Yesterday, sunday, i had nothing better to do then to make my system a
dual boot system.
Not a big deal really.
I had already all partitions ready on the Linux side but upon booting in
Windows it reminded me that Windows is very selfish.
All the partitions from Linux were not there and it claimed everything
as ‘free’ space. Ola.
So after long debate i decided to structure my drive anew and gave
Windows the first spot. The install went smooth but after 5 hours of ‘an
urgent update’ session i felt i was getting tired. Ok, its Windows XP
which itself is outdated already.
Of course i have my Admin account and my regular account on Windows. We
want to be as much safe as we can be.
On Windows i installed my favorite programs like Gimp, Wireshark,
Mozilla etc… After that all done i started to install Linux. What a chance.
I got Linux done in about two hours with all the updates there and
installing additional libs and stuff.
After all that, done and ready, i wanted to preserve whatever i have
done and i used Clonezilla. Such a useful tool. (proof of the truth that
linux is just everywhere)
So i made an exact copy of all the partitions so if anything would break
i could just roll it back and don’t have (like in Windows) to install
everything for hours again.
The process was straigth forward and simple and took overall 45 minutes.
Now i have my dual boot system and feel ok, although its a rough ride if
you deal with Windows.
Codecs are quite non existent and so i downloaded me VLC on it. Does the
job for movies.
On thing i find ironic is, that firefox fonts looks quite bad on Windows
unlike on Linux. My guess is since Mozilla relays on the rendering from
the OS that there is no support on Windows. On Linux it looks just
straight good.
I like to torturer myself sometimes and my sunday was a hood.
In many respects i think that Linux is now better as a desktop and more
flexible. Sadly there are some stuff where you may need Windows still.
Btw. does Windows 7 have codecs?
Now everyone can fall over me and ridicule me
Have a nice day
Euer Komputerfriek Joerg
using LXDE on 11.4 x64 and happy with a cup of real hot coffee… http://mzl.la/o4n9Yw
Falling over you, ridiculing you because you think you still need Windows: :D. On your own request. I helped someone out with a dual boot last week (hours to get Win7 + updates on a 100 Mbits/sec internet connection), today he phoned me how to get rid of Win7 (which only to a couple of secs).
On 08/29/2011 09:16 PM, Knurpht wrote:
>
> Falling over you, ridiculing you because you think you still need
> Windows: :D. On your own request.
heh, when i read it it reminded me that my new little netbook came with
Win7 installed…and, as i installed openSUSE 11.4 i decided to keep it, just in case i needed it…like maybe (i didn’t know) i wouldn’t be
able to get to the internet and i would have to use Win7 to ask you guys
what to do…
but, in fact (i was lucky) everything worked and i never actually had
to boot Win again…i think i did boot it once, to see if it would…
and, now i realize that the trialware AV has passed its end of life and
they want like 60 bucks a year for it…nope…NO way…
i can’t imagine ever needing it again! so . . .
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DD
openSUSE®, the “German Engineered Automobile” of operating systems!
Meanwhile there must be dozens of laptops around that are “missing” about 10GB of diskspace, where I left the hidden recovery partition intact, just in case the owner wanted Win instead of openSUSE (or Mint).
On Mon, 29 Aug 2011 19:32:17 +0000, DenverD wrote:
> but, in fact (i was lucky) everything worked and i never actually had
> to boot Win again…i think i did boot it once, to see if it would…
Last time I had to boot Windows natively (Vista, which is actually still
installed on a partition on this desktop) was because of the Blackberry
desktop software - never could get the Linux apps for Blackberry to do
much for me. And firmware updates were just impossible without Windows -
and native Windows at that, because for some reason the device would
disconnect from a VMware virtual machine.
I have since switched to an Android device and never looked back.
On 8/29/2011 12:16 PM, Knurpht wrote:
>
> Falling over you, ridiculing you because you think you still need
> Windows: :D. On your own request. I helped someone out with a dual boot
> last week (hours to get Win7 + updates on a 100 Mbits/sec internet
> connection), today he phoned me how to get rid of Win7 (which only to a
> couple of secs).
>
>
Wow… i actually thought that 7 had lesser updates… for XP there were
like over a 100 updates.
For myself i feel ok at all desktops. But i think that Linux is superior
(i base that without any knowledge of 7).
The good news is, that there are tons of free gpl software one can run
on windows. I even have my stunnel.
For some reason i would expect that for a pay system you would get
codecs, but i was dreaming. Is that on a Mac better? (i am merely curious)
But the most important lesson i have is to use Clonezilla. And this
proofed to me that Linux is really everywhere. So many tools that run on
Linux one need to look hard to find something windows based.
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Euer Komputerfriek Joerg
using LXDE on 11.4 x64 and happy with a cup of real hot coffee… http://mzl.la/o4n9Yw
On 8/29/2011 12:55 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Aug 2011 19:32:17 +0000, DenverD wrote:
>
>> but, in fact (i was lucky) everything worked and i never actually had
>> to boot Win again…i think i did boot it once, to see if it would…
>
> Last time I had to boot Windows natively (Vista, which is actually still
> installed on a partition on this desktop) was because of the Blackberry
> desktop software - never could get the Linux apps for Blackberry to do
> much for me. And firmware updates were just impossible without Windows -
> and native Windows at that, because for some reason the device would
> disconnect from a VMware virtual machine.
>
> I have since switched to an Android device and never looked back.
>
> Jim
Mm… just on a note. The brother driver for Windows does contain many
more option than the Linux driver.
Its from the same company and this makes me wonder if Linux users are
not that important. I know you can alter drivers under Linux (i did it
once) but it would be nice if you could have the same option as on Windows.
I don’t use a Blackberry (so co-operate), but happened to my Samsung
too. Although via Bluetooth it worked kinda.
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Euer Komputerfriek Joerg
using LXDE on 11.4 x64 and happy with a cup of real hot coffee… http://mzl.la/o4n9Yw
On 08/29/2011 09:56 PM, Knurpht wrote:
> Meanwhile there must be dozens of laptops around that are “missing”
> about 10GB of diskspace, where I left the hidden recovery partition
> intact, just in case the owner wanted Win instead of openSUSE (or Mint).
yep, i have the full (“Starter” version) Win7 and the hidden recovery
partition…which reminds me: strangely (to me) the openSUSE installer
built a grub which offered both as a boot option (Windows 1 and Windows
2—oh! now i remember why i booted Win again, i booted Windows 1 to
make sure which was which, before i blew away Windows 2 in grub!))
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DD
openSUSE®, the “German Engineered Automobile” of operating systems!
On 8/30/2011 3:26 AM, DenverD wrote:
> On 08/29/2011 09:56 PM, Knurpht wrote:
>> Meanwhile there must be dozens of laptops around that are “missing”
>> about 10GB of diskspace, where I left the hidden recovery partition
>> intact, just in case the owner wanted Win instead of openSUSE (or Mint).
>
> yep, i have the full (“Starter” version) Win7 and the hidden recovery
> partition…which reminds me: strangely (to me) the openSUSE installer
> built a grub which offered both as a boot option (Windows 1 and Windows
> 2—oh! now i remember why i booted Win again, i booted Windows 1 to
> make sure which was which, before i blew away Windows 2 in grub!))
>
I might still ‘upgrade’ at one point to this 7, but i am not paying that
much money i see like on amazon.
Even considered that Windows itself is kind of security net of swiss
cheese ( i like swiss cheese), at least i was able to bring it to a
better security level.
Still, my openSUSE is the main system i always will cherish. Maybe i run
it again with KDE at one point.
Btw . whats a starter version?
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Euer Komputerfriek Joerg
using LXDE on 11.4 x64 and happy with a cup of real hot coffee… http://mzl.la/o4n9Yw
On 08/31/2011 12:48 AM, JoergJaeger wrote:
> Btw . whats a starter version?
i don’t know…i can only guess it is something less complete than their
more expensive Home version (which is less complete than their much more
expensive “Pro” version, etc)
i didn’t use it long, but remember it had an IE browser that was all i
used…wait, i remember now i had to install a DVD burning
program…but, i don’t remember which…something free or trial (oh, i
think it was a limited version of Nero, maybe could burn five disks or
something like that)…i burned one DVD (11.4) and two CDs (11.4 KDE
Live, and parted magic)…
it was loaded down with crapware…like an AV program which had a three
month “free” life…and, an icon to click to load MS Office
trialware…and some other stuff i didn’t want to buy…
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DD
openSUSE®, the “German Engineered Automobile” of operating systems!
Download the full version and You’re good to go with any multimedia on Windows. It also installs a very nice media player called Media Player Classic which is my second favorite media player.
The codec pack should remove any unneeded codecs or fix some broken installations. It has a special tool for that which is also installed.
Of course You can install the basic or standard version of k-lite codec pack and You’ll most likely be able to play any multimedia You want but just in case I usually install the full version.
On 09/07/2011 09:46 AM, glistwan wrote:
>> Btw . whats a starter version?
> In short useless piece of ****
> - no Aero
> - 32 bit only
> - wallpaper changes restricted
> - 3 simultaneous running applications (though the Wiki says that this
> one was dropped)
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_7_editions
heh, i didn’t notice!
-don’t know what “Aero” is, and do not care
-i installed 32 bit openSUSE (on a 64 bit machine) so ?
-wallpaper could be toilet paper for all i care, i look at what is in
the apps, not what is on the wall…
-as i remember i only ran two things the whole time: IE to download one
each, openSUSE CD and DVD iso…and fetched a disk burning app (trial
version of Nero, if i recall correctly)…burned two disks and put Win7
Starter to sleep, forever.
it is sad sad sad compared to what i have now! i really do feel sorry
for those who are trapped into using it because of
work/school/government use/etc!
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DD
openSUSE®, the “German Automobiles” of operating systems
On 9/7/2011 12:36 AM, glistwan wrote:
> ‘Free-Codecs.com : Download K-Lite Codec Pack 7.7.0 FULL, K-Lite Codec
> Pack 7.7.0 STANDARD, K-Lite Codec Pack 7.7.0 BASIC : K-Lite Codec Pack
> is a collection of codecs and related tools’
> (http://www.free-codecs.com/k_lite_codec_pack_download.htm)
>
> Download the full version and You’re good to go with any multimedia on
> Windows. It also installs a very nice media player called Media Player
> Classic which is my second favorite media player.
> The codec pack should remove any unneeded codecs or fix some broken
> installations. It has a special tool for that which is also installed.
>
> Of course You can install the basic or standard version of k-lite codec
> pack and You’ll most likely be able to play any multimedia You want but
> just in case I usually install the full version.
>
> Best regards,
> Greg
>
>
So far i had installed VLC and it does everything i need. But i will try
these codecs as well. After 2 years without Windows, its like a new
world. Isn’t it strange.
I think regarding Windows 7 i might go with the pro since it has more
features i am looking into. Starter looks like a teaser to me.
Thanks for the info.
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Euer Komputerfriek Joerg
using LXDE on 11.4 x64 and happy with a cup of real hot coffee… http://mzl.la/o4n9Yw
Hi
I re-installed XP home on the netbook (Our Son won an ipod 6th gen so there were grumbles in the household for itunes…) it now multiboots, XP home, SLED 11 SP1, openSUSE 11.4 Gnome 3.0, and openSUSE 12.1 M5 Gnome 3.1.4
I put it on a week or so ago and still hasn’t been rebooted into windows…sigh hanging out to see how the 2.x version of gtkpod goes with it.
No problem.
VLC Windows port is very good but I think it does not include all the codecs k-lite has. Anyway, last time I tried, those could be both installed along each other without problems and Media Player Classic is really nice.
I think one more limitation of the starter edition, not mentioned in the wiki, is that it uses only 1 core of your CPU, which disqualifies this edition from my perspective. (I’m not sure if it’s true though). I’ve got home premium version on my laptop and I doesn’t lack any features I’m using so I would consider that instead of pro if wanting to go cheaper.
Right now i actually have one problem. I try to use the database for thunderbird from windows and so far i can not get onto the database from thunderbird to be used with Linux. As far as i was reading it one need to change the location in the profile.ini.
Has someone tried that?
At the moment i am kind of lazy, but on the weekend i will do the codecs.
regarding Windows 7… I did not notice that there are codecs missing on my Home Premium. But I did not test so much on it, as I just need(ed) it for Turbotax and for “just in case”. I didn´t boot Windows 7 since… I don´t remember…
But I remember that getting Codecs was a real hassle in the past with XP. This mentioned codecs bundle seems to be a good solution. In “7” you don´t need it, I guess.
In Mac OS X they have all codecs included, at least what I saw. But I don´t know how this works for free formats like .ogg and so on. Apple trap the user even more into their iTunes stuff.
Regarding the system itself, in my opinion Windows 7 is still the same mess as XP was. Additionally they work now with “Libraries”. This was “My Documents” in the past and I did not understand this yet, but I also can not be bothered to learn this. The taskbar in 7 also has a totally different behaviour than before and I can not see how this is innovative, but hey… you can not change it, so what…
Security-wise, “7” is better, I guess. At least it comes up with messages that you need to install a virus scanner, if you didn´t do so. And you don´t need to have 2 accounts (I just have one) but when you want to install something, you need to type your password. This is also peeving sometimes, as it sometimes asks the user to do so several times, even when you want to install just one program. So you can not divide: was this now something malicious or did it belong to the program?
Updates still take ages and additionally to that it doesn´t install them right away. It installs them during shutdown and booting. So sometimes you just want to switch over to Linux and wait… and wait… and wait until this … has finished messing around. On other occasions you just want to boot it quickly to do something and then you wait… and wait… and wait until it installed the updates from last time.
When it downloads and installs all updates automatically, it then comes up with a message: “this computer will be automatically restarted in 10 minutes” and a button “postpone for 2 hours”. So if you are in the middle of a game, where you don´t have the windows screen in front of you, you don´t see this and after 10 minutes your gaming will have a hard interruption…
This is so unprofessional… unbelievable in my eyes.
Mac OS X looks a bit more polished. No mess to see. But there are also some things, where I ask myself if this really needs to be. I realised that their networkmanager is not as smart as ours in Linux. If you have wifi on, it always wants to connect to wifi networks, even when you never connected to them (because they are not yours and encrypted, which means you can not connect to them). Our networkmanager learns which networks you use and connects to them automatically, but in OS X you always need to tell it, which network you want.
And there are other things I don´t remember right now. But my conclusion is that OS X is also just another system with great stuff , but also flaws and drawbacks.
You do need it in 7 I’m sure You need it in Win7 Pro. The K-lite bundle exits for a very long time and it always was very easy to install it on Win XP, Vista and Win7.
