I must be dense. Is q4wine not set up correctly? It still doesn’t open any of the icons on the default system entries. That’s what I was trying to figure out. So I won’t try to figure out the exec string in the logging, but why doesn’t any of the programs work? Like winecfg, wineconsole, explorer…etc. How can I find out why?
Think of a flatpak as being like a zip file. It has its own internal “filesystem” structure that has nothing to do with the filesystem on your system.
If you run the command sfalken or carlggest suggested, that runs the command inside the Flatpak’s filesystem. You can’t use WINE commands that are not installed in the flatpak with the flatpak version - you have to use the ones that are in the flatpak itself using a command like the ones suggested.
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I was only trying to figure out the problem. So I will stop trying to do that on my own, and ask how to get q4wine to work? To open the winecfg, for instance? It is one of the icons under “system” in q4wine. And doesn’t work. None of the icons work. Did someone not make q4wine properly for flatpak?
Works fine here.
All I did was install the q4wine flatpak, accept the defaults in the wizard, and then doubleclick on the winecfg icon
So you only chose q4wine and not wine in addition? I did that and when it didn’t work, I added wine from flatpak. But that was after I had added it from myrlyn. Should I uninstall everything and try again or will that make a difference?
I don’t really use wine, so I have no idea, given q4wine is roughly 500MB of software, and it’s allowing me to do things like run minesweeper and notepad, it’s obviously creating a wineprefix of some sort.
But I’m not even remotely any kind of authority on wine, or how it works
Yes, you’re trying to mix RPM-based WINE with a flatpak of q4wine. Don’t do that; remove both, and then pick one package format for anything WINE-related and use that.
You can’t mix q4wine from flatpak with wine from RPM. It won’t work, as you’ve seen.
I uninstalled both q4wine and wine in flatpak, and also uninstalled wine in the Myrlyn system. I then reinstalled q4wine in flatpak using Discover. After 30 minutes, it finished and I get the same thing: Exit code -1.
As far as mixing things, this is what I did to start with and when it didn’t work, I then added wine from Myrlyn. So I didn’t do that this time. What do I do next?
@dt30 just uninstalling may leave other supporting packages present… Did you install the flatpaks as your user or system?
What does the output from flatpak list show?
I’m assuming @sfalken installed as a user?
I installed it as my user using Discover.
> flatpak list
Name Application ID Version Branch Installation
Flatseal com.github.tchx84.Flatseal 2.4.0 stable system
i386 ….freedesktop.Platform.Compat.i386 25.08 system
Mesa …g.freedesktop.Platform.GL.default 25.3.3 25.08 system
Mesa (Extra) …g.freedesktop.Platform.GL.default 25.3.3 25.08-extra system
Mesa …freedesktop.Platform.GL32.default 25.3.3 25.08 system
Mesa (Extra) …freedesktop.Platform.GL32.default 25.3.3 25.08-extra system
Codecs Extra Extension …freedesktop.Platform.codecs-extra 25.08-extra system
i386 …esktop.Platform.codecs_extra.i386 25.08-extra system
GNOME Application Platfor… org.gnome.Platform 49 system
KDE Application Platform org.kde.Platform 5.15-25.08 system
KDE Application Platform org.kde.Platform 6.10 system
DB Browser for SQLite org.sqlitebrowser.sqlitebrowser 3.13.1 stable system
gecko org.winehq.Wine.gecko stable-25.08 system
mono org.winehq.Wine.mono stable-25.08 system
q4wine ua.org.brezblock.q4wine 1.4.1 stable system
Oh, I see “Extra” in there.
@dt30 Installed as “system” not “user”… I only use user install level.
Wine on Leap 16.0 is only 64bit, no 32bit support (see Release Notes)
https://doc.opensuse.org/release-notes/x86_64/openSUSE/Leap/16.0/html/release-notes-leap-160/index.html#id-wine
For 32bit (which I see there) for the likes of steam requires some additional packages and boot options (again in the Release Notes).
https://doc.opensuse.org/release-notes/x86_64/openSUSE/Leap/16.0/html/release-notes-leap-160/index.html#id-steam
So I do wonder if above is needed, I do have the boot option added here, I use flatpak Bottles rather that wine… all installed as user, not system.
For comparison on Leap 16.0 I have;
flatpak list
Name Application ID Version Branch Installation
Flatseal com.github.tchx84.Flatseal 2.4.0 stable user
Google Chrome com.google.Chrome 144.0.7559.132-1 stable user
Bottles com.usebottles.bottles 61.1 stable user
Freedesktop Platform org.freedesktop.Platform freedesktop-sdk-25.08.7 25.08 user
i386 org.freedesktop.Platform.Compat.i386 25.08 user
Mesa org.freedesktop.Platform.GL.default 25.3.3 24.08 user
Mesa (Extra) org.freedesktop.Platform.GL.default 25.3.3 24.08extra user
Mesa org.freedesktop.Platform.GL.default 25.3.3 25.08 user
Mesa (Extra) org.freedesktop.Platform.GL.default 25.3.3 25.08-extra user
nvidia-580-126-09 org.freedesktop.Platform.GL.nvidia-580-126-09 1.4 user
Mesa org.freedesktop.Platform.GL32.default 25.3.3 25.08 user
Mesa (Extra) org.freedesktop.Platform.GL32.default 25.3.3 25.08-extra user
nvidia-580-126-09 org.freedesktop.Platform.GL32.nvidia-580-126-09 1.4 user
Intel VAAPI driver org.freedesktop.Platform.VAAPI.Intel 24.08 user
Intel VAAPI driver org.freedesktop.Platform.VAAPI.Intel 25.08 user
i386 org.freedesktop.Platform.VAAPI.Intel.i386 25.08 user
Nvidia VAAPI driver org.freedesktop.Platform.VAAPI.nvidia 25.08 user
i386 org.freedesktop.Platform.VAAPI.nvidia.i386 25.08 user
Codecs Extra Extension org.freedesktop.Platform.codecs-extra 25.08-extra user
i386 org.freedesktop.Platform.codecs_extra.i386 25.08-extra user
openh264 org.freedesktop.Platform.openh264 2.5.1 2.5.1 user
GNOME Application Platform version 49 org.gnome.Platform 49 user
Adwaita theme org.kde.KStyle.Adwaita 5.15-24.08 user
KDE Application Platform org.kde.Platform 5.15-24.08 user
QGnomePlatform org.kde.PlatformTheme.QGnomePlatform 5.15-24.08 user
QAdwaitaDecorations org.kde.WaylandDecoration.QAdwaitaDecorations 5.15-24.08 user
VLC org.videolan.VLC 3.0.23 stable user
Wine org.winehq.Wine 11.0 stable-25.08 user
gecko org.winehq.Wine.gecko stable-25.08 user
mono org.winehq.Wine.mono stable-25.08 user
@ecsos the user is AFAIK on a slow internet connection.
You do realize that for Leap 16.0 doesn’t support 32bit wine applications, users need to use flatpak.
Likewise, if you have nothing to add to the users issue, I would suggest you refrain from commenting further.
If the user has a slow internet connection, that’s even more reason not to use Flatpak!
Giving up on 32-bit, especially for Wine, was an absolute mistake.
But there is a user who has revived Steam via package management.
Perhaps the repo could then also be used for q4wine or expanded?
https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/games:/tools:/steam/16.0
Incidentally, q4wine can be built for leap 16.
You don’t need wine for this. Only for installation. And it’s available at openSUSE:Backports:SLE-16.0
Built here:
home:ecsos:q4wine
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yes, all my flatpaks are installed --user
I did the default. I do see the list saying system. So how does one install it as “user”? I never trusted Discover, and less so now. But it seems to be the direction things are going. If there’s some specific way users should install things as “user”, I never came across anything and would think many would be doing the same default as I.
Yes, I read and knew that. I’m not sure why you are telling me that here. Must be implying that I installed it as 32bit?
I just needed to run a few windows programs. Wine and q4wine was the only thing I came across initially and q4wine made it work good for me. I had seen but do not know about Bottles, and a few others. I have found it hard to “discover” about new things.
So you are not using “Discover”, but manually typing it in a terminal?
Originally I saw it, at least I though I did, in the standard repositories. Then it was gone. When I was trying to install q4wine, the software.opensuse.org was down, so looked in Discover. And later, when it was back up I had seen it in your’s and Emulator. What would be the decision to choose one over the other?
No, I installed through discover. I just happen to be using Kalpa, which is set up to do that by default.
It’s not really germane to your problem which version of the OS I’m running, as in most ways, it’s identical to Tumbleweed, when it comes to software, so I don’t want to confuse you even further.
I’m not a Plasma user, so hopefully another Plasma user can advise, but I would suggest a clean up (as in delete) all the system ones, not sure about FlatSeal, I think that is integrated into Discover (<- @sfalken ?)
I would use the command line if Discover doesn’t offer the user install(?)