I just installed Suse 13.1 and I tried to play some old MP3s and it says I am missing a plugin or codec or something?
Have a look at this:
http://forums.opensuse.org/showthread.php/407184-Multi-media-and-Restricted-Format-Installation-Guide
Oh sorry I already got it. I fixed it with this link
I dont know exactly what I did, I just started installing blindly and POOP it worked. In most distros this is done automatically or its a simple one click affair. Only in Suse does it appear to be brain surgery.
no brain surgery involved - the very first thread in the Multimedia section of this forum is a sticky that explains how to get full multimedia support in “one click”.
I’d recommend still having a look at it because if you were just clicking things blindly you are probably gonna run into problems
https://forums.opensuse.org/showthread.php/452884-Multimedia-in-One-Click
The item you are referring to is the very first thing I did. And, sir, it is not straightforward. If it is so simple why does that post just ramble on and on and on if all you need is one click? If it is just one click then that post should just say “click this” over. But oh no, you gotta make it hard, I mean after all this is linux, you can be smart without a college degree, just play video games and hack XBOX, oh you are smart.
I mean watch a video on it? download photos? are you crazy?
as for me, after i did “one-click-install”, i did not get the codecs for AAC+. it took me some time to figure out how to get aac support on gstreamer infrastructure.
but the simple way is to install vlc, vlc-codecs and smplayer. but you should activate the packman repository in before.
there is another way, using XBMC, but is a bit CPU hungry,
Well, I’m not sure what you were reading but the link I provided only requires two steps.
Step one says; choose your opensuse version here.
Step two is to then either click on the big yellow KDE button or the big grey Gnome button.
This in 99% of cases will give you full multimedia support - especially something as simple as mp3 playback.
I don’t think aac+ comes as native on any operating system (including Windows) and requires a bit of hoop jumping no matter the os.
On Tue, 01 Apr 2014 06:06:02 +0000, linux trojan wrote:
> The item you are referring to is the very first thing I did. And, sir,
> it is not straightforward. If it is so simple why does that post just
> ramble on and on and on if all you need is one click? If it is just one
> click then that post should just say “click this” over. But oh no, you
> gotta make it hard, I mean after all this is linux, you can be smart
> without a college degree, just play video games and hack XBOX, oh you
> are smart.
Guys, let’s not make this personal. If the procedure in question isn’t
straightforward enough, feel free to make suggestions about what’s not
clear so it can be updated and clarified.
Jim
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On 2014-04-01 17:40, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Tue, 01 Apr 2014 06:06:02 +0000, linux trojan wrote:
> Guys, let’s not make this personal. If the procedure in question isn’t
> straightforward enough, feel free to make suggestions about what’s not
> clear so it can be updated and clarified.
In an nutshell, the “Sticky Thread: Multimedia in One Click” is seven
pages long, enough to send any novice running for his life 
You have to point people to a short page with direct “one click” links
to use, and direct instructions. Short and fast, not to a discussion
about it.
The “opensuse-community.org” is an attempt to that, since ages, but the
page with manual instructions is lost. There are no explanations given
if you want them. The pages like:
opensuse-community.org/Restricted_formats/12.3
have been removed, so the only method available is the one click. People
like me that prefer to do it manually with zypper can not read about it.
(which means, by the way, that many links referred to on the sticky, are
now broken).
The official and legal info is this other link, by the way:
http://en.opensuse.org/Restricted_formats
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” at Telcontar)
When I posted this reply, I didn’t realize it was so complicated. Sorry about that. Anyway, I usually just “Google” the phrase “openSuse xx.x restricted” to find it. (Substituting the desired version number for “xx.x”). Again, my apologies to the OP.
On Tue, 01 Apr 2014 18:18:17 +0000, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> On 2014-04-01 17:40, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Tue, 01 Apr 2014 06:06:02 +0000, linux trojan wrote:
>
>
>> Guys, let’s not make this personal. If the procedure in question isn’t
>> straightforward enough, feel free to make suggestions about what’s not
>> clear so it can be updated and clarified.
>
> In an nutshell, the “Sticky Thread: Multimedia in One Click” is seven
> pages long, enough to send any novice running for his life
>
> You have to point people to a short page with direct “one click” links
> to use, and direct instructions. Short and fast, not to a discussion
> about it.
OK, so suggestions for specific content changes would be welcome. It’s
not really enough to say “here’s what’s wrong with it” for those who have
some experience with this - suggest some fixes as well.
Stickies do need to be maintained, and if there are ways to streamline
the information in them, that’s welcome.
Jim
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openSUSE Forums Administrator
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Robin: you have captured my sentiments in a nutshell. I appreciate your comments.
As you all can tell, I am frustrated with Suse because I do think it is a great distro but the distro is not taking advantate of weaknesses in other distros like Mint and Ubuntu. Those two distros were great because they automatically installed all this windows codec stuff. You install it, boom you are rocking and rolling. Mint and Ubuntu also automatically installed the kernel source so you can install VMware with not even thinking about it. But oh not Suse, you have to search the internet and find the exact name of the source.
Right now Debian based distros are flubbing up because they changed Gnome. Lots of people wanna go back to Gnome classic but its not working too good. I tried to install Mint and Ubuntu recently and the cd didnt work: no matter which computer I used (desktop or laptop) nor which OS (windows or linux). It just sat there and stared at me. So now is the time for rpm based systems to move to the top. But that wont happen so long as they make linux so darn hard to work with. I mean come on, all the extra repositories you have to add? all this stuff with having to go to another website to add extra software http:software.suse.org what ever. All the nonsense you gotta go through just to hear an MP3, its silly. Yet, I still believe that Suse has got a good product and I am proud to use it.
Furthermore, I have not used any profanity on this site and I have made no personal attacks on anyone. I am a bit hot headed and I do get emotional about stuff but thats about it. Sometimes I get frustrated if I cant get my point across. So, if the admins are gonna start nit picking about this and that, and micromanaging the flow of the discussion in a manner that no other forum does, then you can just delete/block my account coz I dont need the headaches. It doesnt matter to me. There are distros galore out there and one can be installed as easily as the other - well, Mint and Ubuntu not included.
On Tue, 01 Apr 2014 22:56:01 +0000, linux trojan wrote:
> Robin: you have captured my sentiments in a nutshell. I appreciate
> your comments.
>
> As you all can tell, I am frustrated with Suse because I do think it is
> a great distro but the distro is not taking advantate of weaknesses in
> other distros like Mint and Ubuntu. Those two distros were great
> because they automatically installed all this windows codec stuff. You
> install it, boom you are rocking and rolling. Mint and Ubuntu also
> automatically installed the kernel source so you can install VMware with
> not even thinking about it. But oh not Suse, you have to search the
> internet and find the exact name of the source.
Or load up “yast2 -i” and search for “kernel source”.
> Right now Debian based distros are flubbing up because they changed
> Gnome. Lots of people wanna go back to Gnome classic but its not
> working too good. I tried to install Mint and Ubuntu recently and the
> cd didnt work: no matter which computer I used (desktop or laptop) nor
> which OS (windows or linux). It just sat there and stared at me. So
> now is the time for rpm based systems to move to the top. But that wont
> happen so long as they make linux so darn hard to work with. I mean
> come on, all the extra repositories you have to add? all this stuff
> with having to go to another website to add extra software
> http:software.suse.org what ever. All the nonsense you gotta go through
> just to hear an MP3, its silly. Yet, I still believe that Suse has got
> a good product and I am proud to use it.
And we’re glad that you’ve chosen to use it.
There are reasons why, for example, openSUSE does not include codecs that
are patent-encumbered. The Restricted_Formats page on the wiki is pretty
thorough about explaining why openSUSE is different. Yes, other
distributions “make it easier” - other distributions also aren’t
sponsored by a company with “deep pockets” to be sued by patent trolls.
SUSE decided to mitigate this risk. Yes, it makes things less
convenient. There’s a reason for it - it’s not because we want to make
life more difficult for users. Users need to be aware of what the
problems with software patents are and how they affect us all. This is
one of the ways in which they affect us.
Don’t like it? You can switch to a distribution that doesn’t care about
the issue, or you can use your awareness of the issue to donate to causes
that promote software patent reform so these issues don’t exist. You can
elect to use only formats that aren’t patent-encumbered.
Or you can purchase the Fluendo codecs and be legal (assuming you live in
a country where those patents are in effect).
There are lots of choices.
I’ve been using openSUSE since 2003 myself, and in general, “all the
extra repositiories you have to add” is something I’ve never
encountered. I have six, typcially - OSS, non-oss, update, packman, my
own OBS repository that I use for packaging stuff I build myself, and a
chrome repository.
All of those except my OBS repo are set up either by the app (Chrome, for
example), or at install time. I tweak them to point to a local copy of
the official repos.
> Furthermore, I have not used any profanity on this site and I have made
> no personal attacks on anyone. I am a bit hot headed and I do get
> emotional about stuff but thats about it. Sometimes I get frustrated if
> I cant get my point across. So, if the admins are gonna start nit
> picking about this and that, and micromanaging the flow of the
> discussion in a manner that no other forum does, then you can just
> delete/block my account coz I dont need the headaches. It doesnt matter
> to me. There are distros galore out there and one can be installed as
> easily as the other - well, Mint and Ubuntu not included.
All I’m asking is that we act respectfully towards each other. We like
to maintain a friendly community, and getting sarcastic and angry when
people are trying to help doesn’t help. Neither does “threatening” to
switch to another distribution if one doesn’t get one’s way.
It was a proactive request, not directed at any individual, but intended
to de-escalate what appears to be an escalating discussion.
If that’s not what’s happening, then you have nothing to worry about.
This isn’t micromanagement, it’s community management - and maintaining a
friendly community is important to us.
You may wish to become familiar with the forum terms & conditions. The
link is in my signature.
Jim
Jim Henderson
openSUSE Forums Administrator
Forum Use Terms & Conditions at http://tinyurl.com/openSUSE-T-C
Your information regarding copyright is very informative. I forgot how petty M$ has been about this, they still sell DOS on the open market, its not free.
Further, I am going to be proactive and delete my account myself. This place makes my hair stand on end, like worms crawling all over my skin. I joined the Linux Revolution coz I wanted to get Big Brother off my back. Linux is open source, no spying eyes can hide there. But it looks like I jumped out of the pan and into the fire.
Adios.
On Tue 01 Apr 2014 11:23:05 PM CDT, Jim Henderson wrote:
Or you can purchase the Fluendo codecs and be legal (assuming you live
in a country where those patents are in effect).
Hi
The gstreamer fluendo codec fully licensed for mp3 has always been
shipped with openSUSE non-oss…
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On 2014-04-01 23:48, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Tue, 01 Apr 2014 18:18:17 +0000, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>> In an nutshell, the “Sticky Thread: Multimedia in One Click” is seven
>> pages long, enough to send any novice running for his life
>>
>> You have to point people to a short page with direct “one click” links
>> to use, and direct instructions. Short and fast, not to a discussion
>> about it.
>
> OK, so suggestions for specific content changes would be welcome. It’s
> not really enough to say “here’s what’s wrong with it” for those who have
> some experience with this - suggest some fixes as well.
>
> Stickies do need to be maintained, and if there are ways to streamline
> the information in them, that’s welcome.
Sorry, I thought what I suggested was clear enough
I’ll try again: you simply can not point people wanting multimedia to a
long forum sticky. You have to point them to a short page that explains
quickly what exactly they need to do to get multimedia working, in not
more than a single screen, and then give links to further info, in case
they wish to read it.
But in fact, as I understand, the information can not be hosted on an
openSUSE site.
There is a page at openSUSE (en.opensuse.org/Restricted_formats), which
basically explains the legal problem, and then /hints/ at another
external site that explains (or rather explained) how to bypass the
legal hurdles, namely “opensuse-community.org”.
So you can point people to both places. One for the explanation, and the
other for “click here and be done”. Ok, and links to all the extra
informational links and discussions you like, like the forum thread
In fact, the “opensuse-community.org” site (please have a look at it
now, it has changed), which previously had several inside links with
pages and pages of information, has been reduced to a single page, with
just two links: one kde 1-click, one gnome 1-click. That’s all,
everything else has been removed (so people having neither desktop, have
problems).
So perhaps we would need another site with that extra information, or
ask the “opensuse-community.org” site to read it again. I don’t know if
a forum (hosted by opensuse) can provide that information, outside of a
thread, written perhaps by staff, for legal reasons.
–
Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” at Telcontar)
On Tue, 01 Apr 2014 23:36:37 +0000, malcolmlewis wrote:
> Hi The gstreamer fluendo codec fully licensed for mp3 has always been
> shipped with openSUSE non-oss…
Thanks for clarifying that - I wasn’t aware of that.
Jim
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On Tue, 01 Apr 2014 23:46:02 +0000, linux trojan wrote:
> Your information regarding copyright is very informative. I forgot how
> petty M$ has been about this, they still sell DOS on the open market,
> its not free.
Microsoft doesn’t own the patents in question. MP3 is owned by someone
else.
>
> Further, I am going to be proactive and delete my account myself. This
> place makes my hair stand on end, like worms crawling all over my skin.
> I joined the Linux Revolution coz I wanted to get Big Brother off my
> back. Linux is open source, no spying eyes can hide there. But it
> looks like I jumped out of the pan and into the fire.
>
> Adios.
We wish you well, then. Don’t know why you feel this way - it’s never
the OSS community’s intention to make people feel uncomfortable. But for
these forums, as I said, we do want to keep things friendly - we have a /
lot/ of different cultures that come here, and misunderstandings are easy
in a written venue. It’s that much harder to maintain a civil atmosphere
when all you have is words on the page, so when it’s apparent that
frustrations and anger are being expressed, we prefer to de-escalate the
situation and focus on the technical issues our users are running into
and help them resolve them.
It’s far more productive to do so without apparent yelling and
screaming. We’re all users, and we’re all here to help each other out.
Anyways, good luck.
Jim
Jim Henderson
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On Wed, 02 Apr 2014 01:23:07 +0000, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> I’ll try again: you simply can not point people wanting multimedia to a
> long forum sticky.
I’m open to suggestions as to how to handle it, then. The openSUSE
installer makes setting up Packman pretty easy as it is, so I’m honestly
baffled that it’s perceived as being so complicated to install the codecs
you want if you are either willing to take the risk as an end-user or
live in a country where their use is legal.
Jim
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