Multiple grub entries? help!!

Hi, im new to opensuse so yeh haha :stuck_out_tongue:
well i just installed 11.3 and then i proceeded to try to make my wireless work (still need help on this lol :stuck_out_tongue: RTL8191SE wireless help!!)
anyways i went thru some updates and stuff i think i installed the wifi kernel or something, and also it updated my opensuse i think . now when i boot theres like 4 opensuse’s and some of them dont even work, is this normal?
thanks guys

ok these are the grup entries i have
Opensuse 11.3 2.6347.05 (default)
fail safe Opensuse 11.3 2.6347.05
Opensuse 11.3 2.6347.05 (pae)-- what does this mean?
fail safe Opensuse 11.3 2.6347.05 (pae)
Xen Opensuse 11.3 2.6347.05
Desktop opensuse 11.3 2.6347.05 (desktop)
Failsafe opensuse (desktop) 11.3 2.6347.05
Opensuse 11.3
windows 1 - i know what this is
windows 2 - the recovery boot
floppy - ?? i dont have a floppy drive
Opensuse 11.3
i know that some of these dont even work , when i boot i get random errors and stuff, does that mean i accidentally installed like 3 copies or did they just update over each other or something?
thanks guys

PAE - Physical Address Support, which is built-in to the standard kernel. I would say you added a couple of kernels to be loaded you do not need. As for openUSE, all you needed is:

Desktop opensuse 11.3 2.6347.05 (desktop) ← This is the one I would use
Failsafe opensuse (desktop) 11.3 2.6347.05
Opensuse 11.3 2.6347.05 (default)
fail safe Opensuse 11.3 2.6347.05

For Windows, you only need then:

windows 1 - i know what this is <- Only need this one for Windows.

You can run YaST / System / Bootloder and delete the floppy and extra Windows Entry and rearrange the entries. You would normally go into YaST / Software Managerment and remove kernels you did not need, keeping Default and Desktop and what ever other files they require (I have kernel-default,kernel-default-devel, kernel-desktop,kernel-desktop-devel, kernel-debug, kernel-debug-devel, kernel-devel, kernel-docs, kernel-source, kernel-syms for a total of 10). I will have to check into your Wireless. I read that it is included in openSUSE 11.3, but broken and that you should download the latest one from Realtek, but I did not find a link.

Thank You,

oh ok,
what does that mean tho, would those other kernels make my computer slower? should i remove them or just the grub? cos i know that the XEN one doesnt work and the opensuse default one doesnt work either :expressionless:

darkyboy oh ok,
what does that mean tho, would those other kernels make my computer slower? should i remove them or just the grub? cos i know that the XEN one doesnt work and the opensuse default one doesnt work either :expressionless:
It is one of those things were if you don’t know what they are for (The other Kernels), you most likely do not need them. I know what they are for and I do not have them loaded either. I would run YaST / Software Manager, search on kernel and delete all loaded kernels (you are looking at files that start with the word kernel only, leave the others alone) and get yourself down to the 10 files I mentioned. Print out the list if need be. The other kernels already don’t work as noted by you and are not required. You normally boot Kernel-Desktop and keep the failsafe just in case. Kernel-Default is for servers, which should work for you and kernel-Desktop is optimized for most standard openSUSE users like us.

Thank You,

oh right i see, just one more quick question,
when im on just Opensuse 11.3 im able to use my wifi connection, however when i go on opensuse 11.3 Desktop suddenly my wifi decides to not work, it wont even detect anything any idea why this is?
thanks

Because you installed the kernel driver for kernel-default not kernel-desktop.

I can tell you there is no harm using default but if you have more than 3GB RAM and are 32 bit it will only show and use 3GB.
The PAE kernel is to address that, so if you had say 6GB RAM and were 32 Bit, you could use kernel-pae.
But kernel-desktop can do the same as PAE.

Also, trying to uninstall the ones you don’t want will be a nightmare for a novice.

oh i c, thanks caf, so using kernel desktop will be just as effecient as using kernel pae?
also how do i install it now to kernel desktop?
sorry , pretty new at this haha :open_mouth:

kernel-desktop is actually better than PAE, but we’ll not get in to that now.

kernel-desktop is installed already, I think you are asking how to install the wireless support?

Can you open a terminal and post the result of:

rpm -qa | grep kmp

and

zypper lr -d

vmware-guest-kmp-default-2010.03.20_k2.6.34.0_12-3.14.i586
compat-wireless-kmp-desktop-2.6.36_k2.6.34.7_0.5-13.1.i586
rtl8192se-kmp-desktop-0018.1025.2010_k2.6.34.7_0.5-3.3.i586
compat-wireless-kmp-default-2.6.36_k2.6.34.7_0.5-13.1.i586
ndiswrapper-kmp-default-1.55_k2.6.34.0_12-7.1.i586
preload-kmp-default-1.1_k2.6.34.0_12-18.2.i586
ndiswrapper-kmp-desktop-1.55_k2.6.34.7_0.5-36.8.i586
rtl8192se-kmp-default-0018.1025.2010_k2.6.34.7_0.5-3.3.i586
virtualbox-ose-guest-kmp-default-3.2.6_k2.6.34.0_12-1.4.i586
preload-kmp-desktop-1.1_k2.6.34.7_0.5-19.1.8.i586

and

| Alias | Name | Enabled | Refresh | Priority | Type | URI | Service

–±----------------±----------------------±--------±--------±---------±-------±------------------------------------------------------------------------±-------
1 | driver:wireless | driver:wireless | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | Index of /repositories/driver:/wireless/11.3-update |
2 | repo-debug | openSUSE-11.3-Debug | No | Yes | 99 | NONE | Index of /debug/distribution/11.3/repo/oss |
3 | repo-non-oss | openSUSE-11.3-Non-Oss | No | Yes | 99 | yast2 | Index of /distribution/11.3/repo/non-oss |
4 | repo-oss | openSUSE-11.3-Oss | No | Yes | 99 | yast2 | Index of /distribution/11.3/repo/oss |
5 | repo-source | openSUSE-11.3-Source | No | Yes | 99 | NONE | Index of /source/distribution/11.3/repo/oss |
6 | repo-update | openSUSE-11.3-Update | No | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | Index of /update/11.3 |

so yeah thats about it, i appreciate the help man

OK Yes. It tells me you have just about everything under the sun.

I don’t have time right now to run you thru it. In the mean time from a kernel-default boot and then from kernel-desktop, get me the result of this:

/sbin/lspci -nnk

In each case paste the results in here to remain forever: and a link to it
SUSE Paste

Someone else may be able to help until I return.