On 2013-05-04 13:46, Knurpht wrote:
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> I have KDE, GNOME, XFCE, LXDE and RazorQt installed. All operational and
> functional.
Me too, all using the same home and user. I have kde 3, kde 4, gnome,
xfce, and others I have forgotten about. No conflicts.
The only conflict might be running two desktops under the same user at
the same time. Some features, like sound, might have problems: who owns
the sound device?
> openSUSE is designed to be able to do this, so if it doesn’t work like
> expected, get the cause and report a bug.
Yes, it has worked for decades.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 12.1 x86_64 “Asparagus” at Telcontar)
As I mentioned, I do this all the time (effectively as a single seat multiseat configuration). When I change the volume in KDE, I watch it change in Gnome. Similarly if I change the volume in Gnome, I watch it change in KDE. There are no conflicts – the volume is the same in both desktops.
What do you mean two DE’s at the same time? All I know is that a logout is required to change between them, Idk if more than on can be used at the same time.
> What do you mean two DE’s at the same time? All I know is that a logout
> is required to change between them, Idk if more than on can be used at
> the same time.
The traditional method was to login as well in a text terminal, there type:
startx kde -- :1
and presto, you get a second session under that user. You switch from
one to the other via ctrl-alt-f7 or ctrl-alt-f8. And you could open a
third one on ctrl-alt-f9
The other method would be to go the logout menu, there choose the entry
to switch to another user - not all desktops have it - and you get a new
session. However, you can go from one to the other with the same
keypresses as above. Both the old session and the new one are active, on
different terminals.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 12.1 x86_64 “Asparagus” at Telcontar)
If you have xfce installed with kde and you are booting into kde you can still have a feel of xfce inside kde.
My kde desktop has this feel by enabling the xfce panel. I have the kde4 panel at the bottom of the monitor
and the xfce4 panel at the top of the monitor.
Is there a way to make standard xfce or blackbox right-click menu work in KDE plasma session?
I have achieved this in razorQT, by replacing razor desktop with blackbox, can’t do it with KDE.
Hi,
With xfce in kde the right click will not work if you run xfdesktop because it is underneath plasma.
If you kill plasma then you can have the right click, it just safe to use the xfce panel if you want to
have the feel a bit of xfce under kde.
You can have several logins at a time, GUI or CLI ones. On the so called logical consoles (switching from one the the other using Ctrl-Alt-Fn, the “real” console being at Ctrl-Alt-F1, normaly 2 - 6 being other CLI consoles, 7 normaly being thr (first) GUI session where you “normaly” work).
From KDE you can open a new GUI session from the logout/reboot/shutdown button, take the Change User item.
From a locked KDE session here is a similar possibility from the locked screen. This is that you can walk away to the toilet (of course locking your session) and another can walk in and start a session for him/herself without doing anything bad to your session and in the meantime keeping your chair warm (and drink your coffee ).
I guess that other DEs have similar possibilities to use this X feature.
And you can login there with the same username, but another DE if you like so.
Also remote login in a GUI s possible. With a different or the same user, with a different or tha same DE.
Oh, why do people always forget that Unix/Linux is a multi-user system? It would explain so many things if they thought about this.
Thanks, I’ve come to similar conclusion, but I thought there may be some other way.
If I remove plasma from KDE session, there is blackbox, but no panel and no widgets.
There probably is a way to add a mouse action to choose standard or custom menu, something like a plugin.
Or even desktop layout, to display another DE from within plasma (something like Folder View)
Unfortunately, I’ve no experience with such plugins, it’s just an idea.
I don’t know how that blackbox menu looks like, but you can change the right-click action in plasma:
Right-Click on the desktop (or click on the cashew in the upper-right corner) and select “Settings for Standard Desktop”. Under “Mouse Actions” you can configure each mouse button. If you remove the action for pressing the right mouse button by clicking on the red ‘-’ sign, maybe blackbox will work? (can’t try here, as I don’t have that installed…)
If you just want to have a list of all applications on right-click, you can set that right-click action to “KMenu”…
This doesn’t help unfortunately. While razor has the option to replace window manager with something else, it doesn’t work with plasma.
I mean, you can replace the window manager, but you can’t have the panel or the widgets.
Output in KDE :
blackbox: another window manager is already running on display ':0'
blackbox: no managable screens found, exiting...
Box menu will not show unless plasma-desktop is killed and window manager replaced.
Removing the mouse action does nothing if plasma is running, it simply ignores the mouse click.
Having a plasmoid that allows the box to run on top of plasma desktop would be great, I’m just not qualified to build something like that.
I had hoped that plasma hands the right-click through to the WM then.
But apparently that’s not possible.
Well, black-box is some kind of application menu as it seems. So you could try to set plasma’s right-click action to “K-Menu”, which would give you KDE’s application menu. Not exactly the same, but maybe you’d like it better than the standard context menu…
Oh and btw. plasma is not the window manager, kwin is. Plasma just manages the desktop, panel and widgets.
No. blackbox is a window manager, just like openbox and xfwm.
I never said plasma is a window manager, I said that blackbox will work only if the WM is replaced and plasma killed, check above.
If I just replace kwin with blackbox, menu will not show on top of plasma. However, in razorQT I can just turn off razor desktop and the box works:
Yes, I know. But we were talking about the blackbox menu from the beginning. That’s what this discussion is about, isn’t it? I just forgot to add the “menu” in that sentence, it was a typo…
I never said plasma is a window manager,
I never said you did. But you seemed to confuse the two, sorry if I misunderstood. I just wanted to clear that up.
I said that blackbox will work only if the WM is replaced and plasma killed, check above.
And I said this doesn’t seem to be possible as plasma doesn’t route through the mouseclick to the windowmanager. I had hoped it would, when I suggested to remove the rightclick action.
And since plasma manages the desktop, panel and plasmoids, you can’t have them without plasma running, obviously.
But what **is **possible, is to run plasma applets in a window. Since all the elements of the panel also are just plasmoids (the panel is just a container), you can use them without plasma-desktop running.
You can run a plasmoid in a window by calling e.g.
).
I just forgot to add the “menu” in that sentence, it was a typo…