eye
of the beholder. That’s not a “specific” question. “Better” in what
way? “Better” for what use case? What is it you intend to use it for?
But it also strikes me that asking which is better on one or the other
distribution’s communities is kinda like going to a Ford dealership and
asking “which is better, a Ford or a BMW?” - what sort of answer would
you expect in that situation?
You need to ask some specific questions, as I said.
It’s all Linux so there’s no vast differences, only in relatively minor points like application management. Debian provides the base for Ubuntu, and you are more likely to find comparisons between openSUSE and Ubuntu as both are more “cutting edge” and “consumer orientated” than Debian which tends to produce new releases much more rarely.
But why not simply partition your hard disk and install Debian alongside openSUSE, dual-booting between them? Or install Virtualbox and try out Debian in a VM? You’ll probably prefer openSUSE in the end
I’ll only ask you to have the /home common for them both and modify the last line as ‘You’ll probably like both openSUSE and Debian’. I do so.
