Time goes by, and soon we will see new 11.2. That is good, especially because things are getting better. Better for entertainment, better for automatic management, better for new hardware…
But I would like to hear an advice, may be suggestion regarding my position.
I do not use KDE, nor GNOME, I use XFCE. Do not use Mozilla Firefox, only Opera.
I do not use NetworkManager for configure networks, I prefer to load deriver by “modprobe”. Never tried Compize, I use compositing from xfce. I use programs from KDE and GNOME.
So, the question is why to change everything, why to start adjusting everything again. I don’t see any reason why. How long Opensuse will support 11.1?
11.1 works very good for me. Very stable.
So. I seriously need some advice.
I have another hard drive, I can do clean install, but I do not see any reason.
There is no need to update to 11.2. 11.1 should be supported until a couple of months after 11.3 (supported until Oct-2010 approximately).
If you wanted to to check out 11.2 you could try a liveCD of Gnome or KDE and boot that to get a flavour as to how it looks.
While on 11.1 you could also keep an eye on what liveCDs are released, such as a link such as this: Live CD - openSUSE … I note there was an xfce liveCD for 11.0 (but not for 11.1) but its possible someone will package an xfce liveCD for 11.2.
If you are curious about 11.2’s features, I posted what little I could learn here: openSUSE Forums - some 11.2 features Note xfce is still a desktop option for 11.2.
If 11.1 works for you & does what you want, stick with it.
My view, you replace <something> with <something> newer if it’s going to do a better job. Applies equally to OS releases, unless of course you’re just curious to see & learn what’s new.
Caveat: this from someone who still buys music on vinyl where possible
That makes no sense. XFCE doesn’t do compositing. So if you have 3D effects, you do use Compiz (or maybe Metacity which is supoosed to have some modest compositing?) as you’re not using Kwin. And if you’re using lots of Gnome and KDE applications, you’ve probably installed most Gnome/KDE dependencies already anyway. Might as well get the desktops too
> That makes no sense. XFCE doesn’t do compositing. So if you have 3D
> effects, you do use Compiz (or maybe Metacity which is supoosed to have
> some modest compositing?) as you’re not using Kwin. And if you’re using
> lots of Gnome and KDE applications, you’ve probably installed most
> Gnome/KDE dependencies already anyway. Might as well get the desktops
> too
Not true, as xfwm4 has had compositing for several years now (since
2004, according to the changelog).
Compositing isn’t wobbly windows and other shiny things, it just makes
them possible. xfwm4’s compositor does window transparency and drop
shadows, not 3D effects.
Thanks for replaying, xfce has compositing and it is pretty good (transparency and shadows), and to be honest, I don’t really need anything else.
I keep full KDE and GNOME environments, in case if something will go wrong, but I disable most of their services.
Seriously, if 11.1 works for you that’s fine. 11.2 is a choice matter 11.1 has 2 years of support.
11.2 boots faster ext4 as I understand it will make some things more efficient & fsck faster some more hardware recognition, that’s all I can think of as real reasons. Some of us just like to have the self perception that “we got the Latest Stuff!!>:)”
If you’re not this type don’t let us sweep you away.
To thine own self be true.
He maybe referring to the xfce compositor which is capable of display compositing. It’s a nice xfce feature.
To the OP I am an xfce user too, though sometimes I login to kde.
On Sun, 2009-11-08 at 20:36 +0000, nimnull22 wrote:
> Hi.
>
> Time goes by, and soon we will see new 11.2. That is good, especially
> because things are getting better. Better for entertainment, better for
> automatic management, better for new hardware…
>
> But I would like to hear an advice, may be suggestion regarding my
> position.
> I do not use KDE, nor GNOME, I use XFCE. Do not use Mozilla Firefox,
> only Opera.
> I do not use NetworkManager for configure networks, I prefer to load
> deriver by “modprobe”. Never tried Compize, I use compositing from xfce.
> I use programs from KDE and GNOME.
>
> So, the question is why to change everything, why to start adjusting
> everything again. I don’t see any reason why. How long Opensuse will
> support 11.1?
> 11.1 works very good for me. Very stable.
openSUSE has a limited lifetime… but certainly you can use 11.1
even after support for it dies…
>
> So. I seriously need some advice.
> I have another hard drive, I can do clean install, but I do not see any
> reason.
>
> Thanks in advance.
You WILL have to change at some point (if you want easy patching),
however, you CAN successfully
skip a whole version. So you could wait until 11.3. Both 11.1
and 11.2 are “volatile” IMHO… that is, I disagree with your
“stable” remark. 11.1 have us broken KDE4 (for example).
Enough stuff is in flux to where 11.2 should cause some
headaches. There are days you wish everything would just stop
and mature a bit. Too many things to do… so little time.
Ok. I really wanted to close that tread, but this force me to write again.
I am very disappointed and dismal that OpenSuse is trying to be desktop ORIENTED! That is very bad idea. My opinion, that we have to avoid turn it to any particular desktops.
So, when you said “I disagree with your “stable” remark. 11.1 have us broken KDE4 (for example)” - I would like replay whet I hate KDE desktop, never have used it, and what is why my OpenSuse is STABLE.
And please do not connect OpenSuse with KDE. KDE one of the available desktops.
