Missing files

I have tried installing opensuse 11.1 using various protocols such as HTTP, NFS and FTP and non were working. I kept getting the “no repository” error so I checked the repo at directory on Index of /distribution/11.1/repo/oss and found that branding file was on my system but had a size of 0 compared to the branding file on on the repo site which was 2.9M at Index of /distribution/11.1/repo/oss/boot/i386

So I copied the file over and FTP started to work. As it was copying the files other, I received several other error messages stating that there were files missing one after one, after one, etc.

My questions are: Why are these files missing if I downloaded the DVD version and has anyone else had these problems?

I just wanted to add that not all files are missing. Not even the majority of the files. Maybe 10-15 or so.

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I installed 11.1 x86_64 last week and didn’t have any problems like
this, but I just downloaded and installed via DVD without pointing to
any other repositories. Keep in mind that if you download the DVD and
use it only for booting but then choose to install from a network-based
install source you probably won’t use the DVD much (if at all) after
your initial bootup so having the files on the DVD won’t help you. If
you went through the trouble of downloading the DVD then I wouldn’t
bother with a network install source… just complete the install and
then point to an update server for updates int he future. The benefit
of a network install source is that you don’t need to download the full
4.5-ish GB or burn a full DVD at the penalty of speed during the
installation. If you already downloaded all of the DVD then you are
taking the speed penalty needlessly.

Good luck.

rayeason wrote:
> I have tried installing opensuse 11.1 using various protocols such as
> HTTP, NFS and FTP and non were working. I kept getting the “no
> repository” error so I checked the repo at directory on ‘Index of
> /distribution/11.1/repo/oss’
> (http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1/repo/oss/) and found
> that branding file was on my system but had a size of 0 compared to the
> branding file on on the repo site which was 2.9M at ‘Index of
> /distribution/11.1/repo/oss/boot/i386’
> (http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1/repo/oss/boot/i386/)
>
> So I copied the file over and FTP started to work. As it was copying
> the files other, I received several other error messages stating that
> there were files missing one after one, after one, etc.
>
> My questions are: Why are these files missing if I downloaded the DVD
> version and has anyone else had these problems?
>
> I just wanted to add that not all files are missing. Not even the
> majority of the files. Maybe 10-15 or so.
>
>
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I should also mention that the only time I’ve seen files “missing” from
a DVD inconsistently (one install works for fileA but fails on fileB,
other install files on fileA but works on fileB, etc.) I was able to
resolve the issue by re-burning at the slowest speed possible.
Something about burners and media these days is causing all kinds of fun
like this for myself and others in this forum and others like it.

Good luck.

ab@novell.com wrote:
> I installed 11.1 x86_64 last week and didn’t have any problems like
> this, but I just downloaded and installed via DVD without pointing to
> any other repositories. Keep in mind that if you download the DVD and
> use it only for booting but then choose to install from a network-based
> install source you probably won’t use the DVD much (if at all) after
> your initial bootup so having the files on the DVD won’t help you. If
> you went through the trouble of downloading the DVD then I wouldn’t
> bother with a network install source… just complete the install and
> then point to an update server for updates int he future. The benefit
> of a network install source is that you don’t need to download the full
> 4.5-ish GB or burn a full DVD at the penalty of speed during the
> installation. If you already downloaded all of the DVD then you are
> taking the speed penalty needlessly.
>
> Good luck.
>
>
>
>
>
> rayeason wrote:
>> I have tried installing opensuse 11.1 using various protocols such as
>> HTTP, NFS and FTP and non were working. I kept getting the “no
>> repository” error so I checked the repo at directory on ‘Index of
>> /distribution/11.1/repo/oss’
>> (http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1/repo/oss/) and found
>> that branding file was on my system but had a size of 0 compared to the
>> branding file on on the repo site which was 2.9M at ‘Index of
>> /distribution/11.1/repo/oss/boot/i386’
>> (http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1/repo/oss/boot/i386/)
>
>> So I copied the file over and FTP started to work. As it was copying
>> the files other, I received several other error messages stating that
>> there were files missing one after one, after one, etc.
>
>> My questions are: Why are these files missing if I downloaded the DVD
>> version and has anyone else had these problems?
>
>> I just wanted to add that not all files are missing. Not even the
>> majority of the files. Maybe 10-15 or so.
>
>
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I installed 11.1 x86_64 last week and didn’t have any problems like
this, but I just downloaded and installed via DVD without pointing to
any other repositories. Keep in mind that if you download the DVD and
use it only for booting but then choose to install from a network-based
install source you probably won’t use the DVD much (if at all) after
your initial bootup so having the files on the DVD won’t help you. If
you went through the trouble of downloading the DVD then I wouldn’t
bother with a network install source… just complete the install and
then point to an update server for updates int he future. The benefit
of a network install source is that you don’t need to download the full
4.5-ish GB or burn a full DVD at the penalty of speed during the
installation. If you already downloaded all of the DVD then you are
taking the speed penalty needlessly.

Good luck.

rayeason wrote:
> I have tried installing opensuse 11.1 using various protocols such as
> HTTP, NFS and FTP and non were working. I kept getting the “no
> repository” error so I checked the repo at directory on ‘Index of
> /distribution/11.1/repo/oss’
> (Index of /distribution/11.1/repo/oss) and found
> that branding file was on my system but had a size of 0 compared to the
> branding file on on the repo site which was 2.9M at ‘Index of
> /distribution/11.1/repo/oss/boot/i386’
> (Index of /distribution/11.1/repo/oss/boot/i386)
>
> So I copied the file over and FTP started to work. As it was copying
> the files other, I received several other error messages stating that
> there were files missing one after one, after one, etc.
>
> My questions are: Why are these files missing if I downloaded the DVD
> version and has anyone else had these problems?
>
> I just wanted to add that not all files are missing. Not even the
> majority of the files. Maybe 10-15 or so.
>
>
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The reason that I downloaded the DVD was so that I could install it over a network onto computers that did not have DVD drives on them and used older, slower CD-rom drives. In some cases, I have needed to reinstall the OS for various reasons. So downloading via the web would not be the optimal choice for me.

I was led to believe that you could download and boot off of the network install iso and then install from a local network such as HTTP or FTP. I could not get the install to work with a local HTTP webserver for some reason but was successful with FTP but there were serveral files that were not on the DVD (over 20 or so). Is this normal? If I had booted off of the DVD would I not have had the same problems when I performed a install this way?

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I should also mention that the only time I’ve seen files “missing” from
a DVD inconsistently (one install works for fileA but fails on fileB,
other install files on fileA but works on fileB, etc.) I was able to
resolve the issue by re-burning at the slowest speed possible.
Something about burners and media these days is causing all kinds of fun
like this for myself and others in this forum and others like it.

Good luck.

ab@novell.com wrote:
> I installed 11.1 x86_64 last week and didn’t have any problems like
> this, but I just downloaded and installed via DVD without pointing to
> any other repositories. Keep in mind that if you download the DVD and
> use it only for booting but then choose to install from a network-based
> install source you probably won’t use the DVD much (if at all) after
> your initial bootup so having the files on the DVD won’t help you. If
> you went through the trouble of downloading the DVD then I wouldn’t
> bother with a network install source… just complete the install and
> then point to an update server for updates int he future. The benefit
> of a network install source is that you don’t need to download the full
> 4.5-ish GB or burn a full DVD at the penalty of speed during the
> installation. If you already downloaded all of the DVD then you are
> taking the speed penalty needlessly.
>
> Good luck.
>
>
>
>
>
> rayeason wrote:
>> I have tried installing opensuse 11.1 using various protocols such as
>> HTTP, NFS and FTP and non were working. I kept getting the “no
>> repository” error so I checked the repo at directory on ‘Index of
>> /distribution/11.1/repo/oss’
>> (Index of /distribution/11.1/repo/oss) and found
>> that branding file was on my system but had a size of 0 compared to the
>> branding file on on the repo site which was 2.9M at ‘Index of
>> /distribution/11.1/repo/oss/boot/i386’
>> (Index of /distribution/11.1/repo/oss/boot/i386)
>
>> So I copied the file over and FTP started to work. As it was copying
>> the files other, I received several other error messages stating that
>> there were files missing one after one, after one, etc.
>
>> My questions are: Why are these files missing if I downloaded the DVD
>> version and has anyone else had these problems?
>
>> I just wanted to add that not all files are missing. Not even the
>> majority of the files. Maybe 10-15 or so.
>
>
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This was not the case. I did not burn the iso to a optical disc. I used daemon tools to mount the iso and then extracted the files over to a folder on a network drive.

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Ah… well this makes a lot more sense. While I haven’t verified it
myself there may be some part of officially creating an install source
(typically done via Yast, but not required I don’t suppose) that could
lead to some kind of problem like this. When you go through Yast (on an
existing server) and create an official Install Source (it’s an option
Yast… trivial to do… just takes time to copy files mostly) there
are some metadata written along with all of the installation files which
could be causing part of your problem. If these files are not present
the installation may still go through but it could lead to errors like
those you are seeing. The installation source
(DVD/http/nfs/ftp/whatever) has information about itself that is
probably specific to the type of install it is, like that a DVD has
everything in the world, while a CD needs to change CDs (and to certain
CDs for certain packages), and that http works over a network and should
have everything and may even had add-ons. Without all of these little
bits the installer is missing some of what it expects.

As a note once you create a valid installation source you can copy the
entire thing to another box (http server to http server, for example)
and go from there without using Yast, so perhaps create an install
source and then copy it over to wherever you installed from last time
and then try again.

Good luck.

rayeason wrote:
> ab@novell.com;1917881 Wrote:
> I installed 11.1 x86_64 last week and didn’t have any problems like
> this, but I just downloaded and installed via DVD without pointing to
> any other repositories. Keep in mind that if you download the DVD and
> use it only for booting but then choose to install from a network-based
> install source you probably won’t use the DVD much (if at all) after
> your initial bootup so having the files on the DVD won’t help you. If
> you went through the trouble of downloading the DVD then I wouldn’t
> bother with a network install source… just complete the install and
> then point to an update server for updates int he future. The benefit
> of a network install source is that you don’t need to download the full
> 4.5-ish GB or burn a full DVD at the penalty of speed during the
> installation. If you already downloaded all of the DVD then you are
> taking the speed penalty needlessly.
>
> Good luck.
>
>
>
>
>
> rayeason wrote:
>>>> I have tried installing opensuse 11.1 using various protocols such as
>>>> HTTP, NFS and FTP and non were working. I kept getting the “no
>>>> repository” error so I checked the repo at directory on ‘Index of
>>>> /distribution/11.1/repo/oss’
>>>> (‘Index of /distribution/11.1/repo/oss’
> (http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1/repo/oss/)) and found
>>>> that branding file was on my system but had a size of 0 compared to
> the
>>>> branding file on on the repo site which was 2.9M at ‘Index of
>>>> /distribution/11.1/repo/oss/boot/i386’
>>>> (‘Index of /distribution/11.1/repo/oss/boot/i386’
> (http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1/repo/oss/boot/i386/))
>>>> So I copied the file over and FTP started to work. As it was copying
>>>> the files other, I received several other error messages stating that
>>>> there were files missing one after one, after one, etc.
>>>>
>>>> My questions are: Why are these files missing if I downloaded the DVD
>>>> version and has anyone else had these problems?
>>>>
>>>> I just wanted to add that not all files are missing. Not even the
>>>> majority of the files. Maybe 10-15 or so.
>>>>
>>>>
> The reason that I downloaded the DVD was so that I could install it
> over a network onto computers that did not have DVD drives on them and
> used older, slower CD-rom drives. In some cases, I have needed to
> reinstall the OS for various reasons. So downloading via the web would
> not be the optimal choice for me.

> I was led to believe that you could download and boot off of the
> network install iso and then install from a local network such as HTTP
> or FTP. I could not get the install to work with a local HTTP webserver
> for some reason but was successful with FTP but there were serveral
> files that were not on the DVD (over 20 or so). Is this normal? If I had
> booted off of the DVD would I not have had the same problems when I
> performed a install this way?

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Well I did get it to install over FTP. The install kept telling me there was a package missing and I simply downloaded the package and copied it over to the install directory. This worked just fine. It seems like the repositories have all the software/packages needed whereas the DVD does/did not.