Multiple questions about openSuSe11.2

Hi everyone,

I’ve got some questions about openSuSe. I have used open Suse in the past (10.3 or 10.2) but then fall in love in Gentoo, but … nevermind.

I wanted to try with openSuse again, and installation process was a pain in the neck. The same after. I don’t know if it’s just only my impressions but please if you could help in my problems that would be great and I would be appreciated.

First problem I met:
I cannot install openSuse with ext4. It crashes on 85% about giving an error message that it tries to flush yast cache on the partition which is read only. After that you have to click “Ignore”, then "OK and like that for next 80 packages which left. Even when you do this installation is still broken. When entered rescue mode and tried to repair installation it said a lot of packages were missing, bootloader is not installed, and ext4 is corrupted. TO fix it press “Repair”… but… no results.

Second problem:
When reinstalled fresh system this time using ext3, everything seemed to be fine. Installation was completed, the problem is I don’t know if it’s just only my imagination but installation took something like more than hour. I would say much more and I had strange feeling that installator didn’t do anything. I had to for example move my mouse and then something started happening, disk started working and so one. Weird. That also was quite good to notice when it shut down the system… for example it hanged on shutting down HAL daemons when normally it takes 1 second, it froze there for 20, then I moved my mouse and went further. That was really odd.

Third problem:
Nvidia drivers and support resolution 1920x1080. I’ve got second screen 24’’. I wanted to install nvidia driver. I did that sucessfully. Restarted X and I still could setup only resolution like 1024x768. That’s not a big problem as I could reset this in the config… the problem is /etc/X11/xorg.conf doesn’t exist! So where is the configuration then ?
Anyway after restart, after grub, system displayed black screen, hard drive reads and writes something sometimes (that feeling with moving mouse or pressing caps lock was also here) and after 5 minutes I still see a black screen.

I used to be very happy of using openSuse and impressed what openSuse can do. But this time I feel just disappointed as I don’t know if it’s really screwed up so much or what is wrong.

My distribiution is 11.2 64bit.

Thank you for your help in advance.

Regards.

Did you verify your installation media?

Agreed, looks like a corrupted download or bad burning of the media.

Data is not corrupted and the same as DVD (checked).

I’m able to run the system now but I’ve got a big problem with screen resolution and network manger doesn’t add default gateway, I need to do it on my own.

The biggest problem though is with that screen resolution. I need to have 1920x1080 on the display. I tried to run nvidia-settings but it doesn’t recognize a resolution I tried to save xorg.conf add resolution to Screen section but it didn’t help. Found on the forum that I should use sax2, when I run it, my system goes to the console and… that’s all.

When I run sax, I use it from console. So, logout, and in the KDM (or GDM) menu, choose the Console login. Then:
su -
init 3 (press enter after the “reached” message)
sax2
Good luck

Just so we understand did you run the check media function from the DVD menu? The fact you got the errors in the first place point to corrupted installation media.

On 02/14/2010 05:06 AM, -dev-null wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> I’ve got some questions about openSuSe. I have used open Suse in the
> past (10.3 or 10.2) but then fall in love in Gentoo, but … nevermind.
>
> I wanted to try with openSuse again, and installation process was a
> pain in the neck. The same after. I don’t know if it’s just only my
> impressions but please if you could help in my problems that would be
> great and I would be appreciated.
>
> First problem I met:
> I cannot install openSuse with ext4. It crashes on 85% about giving an
> error message that it tries to flush yast cache on the partition which
> is read only. After that you have to click “Ignore”, then "OK and like
> that for next 80 packages which left. Even when you do this installation
> is still broken. When entered rescue mode and tried to repair
> installation it said a lot of packages were missing, bootloader is not
> installed, and ext4 is corrupted. TO fix it press “Repair”… but… no
> results.
>
> Second problem:
> When reinstalled fresh system this time using ext3, everything seemed
> to be fine. Installation was completed, the problem is I don’t know if
> it’s just only my imagination but installation took something like more
> than hour. I would say much more and I had strange feeling that
> installator didn’t do anything. I had to for example move my mouse and
> then something started happening, disk started working and so one.
> Weird. That also was quite good to notice when it shut down the
> system… for example it hanged on shutting down HAL daemons when
> normally it takes 1 second, it froze there for 20, then I moved my mouse
> and went further. That was really odd.
>
> Third problem:
> Nvidia drivers and support resolution 1920x1080. I’ve got second screen
> 24’’. I wanted to install nvidia driver. I did that sucessfully.
> Restarted X and I still could setup only resolution like 1024x768.
> That’s not a big problem as I could reset this in the config… the
> problem is /etc/X11/xorg.conf doesn’t exist! So where is the
> configuration then ?
> Anyway after restart, after grub, system displayed black screen, hard
> drive reads and writes something sometimes (that feeling with moving
> mouse or pressing caps lock was also here) and after 5 minutes I still
> see a black screen.
>
> I used to be very happy of using openSuse and impressed what openSuse
> can do. But this time I feel just disappointed as I don’t know if it’s
> really screwed up so much or what is wrong.
>
> My distribiution is 11.2 64bit.
>
> Thank you for your help in advance.
>
> Regards.
>
>

Sounds like the installation really didn’t go well either the
installation DVD contained errors or your PC is having errors.

I know you wrote you checked the Media before installing the 64bit Suse
but it should have been able to format the / - root partition as the
default ext4. By any chance are you trying to update your existing
Gentoo Linux to OpenSuse 11.2? That would cause permission problems on
files and storage. Always best to use a separate root partition so one
can clean install with minimal damages to /home and other partitions.

The Nvidia you stuff you should have the option of setting an initial
/etc/X11/xorg.conf. /etc/X11/xorg.conf.install or
/etc/X11/xorg.conf.md5 should be a copy of your last good 1920x1080
/etc/X11/xorg.conf. Copy it back as /etc/X11/xorg.conf.

Sax2 are problems but I believe the nvidia-settings allows you set a
non-detected displaysizes for your monitor, Sax2 doesn’t.

Beside all the comments so far, some more questions whose answers can help to isolate the origin cause:
-> Is your mouse USB or PS2?
-> What partitioning do you intend to use?
-> Do you use encrypted partitions/filesystems?

Beside the media check I would also check different settings for ACPI/APIC area. Cause if you have also issues with the gfx card it’s not uncommon from my experience.

OK answering to all questions…

No it wasn’t update from Gentoo to Suse. Clean installation on dedicated partition on the hard drive. There are no hardware problems with the computer - trust me I’m pretty sure about it.

Nvidia-settings doesn’t recognize a native resolution for my monitor, that’s why I wanted to force it by putting it into a config file. It looks like nvidia doesn’t like xorg.conf I created. The one thing made me confused. In that xorg.config.install or whatever there are no common known sections like Mouse, etc… there are just only rubbish… weird. So that’s why I presumed there is different config file which holds the rest of settings. Question is where.

Going further.
My mouse and keyboard are USB.
Partitioning:
/sda1 → windows pri 1
/sda2 → windows pri 2
/sda3 → extended
/sda4 or 5 (dont rember now which number it got) → Linux
no swap going ahead a questions.

No partition is encrypted.

-dev-null wrote:

> Nvidia-settings doesn’t recognize a native resolution for my monitor,
> that’s why I wanted to force it by putting it into a config file. It
> looks like nvidia doesn’t like xorg.conf I created. The one thing made
> me confused. In that xorg.config.install or whatever there are no common
> known sections like Mouse, etc… there are just only rubbish… weird.
> So that’s why I presumed there is different config file which holds the
> rest of settings. Question is where.

I have had this problem with both the nVidia 6100 and 6300 machines here.
Booting 11.2, I see messages about ACIP conflicts and not reading the
nVidia bus which I am assuming limits the info hal has about the chipsets.
I haven’t been able to find a startup log that echoes this info but when I
get a solid copy of what it says I’ll see if someone here can help out. It
may be the Lenovo implementation of ACIP - but that’s above my pay grade.

Meantime, I have tried both sax2 and nvidia-setup to write xorg.conf. Both
create it OK but supply and essentially empty mode section. I have been
able to get past the monitor problem by supplying the data fields I copied
from a 10.3 installation. That at least gets me a compatible 1440x900
16:10 image and seems to work properly on both 19 and 21 inch LCD monitors.

The section in question works when it reads (for this box)

Section “Modes”
Identifier “Modes[0]”
Modeline “1440x900” 126.98 1440 1536 1688 1936 900 901 904 937
EndSection

Without the modeline entry, I get essentially vesa vga modes and nothing
will change them - not nvidia-setup, not sax2.


Will Honea